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FPS Issues

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  • ElinLove wrote: »
    N7Y7KYHXKW wrote: »
    ElinLove wrote: »
    N7Y7KYHXKW wrote: »
    Welcome to Tera, there's no clear problem or solution the game is simply poorly optimised. Machines built a decade ago can sometimes run the game perfectly fine without issues while current gen top of the line machines can sometimes struggle in area's.

    Short of simply lowering your graphics settings, searching for some ini file tweaks on the internet or using 3rd party programs, you're out of luck, nobody can really help you. The majority of people that play Tera get some sort of FPS issues somewhere, the game is practically infamous for it.

    That really sucks to hear considering that i already play at minimum graphics to manage to get 40-60 fps on clear areas but less than 25 on boss battles or towns

    Hang on, that is WAY too low for minimum graphics, regardless of our craptastic optimization. I mean you should be with that 40-60 FPS everywhere (save for crowded as heck areas) in MAX graphics. That's what I get sorry, ain't reposting my old gear like always do.

    Check RAM usage. I would bet that you've got some NICE 3GB+ usage on TERA alone. This being the case, it's the classic memory leak issue we've been having since like forever. This happens with some random bugs on controllers/HIDs like some special mice software (say, drivers for extra keys), or more than 1 controller plugged in.

    IF you have a controller plugged in, disconnect it and re-connect it later. It should solve this, or if it doesn't, try the disconnect, relog, and then check FPS, if OK then re-connect if you need it.

    I don't really understand what you mean but i don't have any controllers connected to my pc

    I see, check on Task Manager, how much RAM your game is using. It shouldn't be much (any) above 2GB. If it is, then report here cause that's a memory leak and we may have solutions.

    Also as said above: try running the game in Fullscreen only mode, not Windowed Fullscreen. SOME people have serious FPS issues on the Windowed Fullscreen (the one you can alt+tab out of the game to the desktop normally), but I'm one that has no issues, so we gotta check everything, it's never a set case.

    Last but not least, please inform us of any anti-virus or updates state. There has been a known issue a year or more ago of Windows Defender re-checking TERA over and over and such, which hogged CPU like mad killing FPS. If I'm not wrong, this issue popped up a while ago again.

    I believe i finally found the issue which was that the game was only using 2 cores instead of all of them but im unsure as to how to make tera use all of the cores instead of two
  • BreetizmBreetizm ✭✭✭
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    Same, no matter where I go my FPS is always ridiculous. Can run everything else fine on 4k, but Tera has issues :(
  • LapomkoLapomko ✭✭✭
    edited April 2018
    N7Y7KYHXKW wrote: »
    Lapomko wrote: »
    Have the same cpu overclocked 5.0. Don't worry it's not you but the game because my fps is also horrendous. No matter what you do you will still get bad fps even with ini edit + unethical tools.

    What was the increase in FPS when you overclocked it to that speed?

    The fps boost is negligible because the turbo boost of 8700k is already high like 4.4/4.6.

    With the game using 2 cores is not an issue but an old engine limitation. BHS refuses to update their render engine and has no clue how to even start so we will never get it. Their new game uses old engine too...

    It's even worse now due to awakening flashy skill particles. Fps drops all over the place.
  • N7Y7KYHXKW wrote: »
    I'm Not sure why but i have some Noticeable fps issues in tera even though i have a decent computer
    i7-8700K Hexa Core
    GTX 1070 8GB
    16GB Ram DDR4 2400Mhz Memory

    Maybe its not enough but im not sure, Can anyone help?

    Look at my specs

    Core 2 quad 9550 (running at 3.0 GHz)
    GTX 960 4gb
    6gb ram 1066 MHZ

    My graphics in game are set to 5/6, and I got 60~80 FPS in open world, 25-30 FPS in velika, highwatch, dungeons and Bg's. So this game will run like a potato in low end pcs or some i7 8700k overclocked to 5.0 GHz.
    I can run smoothly Blade and soul and black desert in a fair quality without any FPS problems. Dont worry, there is no problem in any specs of ur pc, its the game.
  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    N7Y7KYHXKW wrote: »
    ElinLove wrote: »
    N7Y7KYHXKW wrote: »
    ElinLove wrote: »
    N7Y7KYHXKW wrote: »
    Welcome to Tera, there's no clear problem or solution the game is simply poorly optimised. Machines built a decade ago can sometimes run the game perfectly fine without issues while current gen top of the line machines can sometimes struggle in area's.

    Short of simply lowering your graphics settings, searching for some ini file tweaks on the internet or using 3rd party programs, you're out of luck, nobody can really help you. The majority of people that play Tera get some sort of FPS issues somewhere, the game is practically infamous for it.

    That really sucks to hear considering that i already play at minimum graphics to manage to get 40-60 fps on clear areas but less than 25 on boss battles or towns

    Hang on, that is WAY too low for minimum graphics, regardless of our craptastic optimization. I mean you should be with that 40-60 FPS everywhere (save for crowded as heck areas) in MAX graphics. That's what I get sorry, ain't reposting my old gear like always do.

    Check RAM usage. I would bet that you've got some NICE 3GB+ usage on TERA alone. This being the case, it's the classic memory leak issue we've been having since like forever. This happens with some random bugs on controllers/HIDs like some special mice software (say, drivers for extra keys), or more than 1 controller plugged in.

    IF you have a controller plugged in, disconnect it and re-connect it later. It should solve this, or if it doesn't, try the disconnect, relog, and then check FPS, if OK then re-connect if you need it.

    I don't really understand what you mean but i don't have any controllers connected to my pc

    I see, check on Task Manager, how much RAM your game is using. It shouldn't be much (any) above 2GB. If it is, then report here cause that's a memory leak and we may have solutions.

    Also as said above: try running the game in Fullscreen only mode, not Windowed Fullscreen. SOME people have serious FPS issues on the Windowed Fullscreen (the one you can alt+tab out of the game to the desktop normally), but I'm one that has no issues, so we gotta check everything, it's never a set case.

    Last but not least, please inform us of any anti-virus or updates state. There has been a known issue a year or more ago of Windows Defender re-checking TERA over and over and such, which hogged CPU like mad killing FPS. If I'm not wrong, this issue popped up a while ago again.

    I believe i finally found the issue which was that the game was only using 2 cores instead of all of them but im unsure as to how to make tera use all of the cores instead of two

    Oh I see, sadly the issue is with a file called tera.exe, which was coded crappily more than half a decade ago into dual core only optimization.

    Yes, I do mean the game itself is the issue. It's always locked at 2 cores only. Mind you, I run it on a Core i5 3570k stock clock (turbo to 3.7GHz on 2 cores), a GTX 550 Ti stock clock, and 8 GB of DDR3 RAM. That's it. And I do get the 60 FPS in open world, ~24+ in Velika, and slideshow on CS/FWC gate open moment, then it goes back to it's 20~30ish FPS on the rest of the combat on bosses or anything.
    You can see above (both me and like, everybody else) how it's not a matter of lacking raw power at all.

    Thus, we really need to know if you're into a memory leak issue, or if you may have an anti-virus or similar program scanning your files and hogging CPU, even if it should in practice have many cores free, you never know what kind of crap up can happen with 2 bad codes at the same time.
  • SolarPhantomSolarPhantom ✭✭
    edited April 2018
    Also the game is 32 bit. No matter how much ram you have it can only use a max of 3-4gb before it crashes.... So damn irritating.
  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    Also the game is 32 bit. No matter how much ram you have it can only use a max of 3-4gb before it crashes.... So damn irritating.

    AND in my experience: if it's reaching that value, you're already screwed. It never reached even 2GB here
  • Well i will say that after allowing tera to use more than 2 cores i can finally run it at max graphics with 60-100 fps and while tera does consume alot i wouldn't know if it would be due to the anti virus or something else
  • LiverneckLiverneck ✭✭
    edited April 2018
    FPS really does chug if your in an area with lots of unique player characters. Around 20+ will begin to kill your framerates badly. Some towns are clunky as well, even Cutthroat shows a mild cpu bottleneck even when theres no players, and its partly because theres a bunch of npcs and lots of trees and unique details everywhere not very well balanced to handle.

    All your fps problems are on the cpu end because this game is awful and can only use 2-3 threads, and uses them very inefficiently. Even if you could clock your cpu to 6000mhz you would notice 5-10fps increase at best in the worst of times. Remember back in the Nexus days back in 2012 my fps would drop to 3-4 fps, and i would overclock my normal i7 2600k from 4.6ghz to 5.1ghz and even that had no effect on fps, never kept it at 5.1 because of the high voltage requirements but it was a good test to see how useless 1000mhz is when you go from 4000 to 5000... in TERA this really gives you very little when your bottlenecking fps into the single digits.

    One simple tip i can give is turn off shadows ingame, the graphics don't change much and you don't even have to restart the game to do this... and you can turn them back on when your in an area with less people. Making this a very simple toggle when you hit bad 20-30fps, turning off ingame shadows will boost you easily to over 50-60fps usually.

    You'd think such a simple shadow effect wouldn't be such a cpu hog but it is - leaving shadows on has basically no effect on your graphics card but will add a ton more bottleneck on the limited 2-3 threads this game can use making essential frames into a slideshow. I wish they would optimize the game to put all graphic lighting and shadows completely onto the GPU... its pretty terrible as it is, and the shadows are fairly fixed, its not like we have a day night cycle, its a pretty simple lighting system which should run better but doesn't.
  • Pretty sure this games got some hardcore memory leaks
  • N7Y7KYHXKW wrote: »
    Well i will say that after allowing tera to use more than 2 cores i can finally run it at max graphics with 60-100 fps and while tera does consume alot i wouldn't know if it would be due to the anti virus or something else

    Wanna post what you did?
  • MajesticPeterMajesticPeter ✭✭
    edited April 2018
    I see these FPS posts every now and then and people always suggest upgrading. WRONG. TERA is very badly optimized and the devs don't care so you gotta do tweaks to fix these FPS drops. Also it appears there is a memory leak so if you apply tweaks and your game FPS starts dropping after playing a few hours, restart the game. Check Task Manager to make sure it closes properly.

    For tweaks what I did was
    - on Windows 10, if you go to Task Manager, Details tab and find TERA.exe (not the launcher), right click it and set Affinity to only 2 cores. Basically only core 0 and core 1 should be checked.
    - in Task Manager, Details tab again, right click TERA.exe "Open file location", go 1 folder back so you're in TERA\Client then proceed to S1GAME\Config and open S1Engine.ini
    find MaxParticleResize and set it to 12
    This controls how many vertices are displayed for skills. 0 is infinite, 1 and 2 are not allowed because minimum vertices is 3 to form a tri and 4 to form a quad. I keep mine at 12. If you're having trouble seeing ground effects, you can increase this number but I suggest you use something that's multiplicative with 3 or 4. 12 is a fairly good number since you can achieve it with either 3 or 4.

    I also downloaded a file that messes with boss HP bars but the biggest noticeable difference was with the tweaks I mentioned above.
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