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A discussion about Server Merges continued

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  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    And people would try to find ways to game the system to try and get more space and stuff.
  • P2WP2W ✭✭✭
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    P2W wrote: »
    mommomcy wrote: »
    Cross server LFG? Err... I don't want full page in lfg of p**** jokes/memes/wtb emp/"#randomnametag is cuttest eRin" Merge servers is fine tho. Only for 1 reason it was done before.
    CornishRex wrote: »
    But some people care more about their basic three word names than an active lfg, pls understand, it's not possible :(

    But honestly, they should just introduce cross server lfg to please everyone. Merging dead servers won't solve much, usually it just creates another dead server.

    Cross server LFG is a pretty good idea but it probably require too much work from BHS and we all know efficient and quickly they get things done.

    I think most people object to server merges is either 1) they want to keep their character names, and 2) they have too many characters and would need to delete some if a server merge happens.

    But this can be easily resolved by removing the cap on character limit and allow duplicate character names. Allowing duplicate names also prevent people from hoarding names too.

    Another issue is "what will happen with all the cosmetics that can't fit in your bank tabs, wardrobe, inventory and pet banks from your character's left after the merge?".

    Some people have mex characters with lots of cosmetics that won't fit if server merge come to be a thing.

    I think they gave away free bank slots the last server merge but even if they don't, it's still cheaper than a server transfer.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    P2W wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »

    Another issue is "what will happen with all the cosmetics that can't fit in your bank tabs, wardrobe, inventory and pet banks from your character's left after the merge?".

    Some people have mex characters with lots of cosmetics that won't fit if server merge come to be a thing.

    I think they gave away free bank slots the last server merge but even if they don't, it's still cheaper than a server transfer.

    I think you didn't get what I said. Tried to read it again.

    If you have 30 characters on the servers that are about to merge, and you have more cosmetics that you can fit on the maximum bank tabs storage limit, maximum wardrove tabs storage limit, maximum inventory from the max characters allowed in that new server inventory slots and maximum pet tabs storage limit, then what will be done?

    There are people that uses most of their characters as extra storage space.

    You really are not looking into it at all.
  • P2WP2W ✭✭✭
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    P2W wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »

    Another issue is "what will happen with all the cosmetics that can't fit in your bank tabs, wardrobe, inventory and pet banks from your character's left after the merge?".

    Some people have mex characters with lots of cosmetics that won't fit if server merge come to be a thing.

    I think they gave away free bank slots the last server merge but even if they don't, it's still cheaper than a server transfer.

    I think you didn't get what I said. Tried to read it again.

    If you have 30 characters on the servers that are about to merge, and you have more cosmetics that you can fit on the maximum bank tabs storage limit, maximum wardrove tabs storage limit, maximum inventory from the max characters allowed in that new server inventory slots and maximum pet tabs storage limit, then what will be done?

    There are people that uses most of their characters as extra storage space.

    You really are not looking into it at all.

    Character storage limit is not affected at all. You still get max 104 slots per character.
    For regular bank storage, most items are stackable so I doubt most people can fill up the max 8 pages but they can easily increase that limit.
    For wardrobe, the current limit is 4 pages but most people only have 1 page. If they were to merge all 5 servers to 1, they can increase the limit to 20 pages.

    They have increase the bank limit from 4 pages - 8 pages so this is a really easy thing for them to do.
  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is an issue that at least in the forums will have strong support for both sides of the argument. this is one of the reasons why I can assume what I said before. They make decisions on mergers based on other kinds of data, and not because a player or a group of players ask through here. A petition to merge servers would need to have such an overwhelming support from people in all of the affected servers, and even then, EME would still have to go to the data to see if it's feasible to do.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2018
    P2W wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    P2W wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »

    Another issue is "what will happen with all the cosmetics that can't fit in your bank tabs, wardrobe, inventory and pet banks from your character's left after the merge?".

    Some people have mex characters with lots of cosmetics that won't fit if server merge come to be a thing.

    I think they gave away free bank slots the last server merge but even if they don't, it's still cheaper than a server transfer.

    I think you didn't get what I said. Tried to read it again.

    If you have 30 characters on the servers that are about to merge, and you have more cosmetics that you can fit on the maximum bank tabs storage limit, maximum wardrove tabs storage limit, maximum inventory from the max characters allowed in that new server inventory slots and maximum pet tabs storage limit, then what will be done?

    There are people that uses most of their characters as extra storage space.

    You really are not looking into it at all.

    Character storage limit is not affected at all. You still get max 104 slots per character.
    For regular bank storage, most items are stackable so I doubt most people can fill up the max 8 pages but they can easily increase that limit.
    For wardrobe, the current limit is 4 pages but most people only have 1 page. If they were to merge all 5 servers to 1, they can increase the limit to 20 pages.

    They have increase the bank limit from 4 pages - 8 pages so this is a really easy thing for them to do.

    You clearly dont understand the issue.

    Before selling some cosmetics a half year ago I had 8 bank tabs full, 4 wardrobe tabs full and 12 character inventory maxed full. I don't even play actively the broker, now think about the issue players who play the broker will have.
  • P2WP2W ✭✭✭
    edited April 2018
    Those that play the broker will find a way to do it. The can easily create 100 dummy accounts to store everything they want.

    You brought up the issue about storage and I gave you a possible solution. Increasing the max number of bank and wardrobe tabs will solve this storage problem.
  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    P2W wrote: »
    Those that play the broker will find a way to do it. The can easily create 100 dummy accounts to store everything they want.

    You brought up the issue about storage and I gave you a possible solution. Increasing the max number of bank and wardrobe tabs will solve this storage problem.

    *Not like En Masse can just increase max counts of any of those at their will.
  • P2WP2W ✭✭✭
    edited April 2018
    ElinLove wrote: »
    P2W wrote: »
    Those that play the broker will find a way to do it. The can easily create 100 dummy accounts to store everything they want.

    You brought up the issue about storage and I gave you a possible solution. Increasing the max number of bank and wardrobe tabs will solve this storage problem.

    *Not like En Masse can just increase max counts of any of those at their will.

    It's only a suggestion. Compared to creating a cross server lfg, this is probably easier for BHS to implement. They literally only have to change 3 numbers in the coding and they can merge all the servers to 1.

    Max Characters Slots: 20 -> 100
    Max Bank Pages : 8 -> 40
    Max Wardrobe Pages: 4 -> 20
  • The amount of time u needed to wait for that to happen..
    U might as well just start anew in whichever server u want and have a gud time.
  • edited April 2018
    P2W wrote: »
    They literally only have to change 3 numbers in the coding and they can merge all the servers to 1.
    The UI for Bank and Wardrobe would also need to be updated to better handle this total number of tabs. In fact, you wouldn't be able to use a tabbed interface at all anymore as it'd be extremely unwieldy.

    But besides all that, the server software can't necessarily handle that many simultaneous players when a new class is introduced or an event is going on, or necessarily that much potential data loading for banks and wardrobe. Even if they did some merger, I definitely don't think they'd go from 5 to 1; this game wasn't designed for a "mega-server."
  • P2WP2W ✭✭✭
    edited April 2018
    P2W wrote: »
    They literally only have to change 3 numbers in the coding and they can merge all the servers to 1.
    The UI for Bank and Wardrobe would also need to be updated to better handle this total number of tabs. In fact, you wouldn't be able to use a tabbed interface at all anymore as it'd be extremely unwieldy.

    But besides all that, the server software can't necessarily handle that many simultaneous players when a new class is introduced or an event is going on, or necessarily that much potential data loading for banks and wardrobe. Even if they did some merger, I definitely don't think they'd go from 5 to 1; this game wasn't designed for a "mega-server."

    They could use drop down menus instead of tabs for banks and wardrobe. But lets be real, most of the players will have trouble filling up the 8 banks and 4 wardrobe pages. I don't think they would merge all the servers to 1 but 5 servers is way too many. They could merge it to 2 servers. One for PVE and one for PVP. Or since open world PVP is dead anyway, make one server for the east coast and one for west coast players.
  • edited April 2018
    P2W wrote: »
    Or since open world PVP is dead anyway, make one server for the east coast and one for west coast players.
    FWIW, they can't do that because all the servers have to be in the same location for cross-server instances (instance/battleground matching).

    And well...
    P2W wrote: »
    They could use drop down menus instead of tabs for banks and wardrobe.

    My point was mostly that it's not as easy as just changing some numbers. If it means BHS has to do something, good luck...
  • P2WP2W ✭✭✭
    edited April 2018
    P2W wrote: »
    Or since open world PVP is dead anyway, make one server for the east coast and one for west coast players.
    FWIW, they can't do that because all the servers have to be in the same location for cross-server instances (instance/battleground matching).

    And well...
    P2W wrote: »
    They could use drop down menus instead of tabs for banks and wardrobe.

    My point was mostly that it's not as easy as just changing some numbers. If it means BHS has to do something, good luck...

    I wasn't talking about the servers physical location. I meant 2 PVE servers: "East" and "West", so people can play with others in the same timezone. Changing a few numbers and a minor UI changes is definitely easier than to create a cross server LFG, if that is even possible to do that.
  • edited April 2018
    P2W wrote: »
    P2W wrote: »
    Or since open world PVP is dead anyway, make one server for the east coast and one for west coast players.
    FWIW, they can't do that because all the servers have to be in the same location for cross-server instances (instance/battleground matching).

    And well...
    P2W wrote: »
    They could use drop down menus instead of tabs for banks and wardrobe.

    My point was mostly that it's not as easy as just changing some numbers. If it means BHS has to do something, good luck...

    I wasn't talking about the servers physical location. I meant 2 PVE servers: "East" and "West", so people can play with others in the same timezone.

    Oh, okay. Well, you can, but I think it'd be misleading to have it labelled that way, since people will think it relates to the server location and have an impact on their ping times. But regardless, it's neither here nor there.

    P2W wrote: »
    Changing a few numbers and a minor UI changes is definitely easier than to create a cross server LFG, if that is even possible to do that.
    It is at least possible to do cross-server LFG, since it's really not all that different from how instance/battleground-matching already actually works. But anyway, we'll see if they do it, and how quickly...
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