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Not sure that this gives me any hope. The Q and A about the second class classes says they are already balanced. What does that mean, suck it up butter cup?
It would be easy for them to put out an official statement, say on the Tera website in the rotating carousel addressing when second class classes will get awakened, if ever, rather than a sentence buried in patch notes.
Even giving the benefit of doubt that us second class classes will get awakened if lucky in December 2018 that is a long time to play a marginalized class.
Especially when they awakened brawler out of all the other OG classes like archer and sorc, I pretty sure that they aren't just going to leave the other classes high and dry, it would make zero sense.
For starters, documents have confirmed that they do plan on awakening the second wave of classes. Secondly, the description of the buff non awakening classes got should also indicate that (in that it says you are waiting to unlock your potential).
Secondly, this isn’t as much of a class being left behind scenario as you are making it out to be. Minus berserkers, who are pulling stupid damage with unleash (being needed by 25% next patch), most of the classes are doing fairly similarly in terms of DPS. You can check parsed runs on moongourd for confirmation.
Waiting sucks, but let’s not make things out to be worse than they actually are just so we can justify our frustrations, yeah?
They're balanced with a different mechanism, aka the damage passive, to keep them relevant until they get Awakened.
If you're asking for EmE to release an official statement saying classes will be Awakened soonTM, I'm going to ask you why? EmE barely says anything about upcoming content and even then they also give misinformation so what would even be the point?
The non-awakened classes are still perfectly viable, this is basically just a balance patch and every balance patch favours a certain class or set of classes to make people who like to cry about not being FoTM reroll to the FoTM class, which makes them spend money to do so, or at least a hefty amount of in-game gold which moves around the economy. If you're struggling to keep up then that may be an issue with your playstyle, if you're expecting to be the best of the best in damage then clearly you haven't rerolled to FoTM which was the point in the first place.
Honestly the only class in a really bad spot right now is Ninja since they weren't given any buffs in the patch (CoS doesn't count) and are heavily reliant on talents, in KTera they can match awakened classes the same as everyone else but everywhere else it isn't possible since talents are a major contributor to the game yet BHS likes to ignore that.
Are you new on Tera?
You can check on Moongourd right now that on every 5 man dungeon almost all (if not all) top 10 classes are awakened classes!
Let me show you something:
https://imgur.com/a/2nhiEKz
Plz ignore that "class average BS" on Moongourd cuz that's mostly old data from old patches, it'll take a while to reflect the changes made on awakening patch.
If you pay attention on top parses from moongourd you'll notice that the gap between top zerk vs top ninja on some 5 man dungeons is a insanely game breaking 50%!
Trust me, ppl will think twice before invinting a random ninja on the new instances.
As a player from Vm4 patch (and trust me, they ALWAYS did this bs on every patch!) i know VERY well how BHS work: They'll do EVERYTHING to force us to reroll every 6 months, they'll either make our class horrible (i.e: gunner on VM8 patch or slayer from VM7 till Propulsion passive ) or they'll release a broken af class (anything since reaper)/awaken something till it becomes broken (late 2016 sorc revamp, Zerk awakening).
They do this cuz new content is expensive, so the cheap way is to trash our efforts (like they always do with new gears) and force us to reroll and grind everything from scratch, like double dragons, costumes, BIS gear, etc.
And players will do this only once or twice till they realize that they're like idiots playing a money grab game...
That's only one of the reasons why it's so hard for Tera to retain players long term, cuz players are not IDIOTS, they'll not wait 6~12 months till the class that they love become relevant again, neither they'll reroll every 6 months..
You just can't ignore a stupid 50% damage gap between dps classes in any game, that's just flawed game design, period.
And you can mark my words: Next awakening will be even more broken, cuz BHS want all theses endgame Zerks to reroll again
In terms of DPS, sustained DPS tends to be more reliable than burst DPS, so I’m looking at RKE last boss for example. So let’s look at the top DPS pulled by each class:
1. Berserker (4.5mil)
2. Warrior (4.0mil)
3. Gunner (3.8mil)
4. Slayer (3.8mil)
5. Archer (3.5mil)
6. Reaper (3.5m)
7. Sorcerer (3.4mil)
8. Valkyrie (3.4mil)
9. Ninja (3.2mil)
What does this mean? There is a gap between top and bottom DPS, but if ignore zerker and ninja, the rest of the pack are not too far apart, within a 15% difference. This is not gamebreaking by any stretch of the imagination. Furthermore, we have to keep in mind how the data is skewed towards the awakened classes because they are played so much more, and thus more people pushing those classes to the limit.
I agree; BHS will do whatever it can to make you reroll. But wanting to reroll for ego/higher dps reasons doesn’t mean that only the rerolled classes are viable. If you look at the spread of the top DPS from each class for the past couple of patches, and do a standard deviation calculation, the gap has overall decreased (again, if we ignore zerker, who are getting a big nerf next patch, and ninjas, who are shafted because of the lack of a talent system). This is how I arrived at the conclusion that the difference between awakened and non-awakened classes, while there, is not significant enough to cause an issue.
After that patch of course, we'll have even more skewed class balance.
I can already imagine the complaints of "Omg Sorc/Valk/Reaper are super broken! They deal like 1m+ more than any other class!" once awakening batch 2 is out.
This is the way Tera has always handled big class reworks and balancing. If you look through Tera history every class has been bottom of the barrel at some point. Short of newer classes most of the older classes have had some sort of revamp or rework since release too, so it's not like there hasn't been patches previous with class-specific content. I think at this point Reaper is the class that has gone the longest without any major revamp/rework.
Do you happen to have a reference for this? Because as far as I'm aware, the nerf for Zerker was in the KTera Jan 21st patch notes with a 25% overall nerf to Unleash skills, but we already have all the balancing patches up to and including the KTera Feb 28th balance patch, which is after the Zerker nerf, and there hasn't been any major balancing for the class since then.
Unless there was an announced but not yet implemented nerf to Zerker that I'm unaware of?
This...we already have the 25% nerf...if we didn't...Zerks would probably be doing (or at least very close to) doing 5mil/s on RKE
Actually it is the case. I honestly haven't seen a patch this balanced before. It is inevitable that everyone will not do the same damage (it wouldn't make any sense actually, and there will always be that class that does broken amounts of damage. It is not perfect, but I really hope Ktera releases the other class awakenings soon.
We do want to see Ninja buffed back to respectable levels though, so much power from Ninjas are cut from the non Korean regions because of talents (Ninja is top tier in Ktera), and I think BHS doesn't see that. But knowing BHS, I guess you know the answer.
> And in the future, we will most likely be seeing the whole apex quest dropped in favor of the usual "you just got level 65, here's your apex".
I’d actually like to get to experience the new content...if the second class classes ever get awakened.
I suppose what I said won't happen when the second wave of apex classes comes. I'd suppose this will happen far into the future, the same way other things happened. Back then, when you hit max level, you just got an achievement and that was that. All the gear you needed to grind it yourself. Now you get geared to the brim. Back then, you had to visit trainer NPCs every few levels to be able to level up your skills. Now those are handed to you. And if I remember, you also had to buy ALL glyphs, and then go to a specific dungeon to pick the rest. While now you still need to work for the more powerful glyphs, the vast majority are given to you.
So I suppose apex is another future candidate for this simplification.