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Any rumours/info on the next class?

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  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    Uwawawa wrote: »
    Sorry to break in, but with the discussion about whether BHS should release another class or not aside, I would like people to stop discussing in a way that may end up as false rumor.

    Speculations are okay and acceptable, but people have been claiming several things lately which have not been confirmed or have not provided official sources related to them. The other day I saw some argument on Global what the new class should be, whether if this was for joke or not, false rumor is false. Let's not spread unconfirmed information without any concrete evidence of such announcement (which atm, we only know "We're working on new class".
    Q. We are curious about udate plans for the upcoming Summer Season.
    There are successive updates planned, but we will reveal 2 things among them.

    FIrst, there will be renewals on existing classes, so for sure there will be changes in skills. Also, we have not decided when, but a new class is also planned to be added.

    Second, we will be providing a whole new PvP and PvE contents for the end-game players. As for PvP, it will be a large-scale environment where beginners or non-geared players can also participate.

    Also, the PvE contents will have high difficulty to stimulate challenging elements.

    As for the discussion of whether BHS should release new class or not, I don't wish it to be released either, at least, not in the current state of TERA. Despite all the QQ's posted on KTERA, majority of quality players have came to an agreement that most things are in balance except for

    1. Ninja's DPS is too high
    2. Warrior Tank difficulty is over 9000
    3. What is a Zerk Tank
    4. Priests vs Mystic disparity, yes, this is still an issue in KTERA at least.

    I hardly agree with any of the points KTERA players make currently if I'm completely honest.

    1.-
    Ninja DPS over there is in the average of 2.2m~ There's only a few instance of they reaching 2.7m DPS and that's basically after stacking every buff currently available and on Duo Healer+Warrior Setting, which means 5 End Debuffs on the boss. The average is important here, because every class after the buffs is averaging 2m DPS. So complaining or Saying "Ninja DPS" is too high is kinda stupid. This is so far the most balanced TERA has ever been in terms of average DPS among all classes.

    As a Small funny Note: There's an instance of a Brawler doing almost 3.2m on Imperator. Which is around 500k more DPS than the best Ninja has reached there.

    2-
    Warrior Tanking is not hard at all, after all the massive and unnecessary aggro generation buffs Warrior Tanking is the easiest of any class. Now, is it as rewarding? No, it's not. But that's another theme completely.

    3.-
    This is mostly a personal opinion, and I'll sound like an [filtered]. But no one really cares about Zerker tanks. I know literally just one person who is like "Well, it was somewhat fun" Every other Zerker I've ever known from when that buff happened to this point has been "Whatever the [filtered] for? I didn't rolled Zerk to Tank" So there's that. Zerkers were never supposed to tank. It was a badly bandaid patch when the game was so dead that tanks were like unicorns, and they were still rare as unicorns after it.

    4.-
    Priest vs Mystic disparity is actually not a problem, is mostly Priest mains crying about not being the best anymore at everything. Yes, Mystics are better in PVE than Priest (this has been true forever with experienced groups). And Priests are better than Mystics in PVP. So what's the problem? It seems really well balanced to me tbh. People still take solo Priest to clear PVE content, people still take solo Mystics, and people still take double healers so the disparity means jack s.hit to these. But, if we talk about PVP, people prefer a million times a priest over a Mystic. So if they want to talk about disparity then there's an enormous and clearly disparity in PVP between both. But they hardly mention that. (Probably because LOL KTERA PVP)

    I'll say it again. TERA, at least in KTERA has never been more balanced than this.
    Now, I wish they could release Talents so NA could be on the same ground. Because things are not balanced at all over here thanks to that.

    Anyway, excited to see new info about that "Hardcore" Raid, hopefully is actually hard and not just a new Dreadspire where 90% of the bosses are almost a joke.

    compare a ninja's dps to all the other dps classes minus talents, without talents here i have seen ninja's get close to that 2m mark in end game dungeons, when can my warrior ever hit that? even with the incoming buffs and nerfs to ninjas it will be impossible to do. ninjas need more nerfs or other classes need more buffs, and for people who say but its a cloth class, with that much mobility and iframes you should never be getting hit in the first place.
  • UwawawaUwawawa
    edited June 2016
    @sanj66

    I think you should re-read that. Because I clearly stated that TERA, in Korea, is the most balanced it has ever been, whereas, here in NA and basically every other region, is a different story.

    And as a note: Warriors were never supposed to bring big DPS. Originally and for years they were the Good/Great DPS that made everyone else deal more damage. I've no idea at what point warriors players started to not only want to be the best solo class, but also the best 1vs1 class, the best tank, and the best/Top DPS. Like, come on. This is the problem with hybrid classes in most MMOs, if they are not the best/top at everything people call them garbage and cry for buffs.

    It's actually going to be funny to see the forums fill with "nerf warriors PVP" because they pass from Amazing at 1vs1 and be able solo every class in 10secs to Godlike and solo anyone in 3secs after the massive dmg buffs they are getting soon.
  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    Uwawawa wrote: »
    @sanj66

    I think you should re-read that. Because I clearly stated that TERA, in Korea, is the most balanced it has ever been, whereas, here in NA and basically every other region, is a different story.

    And as a note: Warriors were never supposed to bring big DPS. Originally and for years they were the Good/Great DPS that made everyone else deal more damage. I've no idea at what point warriors players started to not only want to be the best solo class, but also the best 1vs1 class, the best tank, and the best/Top DPS. Like, come on. This is the problem with hybrid classes in most MMOs, if they are not the best/top at everything people call them garbage and cry for buffs.

    It's actually going to be funny to see the forums fill with "nerf warriors PVP" because they pass from Amazing at 1vs1 and be able solo every class in 10secs to Godlike and solo anyone in 3secs after the massive dmg buffs they are getting soon.

    even in ktera, none of the other DPS classes can measure up to the ninja, it is still hugely imbalanced. high survivability (you can get off like what possibly 7 or more consecutive iframes by cycling them right), high mobility and insane dps. mean while the older classes in ktera yea they are balanced in relation to each other but not with the new classes. closes would probably be slayers and zerks but thats 2 of many classes. warriors are currently not good/great dps they are bottom tier, with a debuff that gets overwritten by every other debuff now and traverse cut animation is just too long to even be worth it. warriors are almost an unwanted class they are bottom tier dps, their 8% debuff gets overwritten and its faster to either just use another dps or even maybe duo heals for the debuff from both healers. they also got the damage nerfed back in the cb10 patch not to long after to bring them back to the exact same level they were in pvp, the buffs are pve only. also note 1v1, which 1v1 bg is there to make 1v1 profitable or worth doing? you got mass pvp bgs only outside of lets say 3's and brawler/gunner/ninja even sorcs and archers mass aoe skills are god there, especially ninja and their bladestorm that you cant dodge out of if you happen to get hit by it and in mass pvp like fwc/cs/gi/alliance its almost unavoidable. thought not saying they need any pvp buffs, they have their uses and to me are where they should be in pvp however pve is my beef with warriors.
  • AulonAulon ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    We are not playing the same game as them, we do not have their talent system nor do we have their class balances they have. Comparing K-Tera with NA-Tera does not work. That is an issue in which won't be addressed, we won't get the balances they have. Like it or not comparing the two no longer works.

    Warrior Tanking is fine atm as long as you are not doing SShm which it does become a struggle mainly due to the burn phases and Warrior tanks Dam being so below par compared to the other options.
  • Dydric wrote: »
    warlock and a samurai

    warlock plz...
  • UwawawaUwawawa
    edited June 2016
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Uwawawa wrote: »
    @sanj66

    I think you should re-read that. Because I clearly stated that TERA, in Korea, is the most balanced it has ever been, whereas, here in NA and basically every other region, is a different story.

    And as a note: Warriors were never supposed to bring big DPS. Originally and for years they were the Good/Great DPS that made everyone else deal more damage. I've no idea at what point warriors players started to not only want to be the best solo class, but also the best 1vs1 class, the best tank, and the best/Top DPS. Like, come on. This is the problem with hybrid classes in most MMOs, if they are not the best/top at everything people call them garbage and cry for buffs.

    It's actually going to be funny to see the forums fill with "nerf warriors PVP" because they pass from Amazing at 1vs1 and be able solo every class in 10secs to Godlike and solo anyone in 3secs after the massive dmg buffs they are getting soon.

    even in ktera, none of the other DPS classes can measure up to the ninja, it is still hugely imbalanced.

    I guess doing only on average 200k-300k less DPS than ninjas is considered highly unbalanced /s

    Not to be rude, but you clearly have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. So let's drop it here. Tho, I do encourage you to go see the DPS logs of every class over at Korea. It's easy and enlightening.

  • AulonAulon ✭✭✭✭
    Why would we go over logs in a version of the game that has a talent system we won't be getting to compare?

    Talking about the now, here in NA Tera, me personally don't care about K TERA and what logs look like since we do not nor will not have their talent system.
  • They'll make a tanking/dps/support/nuking/healer/jack of all trades/all in one/magic/physical/summoning/class to replace all classes.
  • UwawawaUwawawa
    edited June 2016
    @Aulon
    Dude, if you want to get or offer input into a ongoing conversation, at least read all of it instead of just blindly replayig to the latest one.
  • DivineRemnantDivineRemnant ✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    So can I trade my leather armor for cloth and gain double damage please?

    Okay, re-roll to ninja. Also, apparently the new class is female-locked and is not a healer, according to Idi0ticGenius, in case anyone didn't see it yet.


  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    Uwawawa wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Uwawawa wrote: »
    @sanj66

    I think you should re-read that. Because I clearly stated that TERA, in Korea, is the most balanced it has ever been, whereas, here in NA and basically every other region, is a different story.

    And as a note: Warriors were never supposed to bring big DPS. Originally and for years they were the Good/Great DPS that made everyone else deal more damage. I've no idea at what point warriors players started to not only want to be the best solo class, but also the best 1vs1 class, the best tank, and the best/Top DPS. Like, come on. This is the problem with hybrid classes in most MMOs, if they are not the best/top at everything people call them garbage and cry for buffs.

    It's actually going to be funny to see the forums fill with "nerf warriors PVP" because they pass from Amazing at 1vs1 and be able solo every class in 10secs to Godlike and solo anyone in 3secs after the massive dmg buffs they are getting soon.

    even in ktera, none of the other DPS classes can measure up to the ninja, it is still hugely imbalanced.

    I guess doing only on average 200k-300k less DPS than ninjas is considered highly unbalanced /s

    Not to be rude, but you clearly have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. So let's drop it here. Tho, I do encourage you to go see the DPS logs of every class over at Korea. It's easy and enlightening.

    200-300k dps is alot, especially having basically no downsides while doing that much more, like i said top dps, probably most consecutive iframes as a warrior would need to generate resolve while ninjas have low cd mp based iframes, high mobility and survivability and good to great mp management due to low mp requirements and high mp pool and a secondary skill resource in chi. think of all of that and then say they are balanced or the best balancing it has thus far, that is no where near balanced and the gap opens even more in na.
  • JinxyKat39JinxyKat39 ✭✭✭
    We just got a new class, i'm not even looking this far ahead. I do wish, though, that they would get off this gender locked crap. It just gets boring seeing so many pairs of ta-ta's running around, and limiting players choices with classes is almost always a bad idea. Having one or two that are unique to a certain race is okay, but making that the norm gets boring quickly. Besides, FEMANI...they have gotten ignored right along with male players, so yeah. Get the stick out BHS.
  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd say, if they gender lock, they should also gender lock to male once in awhile. But it seems that's no business, and apparently BHS lost the ability to make a class for more than one type of 3D skeleton model. Yes, yes, I know what some will say. "It's hard and takes ages to make classes for more than one skeleton." Yes. I know, but when you see so many people flood the forums with rage and Q.Q about gender locking (which apparently happens even n kTera forums), then you should think, as a dev, and TRY at least once to make something a little bit more about it. I mean. It's hard as heck to make a class now for all races or genders, but most people ask for AT LEAST a male for a given class, even if next to another female.
  • SvafnirSvafnir ✭✭✭
    JinxyKat39 wrote: »
    We just got a new class, i'm not even looking this far ahead. I do wish, though, that they would get off this gender locked crap. It just gets boring seeing so many pairs of ta-ta's running around, and limiting players choices with classes is almost always a bad idea. Having one or two that are unique to a certain race is okay, but making that the norm gets boring quickly. Besides, FEMANI...they have gotten ignored right along with male players, so yeah. Get the stick out BHS.

    If you go by race Humans, Castanics, H Elves and Elins have gotten their stuff... but I do see some serious discrimination towards Barakas, Poporis and Aman... not that Barakas receive any kind of love at all but still... it feels like both, sexism and racism but well... guess there's only so much they can do that will make them profit, which is the whole goal behind it.
  • Svafnir wrote: »
    it feels like both, sexism and racism but well... guess there's only so much they can do that will make them profit, which is the whole goal behind it.

    That's what it comes down to. It's about what will make players buy more costumes. More costume sales=more profit. Male and Amani Female costume just don't sell enough.
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