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IoD BAMs (again - sorry)

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  • TheGreyWolfTheGreyWolf ✭✭✭
    @Stifflersmum wait, wait... are you saying I can actually reroll the IoD BAM VG quests until I get the one I want, just by reopening the Vanguard window?

    That, if it's true... is freaking AWESOME...
  • VesporaxVesporax ✭✭
    I say don't change the bams or the classes, but instead buff the rewards accordingly. Giant > Hydrath > Naga. Giants gives 2x, Hydraths 1.5x, and Naga 1x. The bams aren't impossible to solo, but some are just not worth their reward compared to the time it takes.
  • SylrissaSylrissa ✭
    there need to be a flying vanguard daily where you got to fly and talk to certain people in a certain time limit to complete it what is both more creative and reasonably easy to make and do said quest. then current said quests
  • MikazukiTsukiMikazukiTsuki ✭
    BHS is lazy :expressionless: The last thing they want to do is make something look "right"...
  • StifflersmumStifflersmum ✭
    TheGreyWolf wrote: »
    @Stifflersmum wait, wait... are you saying I can actually reroll the IoD BAM VG quests until I get the one I want, just by reopening the Vanguard window?

    That, if it's true... is freaking AWESOME...

    no you cant just if you look on your Quest after finishing one it shows a different one > reopen and it changes to the real one which you need to do actually. so thats misleading and i went to kill wrong bams so many times...

    Vesporax wrote: »
    I say don't change the bams or the classes, but instead buff the rewards accordingly. Giant > Hydrath > Naga. Giants gives 2x, Hydraths 1.5x, and Naga 1x. The bams aren't impossible to solo, but some are just not worth their reward compared to the time it takes.

    try those things on an archer ... your stun is over and before you charged up a skill youre beeing overruned and in a kd chain ...
    than u feel the "class balance" they did that archers taking more dmg ... jesus thats really not worth
  • dinnersdinners ✭✭✭
    Vesporax wrote: »
    I say don't change the bams or the classes, but instead buff the rewards accordingly. Giant > Hydrath > Naga. Giants gives 2x, Hydraths 1.5x, and Naga 1x. The bams aren't impossible to solo, but some are just not worth their reward compared to the time it takes.

    But, the stun duration is way too short and bam turns around too fast. It's much harder with some classes. it's just so much easier and faster with brawler and ninja.
  • TheGreyWolfTheGreyWolf ✭✭✭
    @Stifflersmum oh... [filtered]. That's too bad. I miss the old way where you could pick which BAMs you wanted to fight.

    I usually just look for the green exclamation points above their heads if I'm not sure I'm on the right one.

    And yeah... stun duration for archer traps is not nearly long enough to maximize back crit time. For something like RoA, you pretty much have to cast RoA, then immediately afterwards cast the stun, and just hope that the trap hits before the BAM turns around. Casting the stun before, the BAM will break out of the stun before you even have time to use another skill. And also the archers taking more damage thing... LOL. Just LOL. I'm really curious to know the justification behind that nerf. Has anybody ever complained that archers were too tanky before? I mean I guess I could understand nerfing us if we like, oh I dunno, wore metal armor, had a little robot that followed us around healing us, and leashing us away from impending death, and a long range skill that counted as a back crit even when fired from the front... obviously that would be way too OP :p
  • XaeraXaera ✭✭✭
    You can lower your ilvl by taking stuff off, so you no longer qualify, and put it back on for it to reroll the bams. You may or may not need to relog after removing your weapons. I am unsure.
  • VesporaxVesporax ✭✭
    There comes a point where you're just better off with front crit/enraged/damage crystals. Archer mobility and playstyle just doesn't work on solo back crits. You're wasting precious time trying to back crit a boss that moves too fast and too often.
  • TheGreyWolfTheGreyWolf ✭✭✭
    @Vesporax I always wondered about front crit crystals for archer soloing, but it was my understanding that those are meant for tank classes only..? I figured spiteful was a good happy medium, since I should get a crit bonus even when I miss the back and get the side. Some of those BAMs are easier to back crit on than others, if you watch their movements carefully and get in behind them when they start an animation.. though you are right about most of them, they move way too fast to be able to back crit with any reliability.
  • dinnersdinners ✭✭✭
    I think, EME should increase stun duration time on BAM. It just turns around too fast after stun.
  • HikushiruHikushiru ✭
    edited June 2016
    They should just buff the bams and allow you to do them in a party without needing to kill extras.

    Or make it so that being in a party does not increase the number of bams you need to kill, unless the other party members have the same bam quest aswell.
  • NektorNektor ✭✭✭
    Maatkara wrote: »
    Even though I tell people this I still think that the setup of IoD content is wrong, TERA is a game not a job, people shouldn't have to play a certain subset of classes simply because it's the only way to realistically complete routine content.
    i'll just quote this part as it's well said
  • SylvietteSylviette ✭✭✭
    Based on the current Ktera conference this summer they will fix IoD bam to allow party kill.
    Means we can get it in 6 months.
    Also means they will not do anything regarding this again until then (since it's eme/bhs's logic - won't make any change to address the current issue if it's gonna get solved by some patches in the future)
  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    First. The one way for people to change the bam quest to what they want is to remove some gear, wait a bit, then re-equip and hope RNG gives them another quest. And this may be 'fixed' or may be already fixed to force the one initial quest already. There's no way now to do 3X the same bam.

    As for side crits from spiteful, now that I analyze further, is a sort of second prize. Full back crit setup that uses savage and weapon rolls still needs the attack to come from behind. Hitting from the side will only proc the spiteful, leaving savage and weapon roll unused. Sure, ranged classes should still stick to spiteful because switching back to bitter gives absolutely no returns, but be mindful that the prime spot for dps is still the back, and only the back.
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