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GDPR

Have you google'd that term recently?

Installing 3rd party spyware without consent or even prior notice is illegal in the EU (which you host the console version of tera btw).
Luckily it doesn't even start with "insufficient memory" and stalls my cpu at 100%.
As if this unoptimized clusterfck with it's flash UI wouldn't bottleneck the CPU already, you install more BS on top of it to turn my fps into powerpoint slides.

ggnore

Btw where's the server status page? I want to check when Eme is ready so I can update.

Comments

  • edited June 2018
    Peorth wrote: »
    Installing 3rd party spyware without consent or even prior notice is illegal in the EU (which you host the console version of tera btw).

    I am not a lawyer, but I had to study this law for my own work, and I think that's too simplistic. It has to be disclosed (which it is at least mentioned in their Privacy Policy) and it has to respect the data subject rights for EU natural persons. There are a bunch of other requirements about notifications if there were any breaches, etc. There are many legal bases for processing, not only consent, so there's nothing in the law that says they must do that. Whether what they've done is sufficient to cover them under GDPR is obviously for lawyers and the EU jurisdictional supervisory authorities to decide; if someone is an EU natural person, they could pursue their rights according to that law. But it's not flat-out illegal according to this law, as far as I can tell. (Besides, if it were, given that EME has been using this for Closers which they publish in the EU, their lawyers would almost certainly have said/done something when they were working on compliance.)
  • CassandraTRCassandraTR ✭✭✭✭✭
    There has to be be systems for compliance, ie making sure they are doing what they say they are doing and nothing more. EME can't even give that to their own customers. What makes you think they can give that to the EU governing bodies? Wellbia's website doesn't even clearly say exactly what it does in that broken-google-translated English...

    C'mon counterpoint... you're smarter than that.

    Secondly, Wellbia's own garbage website says that the user must agree to the terms and conditions of xingcode3 (which thus indemnifies Wellbia from any damages,) and none of NA TERA's players were given that chance. There isn't a pop up notification. There isn't a EULA box to check after you read it. It just installs when TERA updates. The only notice was @seandynamite 's pathetic attempt at telling us all, and then radio silence. They wouldn't have even told us if they didn't do an early server update and it was found out.

    That's [filtered] and you know it.

    "Ignorance of the law is not an excuse for breaking it," that works only in criminal cases. In contracts, especially those pertaining to business, if something isn't disclosed, or is hidden, and hurts one party of the contract that is on the OTHER party in the contract.
  • metagamemetagame ✭✭✭✭
    lucky for eu console players they dont have xign
  • edited June 2018
    There has to be be systems for compliance, ie making sure they are doing what they say they are doing and nothing more. EME can't even give that to their own customers. What makes you think they can give that to the EU governing bodies? Wellbia's website doesn't even clearly say exactly what it does in that broken-google-translated English...

    C'mon counterpoint... you're smarter than that.

    Secondly, Wellbia's own garbage website says that the user must agree to the terms and conditions of xingcode3 (which thus indemnifies Wellbia from any damages,) and none of NA TERA's players were given that chance. There isn't a pop up notification. There isn't a EULA box to check after you read it. It just installs when TERA updates. The only notice was @seandynamite 's pathetic attempt at telling us all, and then radio silence. They wouldn't have even told us if they didn't do an early server update and it was found out.

    That's [filtered] and you know it.

    "Ignorance of the law is not an excuse for breaking it," that works only in criminal cases. In contracts, especially those pertaining to business, if something isn't disclosed, or is hidden, and hurts one party of the contract that is on the OTHER party in the contract.

    I'm just going based on my work of literally reading that law. The points you mentioned are good ideas, and probably what I would have done if it were up to me, but the law doesn't say flat out that it's required. The way it works is that an EU citizen has to exercise their rights, contest their use of data, and escalate it to the supervisory authority if they don't find EME's response acceptable. At that point, EME would have to provide all the information needed to the authority (both what's public and the documentation they keep internally), and it'd be up to the authority to decide if what EME did is sufficient or not. I can tell you that nobody is exactly sure right now how they'll decide, or what the impact will be. (Many jurisdictions commented that they weren't even funded and ready to start dealing with this by the time the law was put into effect. It'll be some time until all the dust settles.)

    If someone were planning to do this, though, TERA would make the least sense since EME doesn't have the EU publishing rights. Would be better for one of EME's other games.
  • im not in hate train wagon, if its meant to improve fairplay and in overall summary work for our (just gamers, not min maxing tryhards) benefit its cool with me
    BUT
    id love to see EME treats us respectfully as partner in trade and provide all neccessary information with of course option to agree/disagree and stop that ninja sht they do which resemble dictatorship
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