Do people still play the warrior class?

Artaniss · June 2016

And if so how much lower is dps in general as opposed to the other dps classes in similar gear. And how do warriors do solo play pve and dueling/ group pvp?

iSky · June 2016

The gap is as wide as you think. This is coming from someone who main warrior for a bit.

Catorii · June 2016

pooni wrote: »

Play well and you won't be that far behind ninja( tho still pretty far).

A gap in DPS that could probably be comparable to the atlantic ocean is not "that far behind."

TIL.

@OP - If you enjoy the class, play it. Yes, it's one of the worst DPS classes right now, and yes, it will remain as one of the lowest even after the upcoming buff, but it won't be near useless tier like it is now, unless you're planning on ever tanking (in which case, don't, until we get a magic redesign in 2022). That doesn't mean you're not going to get accepted into parties, though - you just have to be ready to see how much worse your damage is going to be compared to top tier classes, because it can and will make you feel obsolete. But if you're having fun, that shouldn't really matter. I still find my warrior more fun than my ninja.

PvP's a completely different story, of course - they're one of the best PvP classes, and have been for a while.

Catservant · June 2016

I play Warrior....but only with my friends. I play other classes when I LFG or IMS. I think it's a really great class but difficult to learn the playstyle that works.

sanj66 · June 2016

pooni wrote: »

It's not that wide. If you experience the gap being larger than a dozen percentage done, maybe you should reevaluate your self proclaimed warrior skills.

ninja vs warrior is basically 2X dps gap, vs older classes yea not so much, but vs the newer classes the gap is huge, even with gunners and reapers (who are getting buffed again idk why)

Fleett · June 2016

Yes, they do. I have mained warrior for quite a long time, and nothing is going to stop me from doing that.

Warrior in smallscale PvP and 1v1 are gods, in largescale PvP that's a different story. But, if you see a random straggler that got separated from the group consider him/her dead.

Now in PvE our dps sucks, we only have one skill that does considerate damage for us, scythe. The rest are meh and you should be building up edge as fast as possible to scythe.

Yithar · June 2016

Artaniss wrote: »

And if so how much lower is dps in general as opposed to the other dps classes in similar gear. And how do warriors do solo play pve?

I'd say it's at least 2x between warrior and top DPS classes like brawler and ninja. See picture and picture. Do note I used a bravery potion and old +15 vm4 gear, which is like equivalent to dreadnaught +12 now. YMMV.

Warriors are really good at soloing because they can stick to the back of a BAM with multiple rolls, but that doesn't quite make up for the DPS gap.

ThoseWhoStrive · June 2016

My warrior is in full +12 Slaughter, and this picture shows my DPS on Verno without Noctenium or Bravery. Notice how the Ninja is still higher than me in DPS.

Now see a picture of my full +9 Slaughter archer alt (because I'm cheap and don't wanna +12 it yet) versus the Ninja's DPS. Huuuuge difference, even though I'm pulling relatively okay DPS numbers on my archer.

You can still see the low DPS that the ninja pulled on my Warrior run and the low DPS that the Warrior pulled on my archer run; yes, skill is definitely a major factor in how well you play a class but against people of equal skill, like these charts show, the Ninja will still almost always be top.

sanj66 · June 2016

no offense but those read outs are really poor for ninjas, either they are new to the class or they are just bad, the highest i have gotten on verno with my warrior is around 950k/s my buddy with his ninja does nothing lower than 1.6-1.7m/s, even the second boss those numbers are really low, also both me and my friend have the same weapon type and enchantment level. ninja is 2X a warriors dps if you even look at the hit numbers its almost double the hits as well.

Catorii · June 2016

sestina wrote: »

Nuvolebianche wrote: »

Warrior is great class. Its just not good when you gotta use IMS or LFG because people are worried their run will take a min or 2 longer.

They have traverse cut though. Which is needed for Ninjas to boost their DPS to show off on that DPS website. :^)

Archers do too. Traverse and Enfeebling Trap don't stack, either, so once archers get their crit buff, there's really not going to be any reason to take a war for debuffs.

canikizu · June 2016

Yithar wrote: »

Artaniss wrote: »

And if so how much lower is dps in general as opposed to the other dps classes in similar gear. And how do warriors do solo play pve?

I'd say it's at least 2x between warrior and top DPS classes like brawler and ninja. See picture and picture. Do note I used a bravery potion and old +15 vm4 gear, which is like equivalent to dreadnaught +12 now. YMMV.

Warriors are really good at soloing because they can stick to the back of a BAM with multiple rolls, but that doesn't quite make up for the DPS gap.

Then again, in the same picture, you outdamaged another ninja and had very close number to the brawler. It's a bad presentation if i have to say.

When comparing classes, it's reasonable to take into accounts which set of dungeons we are running. Currently in these dungeons (mainly SS), mobility classes are kings, and ninja is excel with that. If you compare ninja and warrior, warrior is gonna lose badly. However warrior can hold against classes like brawler, reaper, gunner because of their superior mobility. Not taking ninja into acount, i've seen warrior and slayer can hold against other new classes.

Nopi · June 2016

I should play my warrior more. I like it. But I like too many other classes. I also happened to like ninja, and not even because of it's dps... I myself would want ninja dps to be cut in about half after all.

Yithar · June 2016

canikizu wrote: »

Yithar wrote: »

Artaniss wrote: »

And if so how much lower is dps in general as opposed to the other dps classes in similar gear. And how do warriors do solo play pve?

I'd say it's at least 2x between warrior and top DPS classes like brawler and ninja. See picture and picture. Do note I used a bravery potion and old +15 vm4 gear, which is like equivalent to dreadnaught +12 now. YMMV.

Warriors are really good at soloing because they can stick to the back of a BAM with multiple rolls, but that doesn't quite make up for the DPS gap.

Then again, in the same picture, you outdamaged another ninja and had very close number to the brawler. It's a bad presentation if i have to say.

When comparing classes, it's reasonable to take into accounts which set of dungeons we are running.

Well, I was also trying to imply your latter point. That you have to take into account what boss you're talking about, because different DPS do better on different bosses. Like afaik there were certain mechanics in FI that stopped melee DPS from DPSing but allowed gunners and reapers to keep DPSing.

Also I should've mentioned the ninja that I did beat had just hit 65, so it shows how you don't need as much effort to do well with the newer classes.

SparkerX · June 2016

I started with a Warrior and am really thankful. - I like the mix of tank / dps - Depending on who I am rolling with.
I know several of our Guild have started with Warriors so there is a whole new group of us to be found in HW server.

Aulon · June 2016

Some people still do and they are back to the days of MChm as far as value in a team, meaning you take on to do HMs only if they are very good at the class or they are dead wait. Which is how every class should be IMO.

Do people still play the warrior class?

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