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Today's Extended Maintenance

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  • allofspaceandtimeallofspaceandtime ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lol...Hmmm
    I wasn't aware of the squishy nature in the time space continuum. 12:00PM PDT is ACTUALLY +/- 30 minutes.
    Wish I could convince my boss of flexibility for promise dates.

    its all a big ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff.
  • ONline XDD
  • edited June 2018
    T5N5JX9HRP wrote: »
    Naru2008 wrote: »
    T5N5JX9HRP wrote: »
    BOBBYYYY wrote: »
    @CobaltDragon can you guys reply to any other threads regarding golden/silver/bluc nocs problems? we know you guys see them. its rude as hell to ignore tbh.
    I constantly send that feedback / suggestions forward to the appropriate Team, or on to Bluehole.
    Do you want a comment within each Thread, just saying " This has been passed along, Thanks ! " ?

    They aren't asking you to ask Bluehole about it. Do the stuff you can do right now. Hold events that give more of these items. Do some of the stuff that Gameforge has done themselves. You guys have fallen from grace super hard, I'm surprised you don't look at Gameforge more often for wisdom...

    Except we don't have a free employee to sit there, study TERA's coding, and build completely unique content, which is what Gameforge does.

    Please educate yourself before you fool yourself.

    So [filtered] hire one. How is that a hard concept? Do they want TERA to die? No? Put more effort into actually making it not die, then.

    Think about the inner-office politics. "The Bluehole family of companies" already has a team developing TERA features and "responsible for not making TERA die"; that team is in Korea. EME can't be like "we think your team in Korea isn't doing a good enough job, so we're going to hire our own people to do the things you won't." That's insubordination and they'd just be fired and replaced with other people who will color within the lines. That's the difference between being a sister company (EME) and being a licensee (Gameforge).

    So basically, the progression in this game is the way it is because that's the way BHS wants it, and EME can't do anything to undermine that unless BHS gives the okay. And if this decision ends up destroying the game in this market, I'm sure that EME will have mountains of documented evidence of customer feedback to prove to BHS that they have no one to blame but themselves.

    Meantime, keep providing constructive feedback they can forward. That's literally all we can do. Angry rants won't do anything to help the people who are literally forbidden from acting, and won't be able to be forwarded to the bosses.
  • ladyrainesladyraines ✭✭
    edited June 2018
    Great missed today calendar claim because of the extended maintenance. Login last night and tried this morning and couldn't because of the "extended maintenance that lasted an additional two hours. Went to work and came back and can't claim rewards. Is there not comp for the extended maintenance.

    I left TERA 2 years back and I think I remembered why. Terrible management.

    So, is this extended maintenance going to happen each week now. Its been about a month like this.

    Where is the EME response to this?
  • edited June 2018
    ladyraines wrote: »
    Great missed today calendar claim because of the extended maintenance. Login last night and tried this morning and couldn't because of the "extended maintenance that lasted an additional two hours. Went to work and came back and can't claim rewards. Is there not comp for the extended maintenance.

    The calendar thing is, sadly, a bug. I know they're aware of the bug at least. However, there's a pretty high chance that, if you login tomorrow morning, you'll be able to claim both today's and tomorrow's. Any time between 1am and 5pm PDT works, but after 5pm PDT is bugged due to a timezone conversion issue.

    I know this doesn't address your larger point, but just wanted to explain this stupid bug with the calendar (that I've been elevating for weeks).

  • allofspaceandtimeallofspaceandtime ✭✭✭✭✭
    ladyraines wrote: »
    Great missed today calendar claim because of the extended maintenance. Login last night and tried this morning and couldn't because of the "extended maintenance that lasted an additional two hours. Went to work and came back and can't claim rewards. Is there not comp for the extended maintenance.

    I left TERA 2 years back and I think I remembered why. Terrible management.

    So, is this extended maintenance going to happen each week now. Its been about a month like this.

    Where is the EME response to this?

    " soon ", " we are looking in to that " , " we suggested it to bhs " , " there's nothing we can do, only bhs can do it ", " send in a ticket " , " take a screen shot and report it ", .... take your pick from one or more of the automated responses.
  • ladyraines wrote: »
    Great missed today calendar claim because of the extended maintenance. Login last night and tried this morning and couldn't because of the "extended maintenance that lasted an additional two hours. Went to work and came back and can't claim rewards. Is there not comp for the extended maintenance.

    The calendar thing is, sadly, a bug. I know they're aware of the bug at least. However, there's a pretty high chance that, if you login tomorrow morning, you'll be able to claim both today's and tomorrow's. Any time between 1am and 5pm PDT works, but after 5pm PDT is bugged due to a timezone conversion issue.

    I know this doesn't address your larger point, but just wanted to explain this stupid bug with the calendar (that I've been elevating for weeks).

    Thanks...hopefully I can get it tomorrow.
    How long has the bug been present?
    Still doesn't fix the issue of constant extended maintenance. Terrible just terrible both on technical side and EME's lack of response/comp.Really regret coming back and spending money on the 6th Anniversary sale. I don't want to support a company that ignore issues that the community has.
  • ladyraines wrote: »
    How long has the bug been present?
    Still doesn't fix the issue of constant extended maintenance.

    Bug started in an attempt to fix a different bug a while ago -- maybe it was late-April? But the problem is it's a region-specific bug that can only be reproduced in specific hours. At least it's in process.

    As for the extended maintenance -- they had a bad stretch for a while, but actually the last few weeks had all ended on-time. Today's case seems to be some unusual issue with the store, I guess. I don't think they'll ever eliminate the possibility of extending maintenance, but maybe you're right that they should consider some sort of compensation when it happens. What is right/fair, though, is another issue. I do think that the most important thing to do whenever something breaks is first to solve it, and worry about compensation later. That doesn't mean it should be forgotten though.
  • StitchedSoulStitchedSoul ✭✭✭✭
    > @CobaltDragon said:
    > BOBBYYYY wrote: »
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    > @CobaltDragon can you guys reply to any other threads regarding golden/silver/bluc nocs problems? we know you guys see them. its rude as hell to ignore tbh.
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    > I constantly send that feedback / suggestions forward to the appropriate Team, or on to Bluehole.
    > Do you want a comment within each Thread, just saying " This has been passed along, Thanks ! " ?

    Iirc we talked about it before, you started say it in many threads and people calmed down. But after,..something happened again.
  • Iirc we talked about it before, you started say it in many threads and people calmed down. But after,..something happened again.

    Problem is, if you just say it in many threads, but nothing changes, people will think you're lying. Just like people think that Player Council "doesn't play the game" and all sort of other BS just because the problems aren't solved, as if the problem is that we didn't tell them or that EME doesn't know. At the end of the day, people want action.

    (Not like I'm opposed to more confirmation of what issues have been relayed, but we've been down this road so many times before that we know where it ends.)
  • StitchedSoulStitchedSoul ✭✭✭✭
    True dat. But answering in some threads that grow into two or more threads imo is nessesary to not make people feel abandoned.
  • allofspaceandtimeallofspaceandtime ✭✭✭✭✭
    Iirc we talked about it before, you started say it in many threads and people calmed down. But after,..something happened again.

    Problem is, if you just say it in many threads, but nothing changes, people will think you're lying. Just like people think that Player Council "doesn't play the game" and all sort of other BS just because the problems aren't solved, as if the problem is that we didn't tell them or that EME doesn't know. At the end of the day, people want action.

    (Not like I'm opposed to more confirmation of what issues have been relayed, but we've been down this road so many times before that we know where it ends.)

    it would be nice of eme staff if the made a post or something in our forums, letting us know what some of the answers that bhs gave to them pertaining to our suggestions/ideas/complaints. at least then we wouldn't think they are lying to us or just placating us by giving us an statement and hoping we will forget. its been that way for years and people are starting to feel like mushrooms here.
  • edited June 2018
    Iirc we talked about it before, you started say it in many threads and people calmed down. But after,..something happened again.

    Problem is, if you just say it in many threads, but nothing changes, people will think you're lying. Just like people think that Player Council "doesn't play the game" and all sort of other BS just because the problems aren't solved, as if the problem is that we didn't tell them or that EME doesn't know. At the end of the day, people want action.

    (Not like I'm opposed to more confirmation of what issues have been relayed, but we've been down this road so many times before that we know where it ends.)

    it would be nice of eme staff if the made a post or something in our forums, letting us know what some of the answers that bhs gave to them pertaining to our suggestions/ideas/complaints. at least then we wouldn't think they are lying to us or just placating us by giving us an statement and hoping we will forget. its been that way for years and people are starting to feel like mushrooms here.

    Yeah, I've mentioned that a few times to them as well. I feel like there's a bit of a cultural thing about BHS being very traditional and hierarchical that prevents the sort of open communication our market is more used to, and that's really the source of a lot of problems for this game. Maybe we can try again to prepare a list of constructive politely-worded questions/concerns and ask again if there's any way to get them answered by BHS.
  • ladyrainesladyraines ✭✭
    edited June 2018
    Iirc we talked about it before, you started say it in many threads and people calmed down. But after,..something happened again.

    Problem is, if you just say it in many threads, but nothing changes, people will think you're lying. Just like people think that Player Council "doesn't play the game" and all sort of other BS just because the problems aren't solved, as if the problem is that we didn't tell them or that EME doesn't know. At the end of the day, people want action.

    (Not like I'm opposed to more confirmation of what issues have been relayed, but we've been down this road so many times before that we know where it ends.)

    it would be nice of eme staff if the made a post or something in our forums, letting us know what some of the answers that bhs gave to them pertaining to our suggestions/ideas/complaints. at least then we wouldn't think they are lying to us or just placating us by giving us an statement and hoping we will forget. its been that way for years and people are starting to feel like mushrooms here.

    Yeah, I've mentioned that a few times to them as well. I feel like there's a bit of a cultural thing about BHS being very traditional and hierarchical that prevents the sort of open communication our market is more used to, and that's really the source of a lot of problems for this game. Maybe we can try again to prepare a list of constructive politely-worded questions/concerns and ask again if there's any way to get them answered by BHS.

    I don't think the player base really cares about the reason. Common sense should tell them that open communication is 100% necessary so players feel heard. Heard players= happy players = paying players
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