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Suggestion for another i-frame (Priests)

OreooooOreoooo
edited June 2018 in TERA PC - General Discussion
Would be nice if Fiery Escape is an i-frame since we only have backstep as one and it has 1second i-frame. Making it hard to dodge other mechanics even when you know how to avoid it. An important class and one of the squishiest and only have 1 i-frame is dumb. Where's the love for healers? D:

P.S. pls gib iframe ;-;
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  • LynxzerLynxzer ✭✭✭
    Fiery Escape if used properly is a great "iframe"... i'm priest main and never had issues before.. its all about practice.
  • JXE5356AKEJXE5356AKE ✭✭✭
    In a future update, using guardian sanctuary resets backstep cd or something like that. So soontm.
  • AMFKKM74E7AMFKKM74E7 ✭✭
    doesn't it already have a low cd though
  • CornishRexCornishRex ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lynxzer wrote: »
    Fiery Escape if used properly is a great "iframe"... i'm priest main and never had issues before.. its all about practice.

    Fiery escape is not an i-frame, it's a movement skill. Backstep has invicibility frames in it, unlike fiery escape.
    That said, all mechs should be doable with just backstep, we just need a lot of cdr and need to practice saving iframes instead of using them for dumb stuff I guess.
  • ValiantCorvusValiantCorvus ✭✭✭
    Priest doesn't really need an extra iframe. As a priest main I've found you can avoid 90% of boss mechanics with fiery escape and good positioning, it just takes practice.

    Frankly priest with two iframes would be laughably broken and easy to play
  • SageWinduSageWindu High Seat of the Jedi Council ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just thought of something: how come priests never got a teleport skill like mystics and sorcs?
  • StitchedSoulStitchedSoul ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2018
    Fiery escape if you use it right in time will remove need in iframe. One iframe is enough imo. Don't have any issues with this. Experience +knowledge of bosses.
    P.s. I'm also using dyads with movement speed only, not mp. Whole 8 spd.
  • voidyvoidy ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2018
    Honestly if they're gonna keep coming out with [filtered] RNG dungeons that randomly target the healer with iframe-only off-targets multiple times in a row, I wouldn't mind at all if their fiery escape became an iframe. Saying this as a tank who's tired of watching priests backstep a laser at AA only to get killed by bad luck a second later when circles spawn near them, which they could've just iframed again had they been a mystic. If mystic gets 2 teleports and the ability to run around in combat while most of their buffs run passively and their debuff gets to be twice as long, I really don't see what's """"broken"""" about making fiery escape an iframe just to give priests one less thing to juggle on their plate.
  • CornishRexCornishRex ✭✭✭✭✭
    voidy wrote: »
    Honestly if they're gonna keep coming out with [filtered] RNG dungeons that randomly target the healer with iframe-only off-targets multiple times in a row, I wouldn't mind at all if their fiery escape became an iframe. Saying this as a tank who's tired of watching priests backstep a laser at AA only to get killed by bad luck a second later when circles spawn near them, which they could've just iframed again had they been a mystic. If mystic gets 2 teleports and the ability to run around in combat, I really don't see what's """"broken"""" about making fiery escape an iframe.

    This is true, on my mystic I have an easier time escaping multiple mechs at once, which Antaroth loves to do.

    Soon priests are getting the buff or w.e on guardian sanctuary, apparently it will reset iframe cd once it's used or something.

    Priests are legit the only class in the game with just one iframe (archers who have the most similar movement skills had theirs turned into iframes as well) and while I personally think that with enough practice it becomes easier to maneuver around the boss and through the fight with just one iframe, there are definitely moments when I go "bulls hit".
    Definitely had a few of those moments in AA. Sometimes the boss likes to target you with two secondary aggros when he clones himself, so if you're not super overgeared, au revoir! While every other class can get out of that fine...

    While I do agree that the game needs to stay challenging, the problem with balancing iframes is that if you have 1 class with 1 iframe (priest) and 1 class with 5-6 iframes (warrior) one of these two is either going to have a really hard time or a really easy time. Oh well.
  • LynxzerLynxzer ✭✭✭
    CornishRex wrote: »
    Lynxzer wrote: »
    Fiery Escape if used properly is a great "iframe"... i'm priest main and never had issues before.. its all about practice.

    Fiery escape is not an i-frame, it's a movement skill. Backstep has invicibility frames in it, unlike fiery escape.
    That said, all mechs should be doable with just backstep, we just need a lot of cdr and need to practice saving iframes instead of using them for dumb stuff I guess.

    i said "iframe" ... " " <-
  • LynxzerLynxzer ✭✭✭
    ValiantCorvus wrote: »
    Priest doesn't really need an extra iframe. As a priest main I've found you can avoid 90% of boss mechanics with fiery escape and good positioning, it just takes practice.

    Frankly priest with two iframes would be laughably broken and easy to play

    This guy understands my point ^
  • CornishRexCornishRex ✭✭✭✭✭
    > @Lynxzer said:
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    > Lynxzer wrote: »
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    > Fiery Escape if used properly is a great "iframe"... i'm priest main and never had issues before.. its all about practice.
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    > Fiery escape is not an i-frame, it's a movement skill. Backstep has invicibility frames in it, unlike fiery escape.
    > That said, all mechs should be doable with just backstep, we just need a lot of cdr and need to practice saving iframes instead of using them for dumb stuff I guess.
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    > i said "iframe" ... " " <-

    There's no "iframe" it's either a real iframe or a movement skill, no inbetweens. Theres no invincibility frames in fiery escape and thus you have to use it way early to get out of attacks and you need to outrange them too which is not how you would use backstep.
  • StarSpriteStarSprite mod
    I kinda scrolled through this without reading it all so sorry if already brought up but priest will eventually be able to reset backstep cd after using gs. I was playing around with it on the Korean test server today. Not quite the same as having two iframes to use one after the other but yeah
  • voidyvoidy ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2018
    Is the CD on GS still relatively long compared to the cooldown on backstep? Because if I recall correctly, just standing there casting GS in the first place probably takes half the time of just waiting for backstep to come off cd naturally, and only being able to do it like every 20 seconds or whatever barely feels like a solution to the main issue, which is having to backstep twice in 3 seconds.

    Not trying to sound like a whiny [filtered], just don't see why every other class in the game gets 2 or more iframes, including the other healer subtype, but priest is still stuck with one and has to stop what it's doing and use GS to 'reset' that one skill when they could just give them the archer version of fiery escape that even has the same animation, but just includes an iframe with it. Wouldn't even really care if they didn't keep coming out with dungeons that randomly launch mechanic after mechanic like AA, but some of this stuff reminds me of how zerk used to be when it only had one iframe. Sure, it was definitely doable with enough tenacity, but there were still so many BS death moments that any other class could have easily avoided.

    That being said, there's genuinely no point discussing this here since bhs already implemented their "solution" to this issue and if we don't like it, they sure as hell aren't going to change it for us.
  • OreooooOreoooo ✭
    I haven't read about the Guardian Sanctuary thing but if it's true, I'll take it. Although giving Fiery Escape an iframe would be better and easier to do, reset on backstep is ok.

    I still hope they'll have plans on doing it in the future.
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