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Change back PvP servers

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  • edited March 2018
    Equitas wrote: »
    I've noticed proponents of the old system follow a trend where they conjur up this fantasy, that epic fights were constantly taking place all over the open world, to support their argument. It's just that: a fantasy. The reality is that the vast majority of the so-called PvP was just harassing players with a level and gear disadvantage. Overworld PvP is still possible, but look at how many people don't want to participate when their opponents have comparable gear. The reason PvP died, ironically enough, is because players don't want a fight. They want an easy win. Players got tired of falling victim to fragile internet egos, so they begged En Masse to change it. Now they finally have a chance to level and join the fight on at least somewhat equal ground.

    You do realize that EVEN IF u get to lvl 65 u STILL wouldn't have the same gear as another person who was lvl 65 for a longer time as u. You still have to grind for the good gear so I don't see the point.....just change it so that the lvl requirements are lvl 30 or 25. Let the ppl who want to PvP from early PvP. If you want to grind for the 65 gear then PvP do that just don't force it on other ppl who want to have fun and PvP early.
  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    Equitas wrote: »
    I've noticed proponents of the old system follow a trend where they conjur up this fantasy, that epic fights were constantly taking place all over the open world, to support their argument. It's just that: a fantasy. The reality is that the vast majority of the so-called PvP was just harassing players with a level and gear disadvantage. Overworld PvP is still possible, but look at how many people don't want to participate when their opponents have comparable gear. The reason PvP died, ironically enough, is because players don't want a fight. They want an easy win. Players got tired of falling victim to fragile internet egos, so they begged En Masse to change it. Now they finally have a chance to level and join the fight on at least somewhat equal ground.

    You do realize that EVEN IF u get to lvl 65 u STILL wouldn't have the same gear as another person who was lvl 65 for a longer time as u. You still have to grind for the good gear so I don't see the point.....just change it so that the lvl requirements are lvl 30 or 25. Let the ppl who want to PvP from early PvP. If you want to grind for the 65 gear then PvP do that just don't force it on other ppl who want to have fun and PvP early.

    The issue lies deeper than being able to do it by system: you can argue that there's no people on open world cause they took away the fun.
    But... how many people actually DID like the lengthy quest and monster grinding on open world for leveling? How many do you expect to take the long route just so they can PVP on open world longer? Not just that, remember that you have to find people around your level or so to have a fair fight, otherwise it's a pathetic gank, AND you need to find people on the zone itself you are. You've got a whole bunch of factors.

    Sorry to say but if OWPVP was brought back to it's "former glory", it would last for ~14 levels. 11-25 tops. Best case add another 5 to the 60-65 and now you're back to new system anyway. The vast majority will just queue dungeons and Kumas meanwhile leveling, I can't imagine OWPVP being enough to make people want to take a long route on leveling.

    You'll have to completely revamp leveling, AND make people interested in making new characters to level, all for the old PVP system to make sense again.
  • ElinLove wrote: »
    Equitas wrote: »
    I've noticed proponents of the old system follow a trend where they conjur up this fantasy, that epic fights were constantly taking place all over the open world, to support their argument. It's just that: a fantasy. The reality is that the vast majority of the so-called PvP was just harassing players with a level and gear disadvantage. Overworld PvP is still possible, but look at how many people don't want to participate when their opponents have comparable gear. The reason PvP died, ironically enough, is because players don't want a fight. They want an easy win. Players got tired of falling victim to fragile internet egos, so they begged En Masse to change it. Now they finally have a chance to level and join the fight on at least somewhat equal ground.

    You do realize that EVEN IF u get to lvl 65 u STILL wouldn't have the same gear as another person who was lvl 65 for a longer time as u. You still have to grind for the good gear so I don't see the point.....just change it so that the lvl requirements are lvl 30 or 25. Let the ppl who want to PvP from early PvP. If you want to grind for the 65 gear then PvP do that just don't force it on other ppl who want to have fun and PvP early.

    The issue lies deeper than being able to do it by system: you can argue that there's no people on open world cause they took away the fun.
    But... how many people actually DID like the lengthy quest and monster grinding on open world for leveling? How many do you expect to take the long route just so they can PVP on open world longer? Not just that, remember that you have to find people around your level or so to have a fair fight, otherwise it's a pathetic gank, AND you need to find people on the zone itself you are. You've got a whole bunch of factors.

    Sorry to say but if OWPVP was brought back to it's "former glory", it would last for ~14 levels. 11-25 tops. Best case add another 5 to the 60-65 and now you're back to new system anyway. The vast majority will just queue dungeons and Kumas meanwhile leveling, I can't imagine OWPVP being enough to make people want to take a long route on leveling.

    You'll have to completely revamp leveling, AND make people interested in making new characters to level, all for the old PVP system to make sense again.

    I'll drink to that *tips hat* cheers
  • When Tera was released i enjoyed it , Im a PVP player, i like PVP and i hate leveling - its the most boring stuff , so all games i used to play the only thing that was making me to lvl up is being able to pvp wile i lvl with ppl that are leveling with same level as i was, this makes game interesting.
    I hate games where you can only duel or go to arena , now i saw that Tera came out on PS4 and i started to play just to remember the old days..
    You cannot imagine my disappointment when i registered on pvp server made lvl 20 andtry to PK someone and didnt find that button for activation of PK and after making research and when i found that i need to lvl till 65 ...... well the only thing that i could think of is how stupid was the person who made this shlt to pvp system in tera , i want faking pvp with my character I dont need that Kuma shlt or world of tanks that you made , this game became just for kids and very boring.

    PPL who doesnt like to be Gnaked - go to PVE servers , PVP players go to PVP and dont give a shlt about being ganked wile they lvl up.
    Bring the system back to its original form.

    or make that when you enter to PVP server - hit 1 monster and you are lvl 65 and you are able to pvp from the begining .

    Current PVP servers are shlt and worst i have seen.( Lineage 2 / Aion /Archeage / Black desert / and many many other games have good pvp system and its cheked by time and all happy WHY you try to make something new and so disappointing......


    Here is what i did when Tera just came out youtube.com/watch?v=2L5s_iXiDE8&t=496s

    was so much fun, and wanted to do same now and what i get - 1. Leveling too fast till 60 and wile you do this boring shlt you cant kill anyone but you think like ok its fast lvling i will get that 65 soon
    2. on lvl 61 i realize that last 5 lvls are very slow to get and i will have to spend more time just to facking pvp.
    3.i was ok fack it i will just go to Arena and make some pvp there ...... Kuma ?Oo Iron Battleground ?oO = OMFG if i want to play tanks i go to play Battlefield not Tera ..... off the game and filled with disappointment in new Tera for Kids....

    Just needed to leave my opinion on this .......
  • tisnotmetisnotme ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2018
    Yep another post going on bout bringing back pvp just so i can pk others lower than me and kill off pvp more

    So you want pvp but you don't want it to actually challenge other players in actual pvp but just to go gank others trying to get their gear together
  • The problem with lvl 65 exclusive PvP is the fact that all of the lvl 65 just idle in main Cities and you have noone to PvP with. Also you cannot be attacked by someone of a few lvls higher than you... which was actually pretty fun... (I still remember that lvl 47 brawler trying to kill my lvl 21 archer... and failing to their grave...)

    The disease Tera is suffering of began with Avatar weapons when killing bosses started to be 1-4 hits instead of a few minutes... no problem killing World Bosses... soloing any dungeon is a piece of a cake...
    So PvE died that time. Because easy PvE is a dead PvE. You could say "but hey! lvl 65 content was hard!". It was not. Manaya Core was way harder than lvl 65 content.... All the lvl 65 content had was tons of HP, nothing else.

    As they've made PvP exclusive to lvl 65, they've made it so easy to achieve lvl 65 - actually one day - literally.
    And then... what else to do?... oh right... idle in the City with other lvl 65s and wait for the new patch... run the new dungeon a few times... and back to the idle mode....

    No wonder the game is slowly dying. There is nothing to do. Once every a few years they give you a class and one dungeon and are like "here, have it, enjoy"...

    All we had in the time of the impas between patches was PvP, now we have nothing. Hence me and many other peple left or will leave.

    I always say - make one real OWPvP server with lvl 11+ limit. You lose nothing EME, but people may get lured by a real, merciless OWPvP which is lately hardly possible to witness. There is many PK fans who are seeking a new home. Make Tera this home for them.
  • DL7MMWLJ3WDL7MMWLJ3W ✭✭✭✭
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    What's going on with people bringing up old topics...
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    DL7MMWLJ3W wrote: »
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    What's going on with people bringing up old topics...

    topic is old only after 365 days :3
  • allofspaceandtimeallofspaceandtime ✭✭✭✭✭
    at this point in time, eme may as well make a pvp server like the old way. then maybe people will come back to play, if only to gank lowbies.
  • DL7MMWLJ3W wrote: »
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    What's going on with people bringing up old topics...

    The answer is simple - bringing it up to not create new topics of the same title. One of rules on any forums is - don't spam forums. Creating multiple topics of the same title and content is a kind of spam. To avoid spamming I rather play a necromancer girl and bring this topic back alive.
    Kill me if you hate it... oh right... no PvP... =3
  • tisnotmetisnotme ✭✭✭✭
    Sanxxieh wrote: »
    DL7MMWLJ3W wrote: »
    VfiHBs9.png

    What's going on with people bringing up old topics...

    The answer is simple - bringing it up to not create new topics of the same title. One of rules on any forums is - don't spam forums. Creating multiple topics of the same title and content is a kind of spam. To avoid spamming I rather play a necromancer girl and bring this topic back alive.
    Kill me if you hate it... oh right... no PvP... =3

    But but but
    Necromancing and bumping threads is also against the rules like spamming
    And talk bout spamming just look at the monthly
    I want a name wipe
    Or
    I want a server merge
    Threads , but i don't think pvp can be saved any more with where it's got to and how it got here
  • If your definition of "fun PVP" is to PK low level players, then you are the cause PVP is no more.
  • allofspaceandtimeallofspaceandtime ✭✭✭✭✭
    dmaxcustom wrote: »
    If your definition of "fun PVP" is to PK low level players, then you are the cause PVP is no more.

    the ganking of lowbies is what killed the pvp servers. I never went to the pvp servers because I knew what would happen to me there and I felt it best to avoid it.
    I would like to see a pvp server like it used to be with the ganking and such, but no transfers to there. people have to start fresh on there and let it be a free for all, and of course making it known ahead of time and on the character select screen that it is a cut throat free for all pvp server and to enter at your own risk. I feel like that would breathe a little life into the game.
  • imo Aion did a pretty neat job with PVE/PVP map, lvls and game mechanics. I often wonder why that was/is not the rule.
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