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Again several rewards nerfed now 200 gold for 412

Really, why it was 1.2k and 900 gold for guardian mission now is 800 and 600, 412 was 300 gold now is 200 431 now 500 gold. Before 750 gold And 439 1.5k. Gold now

If you are trying to brute force people in to hard dugens how we can play the game againg if you alrrady nerferd silver talents and golden talents now more nerfs on gold. Make gearing even worse

Sad change for sure.
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  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gatokatzen wrote: »
    Really, why it was 1.2k and 900 gold for guardian mission now is 800 and 600, 412 was 300 gold now is 200 431 now 500 gold. Before 750 gold And 439 1.5k. Gold now

    If you are trying to brute force people in to hard dugens how we can play the game againg if you alrrady nerferd silver talents and golden talents now more nerfs on gold. Make gearing even worse

    Sad change for sure.

    We had an event before the merge that gave more gold on dungeons vanguard dailies. The event ended with the server merge.
  • Thats sad it cost almost 20000 gold for high jewelry per attemp, and 80000k waste for frost now gold was nerfed 60% thats bad
  • Damn.. Gotta do harder content or guardians to get gold now.. Bummer.

    Though I'm really liking that gold reward for the flying guardian VG.

    And if you think it's hard to get gold in this game, look at a game like guild wars 2, where I remember spending a little over 2-3 hours after finding a group/ raid to farm what seemed to be this game's equivalent of 5k gold.
    Btw that first part was sarcasm
  • walking1987walking1987 ✭✭
    edited September 2018
    The gold increased was because of event (50% more).
    Though the gold of lower tier dungeons decrease, but the mid-high tier increases.
    I actually like it better and make more gold than before..just run 439 and 446
  • clfarron4clfarron4 ✭✭✭✭
    @Gatokatzen EME didn't document the gold changes in this SSHM patch. Or the gear exp changes.

    Pleas see the following player documented addendum to the patch notes: https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/28793/item-exp-changes-with-september-13th-update#latest
  • The gold increased was because of event (50% more).

    I didn't even realize this was temporary cause I hadn't been doing them before. Are there still gold quest turn in boosts that would work on these?
  • I understand that hard content get more gold. But also remember spend x10 time.
    With 439 you may only focus on 2 characters and rest guardian forever.
    I am not talking only about gold also golden talents and silver are expensive.

    And all the gold is used to get more of those.
    Or enchant.
    Hope at least they reduce 60% the cost in gold from mid tier to stormcry if they do that all of us be happy.
  • SageWinduSageWindu High Seat of the Jedi Council ✭✭✭✭✭
    The gold increased was because of event (50% more).

    I didn't even realize this was temporary cause I hadn't been doing them before. Are there still gold quest turn in boosts that would work on these?

    Boosters don't work on Vanguards. Never did, in fact.
  • Gatokatzen wrote: »
    Hope at least they reduce 60% the cost in gold from mid tier to stormcry if they do that all of us be happy.

    Guardian and Twistshard costs were reduced. (Golden Talents, Gold. Twistshard also had the item xp lowered.) The first two upgrades of the accessories also had their silver talent and gold cost reduced.

    Come Frostmetal, everything seems to have remained the same, though by that point you're also in the range of the boosted vanguards.
    New Guardian Costs
    Weapon                 +1    +2    +3    +4    +5    +6    TS  Total
    Golden Talent           4     6     8     9    10    13     6     56
    Wood Scrap              7    11    12    16    23    33    11    113
    Archdevan Catalyst                                         49     49
    Gold                   69    97   117   146   190   267   401   1287
    
    
    Chest                  +1    +2    +3    +4    +5    +6    TS  Total
    Golden Talent           4     5     6     7     7     9     4     42
    Wood Scrap              5     7     9    11    16    24     8     80
    Archdevan Catalyst                                         35     35
    Gold                   48    71    84   104   136   190   283    916
    
    
    Hand Feet              +1    +2    +3    +4    +5    +6    TS  Total
    Golden Talent           3     4     4     6     6     7     3     33
    Wood Scrap              4     6     7     9    13    19     6     64
    Archdevan Catalyst                                         28     28
    Gold                   38    56    66    84   110   154   225    733
    
    
    Old Guardian Costs
    Weapon                 +1    +2    +3    +4    +5    +6    TS  Total
    Golden Talent           7     9    13    14    16    21     9     89  
    Wood Scrap              7    11    12    16    23    33    11    113
    Archdevan Catalyst                                         49     49
    Gold                  112   159   191   237   309   435   652   2095
    
    
    Chest                  +1    +2    +3    +4    +5    +6    TS  Total
    Golden Talent           6     8    10    11    11    14     6     66  
    Wood Scrap              5     7     9    11    16    24     8     80
    Archdevan Catalyst                                         35     35
    Gold                   78   116   136   170   221   310   460   1491
    
    
    Hand Feet              +1    +2    +3    +4    +5    +6    TS  Total
    Golden Talent           5     6     6    10    10    12     5     54  
    Wood Scrap              4     6     7     9    13    19     6     64
    Archdevan Catalyst                                         28     28
    Gold                   62    91   108   136   179   251   366   1193
    

    I only have a partial list for the Twistshard gear yet, because needing to pick which characters to dump and which to keep for the merge made me not very motivated to grind through yet another character's Twistshard upgrades to collect the data, sorry.
    New Twistshard Costs
    Weapon                 +1    +2    +3    +4    +5    +6    +7    +8    +9    FM  Total 
    Golden Talent          15                      20    20                               
    Polished Arunic Ore     4     6     7     8    11    15    20    25    34    10    140
    Archdevan Oil                                                                         
    Gold                  415                     804   994                               
    
    Chest                  +1    +2    +3    +4    +5    +6    +7    +8    +9    FM  Total 
    Golden Talent          11    12    13    13    15    15                               
    Polished Arunic Ore     3     4     4     6     8    11    14    18    24     6     98
    Archdevan Oil                                                                         
    Gold                  293   340   395   470   572   708                               
    
    
    Hand Feet              +1    +2    +3    +4    +5    +6    +7    +8    +9    FM  Total 
    Golden Talent           8     8     9    10    11    12                               
    Polished Arunic Ore     3     3     4     6     7     8    11    14    20     6     82
    Archdevan Oil                                                                         
    Gold                  238   272   320   375   463   565                               
    
    
    Old Twistshard Costs
    Weapon                 +1    +2    +3    +4    +5    +6    +7    +8    +9    FM  Total 
    Golden Talent          22    20    22    26    27    25    29    35    36     7    249
    Polished Arunic Ore     4     6     7     8    11    15    20    25    34    10    140
    Archdevan Oil                                                                14     14
    Gold                  549   621   738   873  1062  1314  1638  2070  2619  3393  14877
    
    Chest                  +1    +2    +3    +4    +5    +6    +7    +8    +9    FM  Total 
    Golden Talent          16    14    20    20    17    17    21    24    27     4    180
    Polished Arunic Ore     3     4     4     6     8    11    14    18    24     6     98
    Archdevan Oil                                                                11     11
    Gold                  387   450   522   621   756   936  1170  1476  1872  2496  10686
    
    
    Hand Feet              +1    +2    +3    +4    +5    +6    +7    +8    +9    FM  Total 
    Golden Talent          10    14    12    10    13    16    17    22    18     4    136
    Polished Arunic Ore     3     3     4     6     7     8    11    14    20     6     82
    Archdevan Oil                                                                 8      8
    Gold                  315   360   423   495   612   747   936  1179  1494  1896   8457
    
    


    Accessories
    New Costs
    Prospect Earring, Ring
    4 Golden Talents
    16 Metal Fragments
    91 Gold
    
    Guardian Belt, Prospect Circlet, Prospect Necklace, Brooch
    6 Silver Talents
    25 Metal Fragments
    139 Gold
    
    Old Costs
    Prospect Ring, Prospect Earring
    6 Silver Talents
    16 Metal Fragments
    148 Gold
    
    Guardian Belt, Parthian Brooch, Prospect Necklace, Prospect Circlet
    10 Silver Talents
    25 Metal Fragment
    226 Gold
    

    New Costs
    Bellum Earring, Ring
    12 Silver Talents
    8 Refined Elixirs
    691 Gold
    
    Brooch, Twistshard Belt, Bellum Necklace, Circlet
    17 Silver Talents
    12 Refined Elixirs
    985 Gold
    
    Old Costs
    Belium Earring, Belium Ring
    16 Silver Talents
    8 Refined Elixirs
    957 Gold
    
    Twistshard Belt, Brooch, Belium Necklace, Belium Circlet
    24 Silver Talents
    12 Refined Elixirs
    1365 Gold
    
  • Guardian gear is beyond useless should be removed and let twishard only , idoneal was superior by far. Mid tier now is frosmetal.
    should be reduced in cost. You need almost 200.000 gold for reach +7

    Imagine now that you cannot get that amount of gold in month, i am talking about casuals 4 or 3 hours per day.
    Seems unfair i know super players won milions and dont care about it. But for us a several reduction in gold for frost will be good.
  • Gatokatzen wrote: »
    Mid tier now is frosmetal.

    Then call it Frostmetal, please, rather than mid-tier. Don't assume that EME would know what the player base considers to be which tier in practice. I'm evidently not keeping up with it either. (I didn't post only the Twistshard changes because Guardian costs were reduced as well.)

    We keep blasting EME for being unclear in their communications, but this is just as bad for making sure they understand what it is that people want.
  • Thats also fault of the new gear system.

    Old system need 2 things alkahest and feedstook

    New need golden talents+craft in to darics
    Silver talents+craft in siglos.
    You need also both recipes thats 100.000gold for progress.

    Add now gems. You need play guardian mission to transform rubies in shappires and emeralds.
    Add 12000gold in recipes agains.
    You need almost 90 emeralds to reach mr stormcry.

    Need more pain add liqud metal and hypnotic device. Best way to get it is pvp credits.

    Still more pain yeah, now add gold tons of golds and failures.

    Want more pain of pain, yeah add item xp you need 80.000 and now you are forced to spend it every 24.000. Or cannot gain more.

    Then they nerfed gold and materials extending the process of 4 of 5 months in a year or more.

    How you can retain a player to keep playing this game,
    For 1 year just farming that made you get bored and leave. Also nerf the possiblity that new players reach 446 and help looking for groups. The number 1 issue with tera.
  • DvsvDvsv ✭✭✭✭
    Gatokatzen wrote: »
    Thats also fault of the new gear system.

    Old system need 2 things alkahest and feedstook

    New need golden talents+craft in to darics
    Silver talents+craft in siglos.
    You need also both recipes thats 100.000gold for progress.

    Add now gems. You need play guardian mission to transform rubies in shappires and emeralds.
    Add 12000gold in recipes agains.
    You need almost 90 emeralds to reach mr stormcry.

    Need more pain add liqud metal and hypnotic device. Best way to get it is pvp credits.

    Still more pain yeah, now add gold tons of golds and failures.

    Want more pain of pain, yeah add item xp you need 80.000 and now you are forced to spend it every 24.000. Or cannot gain more.

    Then they nerfed gold and materials extending the process of 4 of 5 months in a year or more.

    How you can retain a player to keep playing this game,
    For 1 year just farming that made you get bored and leave. Also nerf the possiblity that new players reach 446 and help looking for groups. The number 1 issue with tera.

    Wow, finally someone got it!
    And don't forget that they keep releasing gear each 6 months (just like the old times but 10x more expensive now ) and increasing item level req for new dungeons.
    That's why i don't consider even full FM +0 mid-tier anymore cuz you can't even get rewards for AANM (back in the old system Misery+12 was fine for VSHM!)
    Mid-tier now is 446 ilvl and soon, with the new HO+3 grindy patch, it'll be more like ~SC+7? lol
  • You aren't entitled to instant gratification with upgrading gear. Work your way up, everyone else with the best gear did, therefore you are able to.
  • Reading these threads has become quite amusing over the last 3 weeks. It is as if no one here has ever played Korean MMOs before. To those who are old school to their design philosophy this is not only nothing new, but Tera is actually exceptionally casual friendly in its design compared to the standard amounts of RNG Korean MMOs typically have.

    Regardless of what flaws there are or are perceived, the single greatest trait anyone who plays an asain MMO can have is patience.
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