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When are you removing xingcode?

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  • TsukasaKun wrote: »
    Hexagram wrote: »
    Gatokatzen wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    when you will remove tera from your computer ;)

    Nope xingcode remaining and still running , looking in your C process folder and looking for a process called xhunter1 even uninstalled xincode won’t leave

    FWIW, our implementation doesn't do that. Some other regions/games seem to.

    Answer to OP, of course, I expect never.

    Excalibre wrote: »
    Any ways to make it load faster? It takes 5 minutes to run so that I can get into the game.

    Serious answer would be: Is the game installed on an SSD? In that case it should load in less than 15 seconds.

    Sometimes things don't affect you but they do others.

    https://imgur.com/a/tQowmN1
    That's the day xigncode went live.

    What version of Windows are you running and what security configuration do you have on the account? Do you run the game with Admin rights?

    I've tried various things to reproduce this, but haven't seen it show up yet. Clearly there's some way, I guess.

    From what I understand, the initial release of Tera's xigncode (back when it was still in .pem) had an inconsistent chance of tossing xhunter1.sys and using it. The new bundled one... I'm not sure if that still installs/uses it. It seemed entirely random who did or didn't get xhunter1.sys before so it's difficult to be sure now.

    Yeah, that could easily explain why I can't reproduce it now, unless there's still some combination that does it.
  • Hexagram wrote: »
    Gatokatzen wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    when you will remove tera from your computer ;)

    Nope xingcode remaining and still running , looking in your C process folder and looking for a process called xhunter1 even uninstalled xincode won’t leave

    FWIW, our implementation doesn't do that. Some other regions/games seem to.

    Answer to OP, of course, I expect never.

    Excalibre wrote: »
    Any ways to make it load faster? It takes 5 minutes to run so that I can get into the game.

    Serious answer would be: Is the game installed on an SSD? In that case it should load in less than 15 seconds.

    Sometimes things don't affect you but they do others.

    https://imgur.com/a/tQowmN1
    That's the day xigncode went live.

    What version of Windows are you running and what security configuration do you have on the account? Do you run the game with Admin rights?

    I've tried various things to reproduce this, but haven't seen it show up yet. Clearly there's some way, I guess.

    It's windows 10 that was upgraded from 7. Security? mostly whatever microsoft catches real time, cloud delivered and automatic sample submission are on and avoiding phishing emails and shady websites. The game application called TL has admin rights in the tera folder.

  • edited October 2018
    Hexagram wrote: »
    Hexagram wrote: »
    Gatokatzen wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    when you will remove tera from your computer ;)

    Nope xingcode remaining and still running , looking in your C process folder and looking for a process called xhunter1 even uninstalled xincode won’t leave

    FWIW, our implementation doesn't do that. Some other regions/games seem to.

    Answer to OP, of course, I expect never.

    Excalibre wrote: »
    Any ways to make it load faster? It takes 5 minutes to run so that I can get into the game.

    Serious answer would be: Is the game installed on an SSD? In that case it should load in less than 15 seconds.

    Sometimes things don't affect you but they do others.

    https://imgur.com/a/tQowmN1
    That's the day xigncode went live.

    What version of Windows are you running and what security configuration do you have on the account? Do you run the game with Admin rights?

    I've tried various things to reproduce this, but haven't seen it show up yet. Clearly there's some way, I guess.

    It's windows 10 that was upgraded from 7. Security? mostly whatever microsoft catches real time, cloud delivered and automatic sample submission are on and avoiding phishing emails and shady websites. The game application called TL has admin rights in the tera folder.

    I guess maybe it's because of the admin rights? Or maybe it was just a quirk of the original version on launch day that since changed?

    I wonder what would happen if you tried just deleting the .sys file now and if you removed admin rights from TL.exe. Presumably it wouldn't be able to re-create itself, anyway. In general terms, anyway, it does not seem to be needed.
  • Excalibre wrote: »
    Any ways to make it load faster? It takes 5 minutes to run so that I can get into the game.

    I was going to say i feel your pain but now xigncode can take years and not load the game at all. Well i wanted to try the apex sorcerer but guess i won't.
  • Soffyasd wrote: »
    Excalibre wrote: »
    Any ways to make it load faster? It takes 5 minutes to run so that I can get into the game.

    I was going to say i feel your pain but now xigncode can take years and not load the game at all. Well i wanted to try the apex sorcerer but guess i won't.

    try it on EU, it's already released there and even if you have higher ping it's much more stable because their datacenter isn't complete garbage
  • HexagramHexagram ✭✭
    edited October 2018
    I deleted it, turned off admin priveledges for the client and it threw a game execution error saying the files may be corrupt. Re-enabled admin mode and it reinstalled the xhunter1 file as a weird quirk the game did seem to load faster with the new file as opposed to the constantly overwritten one.

    Sorry for late response was busy playing.

    As an aside, i would like to see it self purge itself when the game closes.
  • edited October 2018
    Hexagram wrote: »
    I deleted it, turned off admin priveledges for the client and it threw a game execution error saying the files may be corrupt. Re-enabled admin mode and it reinstalled the xhunter1 file as a weird quirk the game did seem to load faster with the new file as opposed to the constantly overwritten one.

    So weird. I'm sure there's some explanation, but I'm not sure at this point why it has different behaviour for different people.

    Hexagram wrote: »
    As an aside, i would like to see it self purge itself when the game closes.

    Yeah, in principle it could track if it created the file when launching and, if so, try to delete it upon closing. At least that way it won't automatically delete another game's version (if you have multiple Xigncode games).


    Edit: Okay, so I've figured part of it out, but not all of it. If you decide to run the launcher (and thus the game) as Administrator (approve the UAC prompt), it will install the file. By default, though, the game does not run as Administrator and does not ask for it, so it won't install the file. But, at least for me here, all I had to do was delete the file and then *not* start the Launcher as Administrator, and it was back to normal -- didn't throw any game execution error or talk about corrupt files, and no xhunter1.sys. So what I don't is why it's giving you this corrupt error in that case.

    Edit 2: Oh, maybe the reason it's giving the corrupt error isn't actually because of xhunter1.sys, but because it doesn't have permission to access some other required file because they were created with admin permissions. That might explain it. In general the moral of the story appears to be, if you don't want xhunter1.sys, never run the launcher as Admin. This probably also explains why K-TERA and J-TERA get the file, because their launcher is set to require Admin privileges (as BDO and BnS do).
  • tisnotmetisnotme ✭✭✭✭
    Hexagram wrote: »
    I deleted it, turned off admin priveledges for the client and it threw a game execution error saying the files may be corrupt. Re-enabled admin mode and it reinstalled the xhunter1 file as a weird quirk the game did seem to load faster with the new file as opposed to the constantly overwritten one.
    So weird. I'm sure there's some explanation, but I'm not sure at this point why it has different behaviour for different people.

    I have it , ive deleted it and it comes back
    I originally thought it was to do with Kritika as I think back when I joined that game they had the other version of Xingcode but ive not opened or updated that game in ages
  • tisnotme wrote: »
    Hexagram wrote: »
    I deleted it, turned off admin priveledges for the client and it threw a game execution error saying the files may be corrupt. Re-enabled admin mode and it reinstalled the xhunter1 file as a weird quirk the game did seem to load faster with the new file as opposed to the constantly overwritten one.
    So weird. I'm sure there's some explanation, but I'm not sure at this point why it has different behaviour for different people.

    I have it , ive deleted it and it comes back
    I originally thought it was to do with Kritika as I think back when I joined that game they had the other version of Xingcode but ive not opened or updated that game in ages

    Yeah, it seems like it recreates itself if you start the launcher as Admin, and other games that use XIGNCODE and start their launcher with Admin rights (BDO, BnS, etc.) will create it. But it is at least possible, under normal circumstances, to run the game without Admin rights, and then it won't install it. (When you install TERA via Steam, for example, it doesn't need Admin rights, and that should also be the case with the normal launcher install.) But when you've been running the game as Admin all this while, you might have to reset permissions on the files/folders to be able to back to non-Admin mode.
  • AVG Antivirus just updated and then Xingcode3 started to give a fatal error and not open the game anymore until i have disabled AVG completely.

  • HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
    AVG Antivirus just updated and then Xingcode3 started to give a fatal error and not open the game anymore until i have disabled AVG completely.

    xigncode walks like a virus, talks like a virus, acts like a virus, looks like a virus.. but it's okay it's not a virus! that's the eme guarantee!
  • HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
    AVG Antivirus just updated and then Xingcode3 started to give a fatal error and not open the game anymore until i have disabled AVG completely.

    It would be a far better idea to add TERA.exe to AVG's exceptions. You should never jump to disabling an anti-virus as a work-around. Especially on Windows. Especially with Windows 10.
  • TsukasaKun wrote: »
    HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
    AVG Antivirus just updated and then Xingcode3 started to give a fatal error and not open the game anymore until i have disabled AVG completely.

    It would be a far better idea to add TERA.exe to AVG's exceptions. You should never jump to disabling an anti-virus as a work-around. Especially on Windows. Especially with Windows 10.

    Solved.

    I remember having Tera as exception but somehow it was not there anymore ( actually, nothing that i knew was there anymore as exception ).

    Thanks.
  • seraphinushseraphinush ✭✭✭✭
    In general the moral of the story appears to be, if you don't want xhunter1.sys, never run the launcher as Admin.
    So i guess my other thread on xigncode does make a bit more sense now that we know xigncode3 is not being installed only because the launcher wasn't/isn't launched with adminstrator privileges .. and it would need to do so for it to work properly
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