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Players hindering others

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  • > @uuki said:
    > Yeah if you’re consistently getting kicked it’s very likely you’re not even trying to figure out why it’s happening.

    Not even, ppl.have been kicking pretty often to force unequalized gear (or remove an equalized player) to group with their friends. Unless youre a healer expect it to happen if youre not in SC.

    Anecdotal evidence of course.
  • PwhoopsPwhoops ✭✭✭
    > @Pwhoops said:
    > My point is that I’m a warrior in EQ gear, if you know anything about PvP you’d know that warrior is pretty bad at group PvP and I have yet to get kicked.

    Everyone’s experience isn’t yours. Just because you don’t get kicked ( because let’s be honest no one expects anything from a warrior ) doesn’t mean others aren’t for no reason.

    I should be getting kicked even more so if the reason were EQ. From my personal experience you either get kicked because of PvE crystals or because you pissed off the wrong person and now you've been "blacklisted" if you will, other than that, you're just running into a lot of bad luck.
  • yes it happen to me too until i realize the game. u contribute and show other u can help win the game. gear suck and u die too easy? play cap and do not feed or get caught. u snipe bam often? really good way not to be kicked. contribute to win and no one kick u but if u can easily be replace then u expect to be kicked. this is why healer are never kick or perma kicked. u can heal and use buff skill and cleanse? ok never kicked. you do not heal or only heal and never anything else? auto kick. there is always something u can do and u need to prove to others,.
  • Concerning crystals, as a community, we should seek to educate rather than condemn. I'm certain you already know that the high end player base is on the decline, so we should be supporting the new players because they don't have sufficient information otherwise. Concerning eq gear, this is not a reason to kick players. This comes back to encouraging new players to continue with the game. If this game doesn't make steps to bounce back soon, it will collapse. I have a feeling the community should be doing the most of what it can because eme hasn't done much. On a different note, veteran players don't visit the forum, aka, the ones that are kicking you are not seeing this.
  • voidyvoidy ✭✭✭✭✭
    Honestly, people are more sensitive to losing than ever before, thanks to how leaderboards are handled. Combine that with idiots queuing and AFKing at the entrance for their free talents, and you have a recipe for a lot of dumb people queuing BGs and dragging down their entire team. If they don't recognize your name then they'll probably kick ya. I know a guy, he had the FWC title on his alt. Changed his name and lost the title during the server merges, and suddenly he started getting kicked for no reason too.
  • SageWinduSageWindu High Seat of the Jedi Council ✭✭✭✭✭
    voidy wrote: »
    Honestly, people are more sensitive to losing than ever before, thanks to how leaderboards are handled. Combine that with idiots queuing and AFKing at the entrance for their free talents, and you have a recipe for a lot of dumb people queuing BGs and dragging down their entire team. If they don't recognize your name then they'll probably kick ya. I know a guy, he had the FWC title on his alt. Changed his name and lost the title during the server merges, and suddenly he started getting kicked for no reason too.

    There are many people - gamers or otherwise - who hate losing more than they like winning.
  • I never said it’s not happening. I’m fully aware of random kicks, and evidently I vote no when it happens, I’m just saying from my experience it’s mostly what I’ve explained in my previous posts.
  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    uuki wrote: »
    I never said it was justified, but if what you’re saying is true then I can only think of two things
    Every sync has a specific problem with you
    U just unlucky as hell

    Either way the only fix to that problem is to keep queueing till you’re good enough for people to recognize u and not kick u

    I don't think there's such a thing when it comes to sync queues.
  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pwhoops wrote: »
    My point is that I’m a warrior in EQ gear, if you know anything about PvP you’d know that warrior is pretty bad at group PvP and I have yet to get kicked.

    Sounds like a time frame issue. One plays FWC on the sync hours, you play on the chill guys hours. It's the same as when I said that AV's population was basically the same as all other servers, because at those specific random times I was in, it really was. The random people spread through the world playing on random time zones in NA's servers, were pretty decently averaged around at least AV and TR, sometimes random logged into MT and all the same too.

    At least that would be my bet, you two play in different time zones and then meet different types of players.
  • > @homiesan said:
    On a different note, veteran players don't visit the forum, aka, the ones that are kicking you are not seeing this.

    Which is so unfortunate. The forums are here for a reason. As a Vet, I come here just to stay up to date with what’s really going on in Tera. This is where you see the actual unfiltered experience of the players.
  • make sync queue urself with lots and lots of people
  • PwhoopsPwhoops ✭✭✭
    ElinLove wrote: »
    Pwhoops wrote: »
    My point is that I’m a warrior in EQ gear, if you know anything about PvP you’d know that warrior is pretty bad at group PvP and I have yet to get kicked.

    Sounds like a time frame issue. One plays FWC on the sync hours, you play on the chill guys hours. It's the same as when I said that AV's population was basically the same as all other servers, because at those specific random times I was in, it really was. The random people spread through the world playing on random time zones in NA's servers, were pretty decently averaged around at least AV and TR, sometimes random logged into MT and all the same too.

    At least that would be my bet, you two play in different time zones and then meet different types of players.

    That has nothing to do with EQ gear though, it's just bad luck that OP is queuing at a time when people are trying to sync.
  • > @ElinLove said:
    > uuki wrote: »
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    > I never said it was justified, but if what you’re saying is true then I can only think of two things
    > Every sync has a specific problem with you
    > U just unlucky as hell
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    > Either way the only fix to that problem is to keep queueing till you’re good enough for people to recognize u and not kick u
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    > I don't think there's such a thing when it comes to sync queues.

    ??? You don’t think there’s such a what
  • OP post your K/D, guarantee it's heavy feeding

  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    uuki wrote: »
    > ElinLove said:
    > uuki wrote: »
    >
    > I never said it was justified, but if what you’re saying is true then I can only think of two things
    > Every sync has a specific problem with you
    > U just unlucky as hell
    >
    > Either way the only fix to that problem is to keep queueing till you’re good enough for people to recognize u and not kick u
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    > I don't think there's such a thing when it comes to sync queues.

    ??? You don’t think there’s such a what

    Such a thing as " till you’re good enough for people to recognize u and not kick u". They don't recognize you, they don't acknowledge your existence other than feed material on enemy side, or kick material on their side. They don't want someone good with them, they want their own guildies getting the points ONLY, and not anyone else together.
    They're not playing together with anyone other than their guild, they behave like the servers are their particular toy and all the rest are their toys as well, or get out and don't bother my fun.

    We're dealing with scum here not proper players and acknowledging one's feats.


    As a personal experience I can easily say as well that back when I did play FWC, I didn't get kicked for being EQ or barely non-EQ (at that time it was Slaughter gear I think), probably since I did contribute decently, even when I was at the bottom of the rank (I do suck somewhat but bottom of the bottom was rare too, once I even got 1st yay!), I didn't get kicked because I was doing stuff properly, like going to the call points and such, using PVP crystals and capping pyres when called to, BUT, those were indeed different times and I did see more random "kick EQ" than I wanted to even during those days, which got progressively worse on my experience. I did decline all the time and guess what? The oh-so-pros gave up always when they didn't get their way.
    That last thing is a good note: they just throw tantrums until they get it their way, and now these scum ones found a way to force their way.

    The problem with this thread is that part of the people on the here think we're dealing with good players that do have a reason to kick, part has a hunch that it's the scum ones we're dealing with, and we can't reach an agreement on that.
    Pwhoops wrote: »
    ElinLove wrote: »
    Pwhoops wrote: »
    My point is that I’m a warrior in EQ gear, if you know anything about PvP you’d know that warrior is pretty bad at group PvP and I have yet to get kicked.

    Sounds like a time frame issue. One plays FWC on the sync hours, you play on the chill guys hours. It's the same as when I said that AV's population was basically the same as all other servers, because at those specific random times I was in, it really was. The random people spread through the world playing on random time zones in NA's servers, were pretty decently averaged around at least AV and TR, sometimes random logged into MT and all the same too.

    At least that would be my bet, you two play in different time zones and then meet different types of players.

    That has nothing to do with EQ gear though, it's just bad luck that OP is queuing at a time when people are trying to sync.

    I will agree to that, they use EQ as an excuse when it's just their stupid "my way or no way" mode instead. This does shift somewhat the point, in that those syncs should be dealt with, as they're frankly just cancerous and the ACTUAL thing killing PVP way more than imbalance or ping issues.
    After all you can play badly with bad balance and ping issues, but you just can't play at all with a sync targeting you and kicking on sight.
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