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The issue with the zero listing fee is that it makes Elite required for selling expensive costumes. It means that if you don't have Elite, and open up a Elin Garment Box or something and got a dyeable pixie worth 750k, your excitement basically turns to horror when you realize you can't sell the damned thing because someone with Elite can always flip prices and undercut you whenever, and you can't undercut them back because it costs you like 38k gold to do so. For a new player, having to buy Elite just to sell a costume is incredibly off-putting and makes the game seem more exploitative than it already is.
It's something you don't really realize until you actually break your subscription and start experiencing what it's like for players that don't have it. I know a lot of us have the $10 elite offer from a long time ago and don't want to discontinue it, but it's really hard to emphasize for the actual little guys until you do so. And yeah, sure, it does make Elite valuable, but I disagree with any optional subscription services that quite literally is "if you don't get this you're screwed (for selling expensive stuff)" rather than a lot of convenience features like it is now.
where are those expensive listed items now then?
> where are those expensive listed items now then?
In the hands of hoarders like yourself, of course ;p.
Did you actually read my post?
Your post implied that having people undercut without drawbacks was discouraging non-elite players from listing their expensive items.
> where are those expensive listed items now then?
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> Your post implied that having people undercut without drawbacks was discouraging non-elite players from listing their expensive items.
Yeah, and I figured you meant the general lack of supply, since you of all people know that it can take a long time for prices and matters to adjust. Vanguard's release had a month or two of arbitrage opportunities before the market fully adjusted.
There are few new players in TERA due to all of EME's other policies, and they generally don't have high listing rates, so of course the supply isn't going to go back to before. That said, we'll need at least a few more weeks for people to get used to the shock to see what the long-term impacts actually are.
And I did state in my first sentence that no broker fees for everyone is the ideal condition. I stand by this in place of making it elite only and driving more new players away to EU.
Nah the supply is definitely there but people (both elite and non-elite) are just heavily discouraged from listing expensive items on the broker. Instead it's become a game of "I hope I can catch the buyer/seller online while I spam for hours on end instead of actually playing the game". It's very obvious when looking at things like flying mounts, stormcry, rng-win items where their listed quantity has significantly decreased (10+ pages of stormcry to 1-2 now, 10+ pages of flying mounts to even just 5 listed now on kaiator lmao). As such, I ask again why aren't the non-elites (and even elites for that matter now since everyone is paying a fee) listing their stuff now since they don't have to fear constant undercut? This will not improve in the future simply because not many people want to risk their items not selling on the broker and losing their listing fee.
No listing fee is of course the ideal solution but I still strongly believe that the previous (elite only) is infinitely better than it is now because with a mandatory listing fee, 75%+ of the items on the broker aren't even listed anymore (seriously, just compare broad categories of items before/after the change; for example elin costumes had 100+ pages before and now it's like 20) and most items that are still listed have actually gone up 25%+ in price. I have to admit though it's pretty fun undercutting people now and making them actually lose gold and changing item prices due to lack of competition so I guess there's that.