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Once again "Player Feedback" denied us things we can get.

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  • counterpointcounterpoint mod
    edited May 2019
    Mythologique wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    Mythologique wrote: »
    66ECX7NAN7 wrote: »
    In the gameforge version of the patch notes it says you trade the tokens for chests that contain a random item that may not be usable by your character's race or gender, maybe some players thought that was stupid?

    ...so instead of giving players a system to race/gender change their own costumes, we just get to recycle our old stuff that we worked hard for but got cheated out of by cutbacks on customer support, into literal junk?

    what

    Keep in mind: until very recently, no other region in the world actually ever offered costume race changes. EU did it one time recently as part of a special event. In our region, EME does still offer this as a once/year service.

    This system is part of the global game that all regions get, including most of the regions that have never had any way at all to do anything with cosmetics they no longer want.

    That doesn't mean it's not a bad system. My understanding is that our ability to have costumes swapped on NA was removed because it was being abused by players who would race change multiple times a month and ask for everything they had to be swapped on each occasion, taking up support's valuable time. That was also a bad system.

    Yeah, and that's why now they just do it as a once/year service instead.

    I'm not a fan of the RNG conversion system, so I just won't use it. But I don't think it was like "we did this instead of allowing people to costume change at will." The political barrier to getting them to implement something like that is infinitely higher.
  • MythologiqueMythologique ✭✭
    counterpoint wrote: »
    Mythologique wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    Mythologique wrote: »
    66ECX7NAN7 wrote: »
    In the gameforge version of the patch notes it says you trade the tokens for chests that contain a random item that may not be usable by your character's race or gender, maybe some players thought that was stupid?

    ...so instead of giving players a system to race/gender change their own costumes, we just get to recycle our old stuff that we worked hard for but got cheated out of by cutbacks on customer support, into literal junk?

    what

    Keep in mind: until very recently, no other region in the world actually ever offered costume race changes. EU did it one time recently as part of a special event. In our region, EME does still offer this as a once/year service.

    This system is part of the global game that all regions get, including most of the regions that have never had any way at all to do anything with cosmetics they no longer want.

    That doesn't mean it's not a bad system. My understanding is that our ability to have costumes swapped on NA was removed because it was being abused by players who would race change multiple times a month and ask for everything they had to be swapped on each occasion, taking up support's valuable time. That was also a bad system.

    Yeah, and that's why now they just do it as a once/year service instead.

    I'm not a fan of the RNG conversion system, so I just won't use it. But I don't think it was like "we did this instead of allowing people to costume change at will." The political barrier to getting them to implement something like that is infinitely higher.

    Same, it just makes me sad that the potential for an exchange service using tokens from dismantled costumes to buy bound smart boxes has to go to waste. It would make a lot of people very happy.
  • TheCatalystTheCatalyst ✭✭✭
    Mythologique wrote: »
    Same, it just makes me sad that the potential for an exchange service using tokens from dismantled costumes to buy bound smart boxes has to go to waste. It would make a lot of people very happy.

    Its not gonna go to waste.
    They said they gonna open them back.. soon. TM.
    So now its up to bhs to fix whatever problem that causing eu tera to rollback in panic.
    But dont hold yer breath tho..
  • toofaceddivatoofaceddiva ✭✭
    They are doing this because NA players have a habbit of exploiting well..everything. Personally, I think they should make the smart box's out of the token shops none tradable *Shrug*
  • MythologiqueMythologique ✭✭
    TheCatalyst wrote: »
    Mythologique wrote: »
    Same, it just makes me sad that the potential for an exchange service using tokens from dismantled costumes to buy bound smart boxes has to go to waste. It would make a lot of people very happy.

    Its not gonna go to waste.
    They said they gonna open them back.. soon. TM.
    So now its up to bhs to fix whatever problem that causing eu tera to rollback in panic.
    But dont hold yer breath tho..

    I'm not complaining about the lack of anything to buy with tokens.

    I'm suggesting that the token shop should have bound smart boxes for most costumes excluding the super rare ones, as a solution to the costume swap problem. That way someone can dismantle their dyeable business suit into tokens, buy back the smart box for it and open it after they race/gender change. This is what I would love to see - but it's more than likely not going to happen, hence it's wasted potential.
  • toofaceddivatoofaceddiva ✭✭
    TheCatalyst wrote: »
    Mythologique wrote: »
    Same, it just makes me sad that the potential for an exchange service using tokens from dismantled costumes to buy bound smart boxes has to go to waste. It would make a lot of people very happy.

    Its not gonna go to waste.
    They said they gonna open them back.. soon. TM.
    So now its up to bhs to fix whatever problem that causing eu tera to rollback in panic.
    But dont hold yer breath tho..

    EU rolled back because items that were supposed to be able to be dismantled, weren't also they rolled back due to all pet's losing their skills ( Pets that could loot no longer could loot) It didn't really have anything to do with the economy there.
  • TheCatalystTheCatalyst ✭✭✭
    Mythologique wrote: »
    I'm not complaining about the lack of anything to buy with tokens.

    I'm suggesting that the token shop should have bound smart boxes for most costumes excluding the super rare ones, as a solution to the costume swap problem. That way someone can dismantle their dyeable business suit into tokens, buy back the smart box for it and open it after they race/gender change. This is what I would love to see - but it's more than likely not going to happen, hence it's wasted potential.

    I wasn't accusing u of anything..
    toofaceddiva wrote: »
    EU rolled back because items that were supposed to be able to be dismantled, weren't also they rolled back due to all pet's losing their skills ( Pets that could loot no longer could loot) It didn't really have anything to do with the economy there.

    I didnt say anything about economy...

    :smiley:
  • MythologiqueMythologique ✭✭
    edited May 2019
    TheCatalyst wrote: »
    Mythologique wrote: »
    I'm not complaining about the lack of anything to buy with tokens.

    I'm suggesting that the token shop should have bound smart boxes for most costumes excluding the super rare ones, as a solution to the costume swap problem. That way someone can dismantle their dyeable business suit into tokens, buy back the smart box for it and open it after they race/gender change. This is what I would love to see - but it's more than likely not going to happen, hence it's wasted potential.

    I wasn't accusing u of anything..

    Didn't say you were, just pointing out you didn't really read my post.

    I'm just confused why you'd say "it's not going to waste" and they'll "open them back soon" (I don't know what this means) when direct costume swapping is never going to be a regular thing, and the only thing that can be put "back" into the token shop is a box I don't care for.
  • TheCatalystTheCatalyst ✭✭✭
    Mythologique wrote: »
    Didn't say you were, just pointing out you didn't really read my post.

    I'm just confused why you'd say "it's not going to waste" and they'll "open them back soon" (I don't know what this means) when direct costume swapping is never going to be a regular thing, and the only thing that can be put "back" into the token shop is a box I don't care for.

    Then I'm not the one who is not reading. Because I wasn't confused and didn't know what this and that means.
    And also, i didn't accuse u of anything too..

    All i did was responding to your post, as in, let us see what this shop gonna look like after the fix, because they are being disabled right now and changes are being made, maybe, but lets not get our hopes high. Coz we all know EME. And your 'suggestion' is not the original state of the token shop. So, its not going to waste.
  • LilienetteLilienette ✭✭
    toofaceddiva wrote: »
    They are doing this because NA players have a habbit of exploiting well..everything. Personally, I think they should make the smart box's out of the token shops none tradable *Shrug*

    I wouldn't say NA players blanketly. "Some", not all.
  • SageWinduSageWindu High Seat of the Jedi Council ✭✭✭✭✭
    They couldn't just put in an item similar to liberation scrolls that works for cosmetics? Hell, make 2 versions - one that's just a simple unbind and another, more expensive option that completely reverts the item back into a box/skill book/whatever.

    But alas, here we are once again with a hilariously complicated option that broke before it could actually be used.
  • MythologiqueMythologique ✭✭
    edited May 2019
    TheCatalyst wrote: »
    Mythologique wrote: »
    Didn't say you were, just pointing out you didn't really read my post.

    I'm just confused why you'd say "it's not going to waste" and they'll "open them back soon" (I don't know what this means) when direct costume swapping is never going to be a regular thing, and the only thing that can be put "back" into the token shop is a box I don't care for.

    Then I'm not the one who is not reading. Because I wasn't confused and didn't know what this and that means.
    And also, i didn't accuse u of anything too..

    It's my fault that your statement is ambiguous and hard as hell to read? "Open them back" isn't a grammatically-correct or relevant sentence any way you look at it in this context.

    TheCatalyst wrote: »
    All i did was responding to your post, as in, let us see what this shop gonna look like after the fix, because they are being disabled right now and changes are being made, maybe, but lets not get our hopes high. Coz we all know EME. And your 'suggestion' is not the original state of the token shop. So, its not going to waste.

    I am as equally aware of the fact they're 'fixing' the shop as I am that they're not going to take the suggestion on board, so I fail to see the point of anything you've said thus far.

    This conversation is stupid.
  • ChristinChristin ✭✭✭✭
    toofaceddiva wrote: »
    TheCatalyst wrote: »
    Mythologique wrote: »
    Same, it just makes me sad that the potential for an exchange service using tokens from dismantled costumes to buy bound smart boxes has to go to waste. It would make a lot of people very happy.

    Its not gonna go to waste.
    They said they gonna open them back.. soon. TM.
    So now its up to bhs to fix whatever problem that causing eu tera to rollback in panic.
    But dont hold yer breath tho..

    EU rolled back because items that were supposed to be able to be dismantled, weren't also they rolled back due to all pet's losing their skills ( Pets that could loot no longer could loot) It didn't really have anything to do with the economy there.

    I'd say BHS has a way of exploiting everything. They're systematically turning everything into RNG even the stuff we've already spent money on. Oh, they spent money on pets, lets RNG all that. Oh, they've spent money on costumes, lets RNG that to. This whole game is turning into one big gambling system. I hate to deal with RNG, but here I am wasting my time and loads of gold on these stupid partner pets. It's just a nightmare and way for BHS to kind of dip into people's investment in the game. Hey, take those 10 outfits you worked hard for and throw them into an RNG pot for a small chance at something better. ugh.
  • ChristinChristin ✭✭✭✭
    castanicpriest wrote: »
    Does anyone know this token shop can potentially have in the storage?

    It is nice to dismantle some old stuff that we never used anymore but for what purpose? Are we going to be able to get anything interesting?

    Just read. You dismantle outfits into tokens that you use for boxes to RNG for a random outfit (might not even be for that character).
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