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SO EU is now able to buy adventure coins with VG Credits

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  • EJECWCWG55EJECWCWG55 ✭✭✭
    edited May 2019
    Maybe we are going to get an increase of adventure coins needed to get into dungeons... you know how this works, while other regions get more and more free stuff to keep them playing the game we get less and less free stuff and get ripped from what we get from the game to force us playing the game if we want to get back what we had.
  • dragonmu12dragonmu12 Israel ✭✭✭
    edited May 2019
    Yea i saw That Eme need to act i swear to god gameforge in the past 2 years did like 300% better then Eme,Eme you Slowly Kill ur game.
    People here:
    https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/31568/eme-there-is-stuff-that-needs-to-be-addressed#latest

    and here:
    https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/31601/concerns-on-current-game-state-and-some-proposed-solutions-pve-specific

    and here:
    https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/31607/i-mean#latest

    Complaining and you still Silent! wtf is going on EME? there is Massive problems that need to be addressed and ur not doing anything to solve them While GAMEFORGE Doing Alot better then you on every aspect!.
  • EJECWCWG55EJECWCWG55 ✭✭✭
    edited May 2019
    dragonmu12 wrote: »
    Yea i saw That Eme need to act i swear to god gameforge in the past 2 years did like 300% better then Eme,Eme you Slowly Kill ur game.
    People here:
    https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/31568/eme-there-is-stuff-that-needs-to-be-addressed#latest

    and here:
    https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/31601/concerns-on-current-game-state-and-some-proposed-solutions-pve-specific

    and here:
    https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/31607/i-mean#latest

    Complaining and you still Silent! wtf is going on EME? there is Massive problems that need to be addressed and ur not doing anything to solve them While GAMEFORGE Doing Alot better then you on every aspect!.

    From http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/this-week-in-tera-pc-may-20-26

    "New Sales Item
    Haste Coins become available in the TERA Store, starting Tuesday, May 21.

    Note that, in addition to the Haste Coins available in the TERA Store, there will be a version of the Haste Coin available in the Vanguard Initiative shop."

    Btw @dragonmu12 EU version is doing really bad too, not even the small solutions they implement there is stoping the massive lost of players they had in this year. If its true that their PvE server has slightly more population than NA, however their PvP server has less population than ours.

    You can read their forums and look at their continuos complains about how dead their game is over there too.

    This is a developer issue and one that needs to be confronted by the publishers with a firm stance but it looks they dont care at all.
  • dragonmu12dragonmu12 Israel ✭✭✭
    EJECWCWG55 wrote: »
    dragonmu12 wrote: »
    Yea i saw That Eme need to act i swear to god gameforge in the past 2 years did like 300% better then Eme,Eme you Slowly Kill ur game.
    People here:
    https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/31568/eme-there-is-stuff-that-needs-to-be-addressed#latest

    and here:
    https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/31601/concerns-on-current-game-state-and-some-proposed-solutions-pve-specific

    and here:
    https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/31607/i-mean#latest

    Complaining and you still Silent! wtf is going on EME? there is Massive problems that need to be addressed and ur not doing anything to solve them While GAMEFORGE Doing Alot better then you on every aspect!.

    From http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/this-week-in-tera-pc-may-20-26

    "New Sales Item
    Haste Coins become available in the TERA Store, starting Tuesday, May 21.

    Note that, in addition to the Haste Coins available in the TERA Store, there will be a version of the Haste Coin available in the Vanguard Initiative shop."

    Haste Coins is not enough. gameforge understand that and change it to 100 coins directly EME Dont add Ur useless Haste coin add the 100 Adventure Coins Refill Directly!.
  • > @EJECWCWG55 said:
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    > Btw @dragonmu12 EU version is doing really bad too, not even the small solutions they implement there is stoping the massive lost of players they had in this year. If its true that their PvE server has slightly more population than NA, however their PvP server has less population than ours.
    >
    > You can read their forums and look at their continuos complains about how dead their game is over there too.
    >
    > This is a developer issue and one that needs to be confronted by the publishers with a firm stance but it looks they dont care at all.

    Exactly this.

    As the proveb goes, the grass always seems greener on someone else's side.

    Let's play a little game... I'll provide some quotes from Tera forums and you try to guess which came from the EME boards vs which are from the Gameforge boards.

    1. "This is not helping the game, it's killing it... Literally every single decision u took in the last few months ruined this game more and more... WAKE UP"

    2. "In the end I just feel like [publisher] is just trying to make money without caring about the community, knowing they are killing the game and making short-term profit with the idea of closing the game soon or later."

    3. "people are wasting millions of gold for +6 gear (check out [another user]'s thread) and its not only the gold issue.. also the plates, you get 1 or 3 per box (if you're lucky 10 or 100 and if you're super SUPER LUCKY you get 1000x) but its like another 300k blown into the sands...

    ITS TIME TO CHANGE SOMETHING OR THIS GAME WILL BE COMPLETELY DEAD SOON!"

    4. "Nice event, it would be better if we could run more than 4 dungeons a day.
    Oh forgive me, they can always throw some [money] at your shop to get more coins, I forgot about that."





    So which do you think come from the EME message boards?

    In truth my question was a misdirect. All of these comments came from Gameforge threads.

    The first comes from this thread on the broker fees:
    https://board.tera.gameforge.com/index.php?thread/75447-broker-fee/

    The 2nd through 4th came from the EU thread already shared on this forum.
    https://board.tera.gameforge.com/index.php?thread/75979-another-useless-ranting-about-tera-current-state/

    They make an interesting read, because you see the very same criticisms echoed through the looking glass. Comments about how the publisher doesn't care enough to respond? Check. Publisher accused of being lazy, greedy and incompetent? Check. Players upset about xp grind, companion system, limited pet slots, enchanting, adventure coins, lack of new content, removing dungeons, loss of etching materials and the rest? All there. Hell, there are even complaints about the lack of golden talents/darics/plates. They have more access to those than we do and it's still not enough for the crazy enchanting costs.

    There's even some "grass is greener" going on in EU, with complaints that other regions have advantages (like NA giving much more xp) while they get nothing.

    In the NA we're like, "oh man EU gets more events" meanwhile players in the EU are like, "why do they keep giving us [filtered] p2w events instead of fixing the game?"

    The biggest difference is probably that Gameforge is less tolerant of criticism such that they censor and delete a lot of posts. EME may close threads, but they're not outright deleting comments. Gameforge may respond with a platitude, but they are also pro-censorship.

    But really, the problems all stem from Bluehole/Krafton. Since I think EME is technically still owned by Krafton I'm not sure how much say they actually get.
  • dragonmu12dragonmu12 Israel ✭✭✭
    @KFGRWRD3XH @EJECWCWG55
    Im absolutely Agree With you that Eme>Gameforge Still, And gameforge events are p2w,but eme in the past year didnt listen much as well on some of the aspects Like golden talents,and now there is 2 more problems the adventure coins and Titan earth/storm i still believe in eme that they will fix that 3 problems atleast.
  • Consider: EME's new money pot is console.
  • Haste Coins is not enough. gameforge understand that and change it to 100 coins directly EME Dont add Ur useless Haste coin add the 100 Adventure Coins Refill Directly!.

    Back to school for you with your [filtered] poor grammar son!
  • TJKatTJKat ✭✭✭
    Consider: EME's new money pot is console.

    I'm not so sure about that. Consoles are having their servers merged Monday and there's discussion about further merging into a single global server for each console. That doesn't exactly scream cash-cow.
  • ChristinChristin ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2019
    TJKat wrote: »
    Consider: EME's new money pot is console.

    I'm not so sure about that. Consoles are having their servers merged Monday and there's discussion about further merging into a single global server for each console. That doesn't exactly scream cash-cow.

    Pretty sad seeing as how console hasn't been out for really that long.

    Anything that lets people run more dungeons should be encouraged in the game. If people want to farm all day, let them. You'll get less complaints about dungeons popping etc.
  • voidyvoidy ✭✭✭✭✭
    Main difference between publishers is we have documented proof of gameforge implementing changes that help their player base. EME meanwhile, doesn't even communicate with their players. There's "grass is always greener" and then there's "the neighbor's lawn has grass, and our lawn is actually on fire and the home owner won't come outside to do something about it."

    Also to whoever said EME doesn't delete posts, you're right! They let their community volunteers do that instead. ;)
  • tisnotmetisnotme ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2019
    still recon like i said before
    they needed to do cross platform play
    but Xbox n Playstation cant (wont)
  • edited May 2019
    voidy wrote: »
    Also to whoever said EME doesn't delete posts, you're right! They let their community volunteers do that instead. ;)

    Hey, for what it's worth... Gameforge also uses community moderators. (And, as the tracker will attest, posts are basically never deleted here. Usually only as a result of a merge, or outright spam. Please don't this as an invitation to create content that has to be deleted, though...)
  • voidyvoidy ✭✭✭✭✭
    voidy wrote: »
    Also to whoever said EME doesn't delete posts, you're right! They let their community volunteers do that instead. ;)

    Hey, for what it's worth... Gameforge also uses community moderators. (And, as the tracker will attest, posts are basically never deleted here. Usually only as a result of a merge, or outright spam.)

    There is a massive difference between using community moderators in addition to staff communication, and using community moderators as a substitute for staff engagement. Players notice when the staff don't reply, and it's why most of the people left in these forums are people who write unintelligible nonsense and word diarrhea while defending EME with flimsy logic and insulting excuses. All the rational people left because they see that EME's remaining staff are too busy fixing the dishwasher to reply to their own community.

    Also finding it dreadfully ironic that we're sitting here talking about how "posts are basically never deleted" when we had a conversation last month that directly contradicts that notion. You can call my reply a direct attack all you like, but a typical whiteknight saying "just don't use the broker" in response to a genuine critique about the brokerage deserves to be laughed out of the room. So you delete posts that you personally deem attacks. Which is fine! EME handed you that responsibility, so go nuts. But it flies in the face of your argument.
  • edited May 2019
    voidy wrote: »
    You can call my reply a direct attack all you like, but a typical whiteknight saying "just don't use the broker" in response to a genuine critique about the brokerage deserves to be laughed out of the room. So you delete posts that you personally deem attacks. Which is fine! EME handed you that responsibility, so go nuts. But it flies in the face of your argument.

    That post is absolutely, unarguably a personal attack, and I did say "basically never." The context of the conversation is criticism of the company and its decisions, which this forum has in abundance.

    (This is exactly why I added not to take this as an invitation to post things that would have to be deleted, but thanks for the perfect example...)
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