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Slayer's average dps

edited June 2016 in PvE Discussion
Hi.
I'd like to ask what is average Slayer dmg/s in Slaughter set with max crit chance (this is the best way to play him isn't it?)
I make a comparison between Slayer Warrior and Ninja but as far as I did Ninja and Warr Slaughter set I'm too lazy to carry Slayer to 65 and do Slaughter set for him.
Would it be somewhere around 400k/s?

Comments

  • ZereaZerea ✭✭
    First off. Dps/s? Damage per second/per second?

    Secondly-What boss? What party composition? Were endurance debuffs kept up constantly? Constant energy stars? Mystic in party? Double healer? Do you have all your glyphs? What consumables are being used? Nocteniums? Canephora? Food buffs? Bravery? Was it a bad run with no crits? Was it a good run with lots of crits? Are you good?

    All of these majorly factor into "expected" DPS. Particularly that last one.

    But more importantly than just giving you a number to shoot for, just focus on your dps relative to the other members in your party. If there's only 50-100k or less separating you from most of the other party members, you're probably doing just fine. Find out what other DPS classes are running +12 Slaughter so you know you have equal gear and compare your DPS. If another class in Slaughter is majorly outdpsing you, like two or three times your DPS, then you're probably doing stuff wrong and should look into it. Some classes will outdps you more than others, based on personal player skill and the strength of the class itself.

    A good stat to look into is the percentage of boss damage you did. If you're doing less than 10% of the boss's HP every fight, you need to step it up a notch.

    Above all, focus on improving yourself. Record yourself if it helps and watch it back, always keep a meter running so you know how you're doing. Get a feel for your usual DPS on certain bosses.

    And don't be a tool and mock others for low dps. It's a game, not a competition.
  • Zerea wrote: »
    First off. Dps/s? Damage per second/per second?

    Secondly-What boss? What party composition? Were endurance debuffs kept up constantly? Constant energy stars? Mystic in party? Double healer? Do you have all your glyphs? What consumables are being used? Nocteniums? Canephora? Food buffs? Bravery? Was it a bad run with no crits? Was it a good run with lots of crits? Are you good?

    All of these majorly factor into "expected" DPS. Particularly that last one.

    But more importantly than just giving you a number to shoot for, just focus on your dps relative to the other members in your party. If there's only 50-100k or less separating you from most of the other party members, you're probably doing just fine. Find out what other DPS classes are running +12 Slaughter so you know you have equal gear and compare your DPS. If another class in Slaughter is majorly outdpsing you, like two or three times your DPS, then you're probably doing stuff wrong and should look into it. Some classes will outdps you more than others, based on personal player skill and the strength of the class itself.

    A good stat to look into is the percentage of boss damage you did. If you're doing less than 10% of the boss's HP every fight, you need to step it up a notch.

    Above all, focus on improving yourself. Record yourself if it helps and watch it back, always keep a meter running so you know how you're doing. Get a feel for your usual DPS on certain bosses.

    And don't be a tool and mock others for low dps. It's a game, not a competition.

    Hope u got orgasm when u blamed me I wrote dps/s meaning dmg/s. Such wow.
    If i used any consumables i would inform don't you think? And i asked about average. Not best dps. Ffs why all of you have to be so rude. I asked for dps of Slayer itself. Alone. Without extra consumables apart from standard niveots, charms and max crit as i mentioned.
  • PixelatorPixelator ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    400k/s is meh. Even for stuff like Nightmare Dakuryon/Imperator.

    For other bosses, mediocre Slayers should be dealing at least double that.
  • ZereaZerea ✭✭
    edited June 2016
    saddsasd wrote: »
    Zerea wrote: »
    First off. Dps/s? Damage per second/per second?

    Secondly-What boss? What party composition? Were endurance debuffs kept up constantly? Constant energy stars? Mystic in party? Double healer? Do you have all your glyphs? What consumables are being used? Nocteniums? Canephora? Food buffs? Bravery? Was it a bad run with no crits? Was it a good run with lots of crits? Are you good?

    All of these majorly factor into "expected" DPS. Particularly that last one.

    But more importantly than just giving you a number to shoot for, just focus on your dps relative to the other members in your party. If there's only 50-100k or less separating you from most of the other party members, you're probably doing just fine. Find out what other DPS classes are running +12 Slaughter so you know you have equal gear and compare your DPS. If another class in Slaughter is majorly outdpsing you, like two or three times your DPS, then you're probably doing stuff wrong and should look into it. Some classes will outdps you more than others, based on personal player skill and the strength of the class itself.

    A good stat to look into is the percentage of boss damage you did. If you're doing less than 10% of the boss's HP every fight, you need to step it up a notch.

    Above all, focus on improving yourself. Record yourself if it helps and watch it back, always keep a meter running so you know how you're doing. Get a feel for your usual DPS on certain bosses.

    And don't be a tool and mock others for low dps. It's a game, not a competition.

    Hope u got orgasm when u blamed me I wrote dps/s meaning dmg/s. Such wow.
    If i used any consumables i would inform don't you think? And i asked about average. Not best dps. Ffs why all of you have to be so rude. I asked for dps of Slayer itself. Alone. Without extra consumables apart from standard niveots, charms and max crit as i mentioned.

    I don't think I was rude at all past my first sentence, and even then it was a passing comment.

    I asked necessary questions in order to get a feel for what kind of run you were looking at. TERA is not so one-dimensional that I can just give you a number for your class and not have other factors affect that number. If you knew all those other factors affected DPS then you should've said in your main post that you were either using or not using consummables, what party comp you had, what boss, what glyphs you had, what gear rolls, etc... DPS can double or triple based on those factors, so I think they're pretty important to include, don't you think?

    I tried giving you good advice and tips on how to improve yourself as a player but if you wanna be stubborn and confrontational about it I won't bother. You're just being naive and ignorant if you think I can spit out a number and have it be correct in every situation.

    Oh and to actually contribute to the thread - 400k/s is pathetic DPS on 90% of fights for any established Slayer. Given last boss DFNM, single healer, average run, no consummables, "Decent" at the class. 800k/s is a good benchmark.
  • Well since there sre so many factors that affect your dps i can only say that slayer is doing pretty well as for now. Its bursty and has decent mobility.

    You need to build slayer for full crit... +200 crit factor atleast to have a good crit rate. Even more important is that you have all your glyphs.

    For an example since DFNM is a boss that doesnt need much skill/positioning to keep dpsing hard so it shows raw dmg output.
    My slayer with +15 lucid weapon and dreadnaught armor, +223 crit factor and all glyphs with double healer+lancer and bravery pot does 1-1.2 mill/s on it.
  • OP, I think Zerea is right. If you want to compare between the three classes, we need something to "standardize" it - in other words, the ninja, the warrior and the slayer, in full Slaughter gear (assuming they have all the relevant glyphs), dps'ing on the same target.

    Take Lunatyc's example. I've seen ninjas (not sure about warriors, I haven't run with them much) do similar dps as his slayer, if not a bit higher than that, on Verno fights.

    Since you say you already did comparison between full Slaughter ninja and warrior - in what situation did you compare them?

    There is no 'average dps', but 'average dps on X target'.
  • Its really hard to quantify an 'average' dps a class should be having, particularly for slayers, since our dps fluctuates significantly based on RNG on overhand strike and heart thrust. Sometimes OHS and HT will reset for days, and sometimes their reset rates will be so awful you'll be pulling out your hair.

    I am in +15 Lucid and the most I've been able to do is 963k/s on DFNM Verno in a pug party with bravery pots and 1 mystic. But I have had runs in similar conditions where RNG just takes a dump on me and I end up with barely 700k/s.

    Generally speaking slayers are average dps. but their dps CAN be pushed pretty far in the hands of a skilled player. Just glancing at the teradps website, you can see some slayers are pulling off nearly 2m/s with slaying crystals in DFNM and around 1-1.3m/s on SSHM.

  • YitharYithar ✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    http://i.imgur.com/KKgAQKS.png

    1.08M/s. That's on Jack with VM6+15 with dyads and perfect jewelry though. Zerker is in VM6+15 too btw.
  • On most bosses I average around 400-500k/s with +15 vm6 weapon +12 vm6 body rest +12 slaughter, but on bosses like Desolarus, Jack I can easily go to 1.5-1.7m/s, just depends on wheter you have mystic, priest or both in your party and ofcourse which boss
  • Based12Based12 ✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    I normally see slayers on +15 stuff do around 1m to 1.5m/s on DFNM last boss.


    Tbh if u want a damage per second to aim, go for at least 1m/s if you are on +15 weapon. I do around 700k-1m/s on my slaughter+12 warrior in dfnm last boss, so as a slayer 1m/s on +15 should be the minimum (on that particular boss)
  • I have alt slayer in dread w fine niveots and just finished beating verno in normal mode. So i made 308k/s and was top-2 in dps (the 1st was brawler 450k/s and the 3rd was ninja 228k/s). Why so little:
    We beat verno for almost 7 mins!
    I used ICB only twice and sometimes broke rotation. I'm really not very good at playing slayer.
    I didn't use broosh, forgot about it.
    Death 2 times LOL


    So i guess it really possible to made 400k/s and even more. But in OK party and with exp of this class.
  • Based12Based12 ✭✭✭
    Last DFNM run i did with a slayer, he was on Tensus+15 (pvp) and he did like 1.2m/s, on an old pvp weapon, so yeah, slayers can def make more than 400k/s ^^
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