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Retribution needs a rework

Too much stuff goes through it now in pvp. Either fix that so it will cancel all the new stuff that keeps getting added (ninja shuriken, gunner mana missles/arc barrage, etc) or rework it so it's kind of like a tweaked old warp barrier or something, e.g. you can't cast during it but you deal damage if you're attacked with it up (like retribution would do), immune to cc, immune to damage.

It's just silly how now everything goes through it now when it's supposed to "IGNORE ALL DAMAGE AND IMMEDIATELY CHARGE TOWARD THE ENEMY. WHILE PREPARING YOU ALSO IGNORE ALL DAMAGE AND BECOME IMMUNE TO ALL EFFECTS"

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  • NikuroTegaNikuroTega ✭✭✭✭
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    Reapers are already getting a buff. Not that they ever needed any more buffs to begin with.
  • This is in regards to pvp and one of their skills being rendered completely useless (see: lost survivability)
    Their buffs are damage, and not that big in pvp ty so sit down.
  • Idi0ticGeniusIdi0ticGenius ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not only they're getting buffed real soon in upcoming patch,
    Reaper

    Death Spiral
    Glyph of Powerlink (Grim Strike) will persist through the entire 5 seconds duration.
    Glyph of Powerlink (Grim Strike) uncommon & common glyph changed from 20% to 30% increased base damage.
    Glyph of Powerlink (Grim Strike) rare glyph changed from 25% to 35% increased base damage.

    Double Shear
    Glyph of Powerlink (Grim Strike) will persist through the entire 5 seconds duration.
    Glyph of Powerlink (Grim Strike) uncommon & common glyph changed from 20% to 30% increased base damage.

    Sundering Strike
    Can be used as a chain skill after Death Spiral.
    Base damage increased by 20% if chained after Death Spiral.

    according to BHS Developers themselves, they're also getting more later on
    Q: Reapers lack iframes; what do you think about this? As for Soul reversal, it’s useless in PvP. Will there be changes for these instead of buffing Damage?

    A: As we’ve already said, they are planned to have many changes like Berserkers.

    ...From NEXON’s Official GM Note...
    Q: Reaper’s Retribution is lacking its performance and they lack iframes. We’d like utility buffs for them. Also, Brawlers have position lag (desync), and there are abuse related to this so we’d prefer if there was an adjustments to this.

    A: We plan to revise the issues you’ve addressed along with Archer changes.
  • NikuroTegaNikuroTega ✭✭✭✭
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    How are you having survivability issues on a Reaper? I understand for PvE, but PvP, Reapers are extremely mobile and slippery. I'm already sitting down, btw. :^)
  • EllieChuEllieChu ✭✭✭
    retribution was never designed to work against ranged attacks. What you are complaining about is that the skill works as intended
  • Why should retribution work against everything? If someone baits my panic retri in pvp, I should get punished for it accordingly.
  • SawaoSawao ✭✭
    More like the endless staggers and massive AoE cc needs a rework. Take a seat over there please.
  • PlagueFWCPlagueFWC ✭✭✭
    Last tick of whipsaw shouldn't stagger/be a combo extender. Besides that, reaper is fine in pvp
  • reapers lack iframes? soul reversal useless in pvp? who says these stupid things?
  • reapers lack iframes? soul reversal useless in pvp? who says these stupid things?

    I have definitely landed soul reversal in pvp before and then used it to stun someone for a followup. This skill is not useless in pvp...
  • reapers lack iframes? soul reversal useless in pvp? who says these stupid things?

    I have definitely landed soul reversal in pvp before and then used it to stun someone for a followup. This skill is not useless in pvp...

    thats efficiently a ranged stun. is not even bad its a great skill.
  • KimimishanKimimishan ✭✭✭
    pooni wrote: »
    Reapers need buffs? ahahahahaahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahaahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

    That

    @OP:
    3 skills going through = completly useless, I feel you, this must be horrible, I mean wtf look at the tooltip it says immune but in fact it DOESN'T ?! What world do we [muchocensored] live in, where a man (I'd disagree with the word man, but whatever) can be robbed of an awesome skill as it's rendered UTTERLY AND COMPLETLY useless because three skills hit through it ?! This is a nightmare ! I relate to your pain greatly, everyone should listen to you and as you said, sit down, Reaper has to be awesome and it can't be without this fix, honestly how can you even play Reaper during this patch ?!??!?? Ninja so op made Reaper useless and if you think that type of thinking is flawed or ridiculous, WELL PLAY MORE MMO OMG
  • Kimimishan wrote: »
    pooni wrote: »
    Reapers need buffs? ahahahahaahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahaahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

    That

    @OP:
    3 skills going through = completly useless, I feel you, this must be horrible, I mean wtf look at the tooltip it says immune but in fact it DOESN'T ?! What world do we [muchocensored] live in, where a man (I'd disagree with the word man, but whatever) can be robbed of an awesome skill as it's rendered UTTERLY AND COMPLETLY useless because three skills hit through it ?! This is a nightmare ! I relate to your pain greatly, everyone should listen to you and as you said, sit down, Reaper has to be awesome and it can't be without this fix, honestly how can you even play Reaper during this patch ?!??!?? Ninja so op made Reaper useless and if you think that type of thinking is flawed or ridiculous, WELL PLAY MORE MMO OMG

    skills that go through retribution

    Archer:
    Rain of Arrows
    Thunderbolt

    Berserker:
    Tackle

    Gunner:
    Bot summon
    Mana Missles
    Arcane Barrage
    Time Bomb

    Ninja:
    Bladestorm
    Fiery Vengeance (knockup bomb)
    Leaves on the Wind

    Reaper:
    Soul Reversal (damage hit applies, debuff doesn't_

    Sorc:
    Void Pulse
    Hailstorm

    Now see, the ones that just do damage I don't really care about, but ones such as gunner skills, ninja skills... If you retri in mass pvp and get hit by one of the stupid ones that knocks up or knocks down because someone aimed it randomly and it randomly hit you because giant aoe, the skill becomes COMPLETELY USELESS THE MOMENT THEY KNOCK YOU UP OR KNOCK YOU DOWN.

    EXAMPLE:
    You see a warp barriered sorc with celerity up casting fireblast on you. You don't have shadow step up. You retri. A gunner had pressed his nose on his keyboard, it landed on mana missles, and it hit you because giant aoe. It knocked you down. Your retribution is now *useless* and that fireblast will hit you anyways.
  • edited June 2016
    reapers lack iframes? soul reversal useless in pvp? who says these stupid things?

    I have definitely landed soul reversal in pvp before and then used it to stun someone for a followup. This skill is not useless in pvp...

    It's not that great in pvp beyond 1v1 where people are spamming cleanse. It's a niche skill only useful in certain situations.
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