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Best high ping classes for PvE

edited June 2016 in PvE Discussion
I am moving to Japan from California and my ping is about to skyrocket. What's some good classes in PvE with 200-300ms ping.
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  • cyzrongcyzrong ✭✭
    edited June 2016
    My experience totally differs from that guide and I play with a consistent 250ping .-.

    So I guess you could say that sufficient practice will overcome the ping barrier a little.

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    Personal Pref:
    Overall: Warrior > Brawler > Ninja

    DPS: Warrior/Ninja > Slayer > Sorc > Gunner/Archer/Zerker >> Reaper
    Tank: Brawler >> Lancer
    Healer: Priest >> Mystic

    Qualifications:-
    1. I have every class at 65
    2. I did not invest the same amount of time into each class. This was based on leveling from 1-65.
    3. I did, however, play each class for a while to gear it (low tier) before shelving it.
    4. Top roll is Atk Spd. I feel it brings about a substantial quality of life change.
    5. I mained warrior since F2P so might be why it's right up there.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    gunner, why not play jtera ?
  • from my experience warrior with over 150ms already feels rly slow and limits what i can do, if it goes above 200 i rather not play it...as for archer i keep hearing ppl saying that is unplayable with high ping but the only skill that is rly hurt by ping is rapid fire that untill the next patch hits, is just a 'ok' filler that can b replaced w/o one losing too much dps, in fact i know an archer that plays with over 200 ping and does rly good dps. as for classes that are more ping friendly id say gunner/slayer. i heard with high ping reapers have a hard time using second hit of shadow burst, but if that is not the case than reaper can also b an option. but if ur moving to japan you should just play jtera with 10ping =´)
  • Based12Based12 ✭✭✭
    I play warrior just fine with 200ms and more, and the secret to it: Don't have a [filtered] ton of attack speed like in the video. There is a warrior build where u go for attack speed and CDR, which is not the best imo.

    When you have a normal attack speed, ping doesn't matter, as a warrior i notice my high ping only when my cd's are really low and i press keys very fast, then there's some kind of desync sometimes and it's like for example BD doesn't chain properly and it does the animation rly slow, but i've got used to it and i know how to play with it.

    I used battleping and mi ping does get better, from around 220 to 170-180, but tbh i see no difference.
  • BanimBanim ✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    Healers are the absolute most ping friendly in my opinion. Once you get down your timings for iframes you are good to go. And just have a little foresight to keep your party up and running, which is necessary anyway even if your ping is low.
  • Yosha once posted a Test he did on Reaper, same gear, same setup, once with about 40 ms, and another with 220 ms. The test was performed on a whole PVE rotation. Lower Ping character did the rotation in about 20% faster. So yeah you will lose overall dps in PVE. But in PVP is much worse.

    I play with 200ms+ average all the time, and I play several classes. IMHO, the best classes for HIGH ping in PVE are Gunner, Reaper, Archer, in that particular order. In PVP, Gunner, Reaper, and probably the Healer classes. I play Mystic in PVP nowadays, and besides being fun, Its really ping friendly.

    Also, with High Ping, The CDR and Att Speed build does not fit in properly, so you might wanna do a crit/power combo build.

    I know that Lancer, Warrior are very ping dependent.

    Regardless of the class you choose you will have to adapt to the new ping and change your playstyle. There is no other way around it. Yeah, Battleping and other services might lower the ping and it will help. JTera is another option, but I understand, all your friends are in NA Tera, and you wanna play with them.
  • SylvietteSylviette ✭✭✭
    If you have no problem iframing with high ping, the issues left are not being able to chain skill thus losing the benefit of fast casting or canceling skills; and charging skills take much longer to finish. Charging skills aside, not being able to chain skill hurts much much more than just having a slight delay between skill uses since you will be exposed to animation lock as well as dps lose.

    Thus here's my list :
    Ninja (no chain skill, can glitch auto attack easily) = Brawler (no chain skill) = Gunner (no chain skill, and you can macro burstfire) > Healers (no chain skill) > Slayer (huge time frame to chain skill) = reaper (same as slayer, except you must take our fast cast shadow burst) >>> the rest.

  • mollyyamollyya ✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    These classes are fine under 250ping. If you have higher than 300ping, uninstall TERA.
    Slayer(long frames for chain skills, long iframes)
    Brawler(faceroll)
    Ninja(faceroll, long iframes)
    Both healers do not require good ping in PvE. But you need to manage your iframes more carefully. Lock-on heals are a bit harder to use too.

    These classes are also considerable, but avoid using certain skills that heavily affected by ping. Their DPS lose significantly in high ping too.
    Archer(Rapid fire, Arrow volley, Charging is slower)
    Gunner(Burst fire)
    Reaper(Shadow burst, less rotations during Shadow reaping)
    Berzerker(Charging is slower)
    Sorcerer(Yosha can cast 15 spells in one BoC duration, you can only cast 12 at most)
    Warrior, keep in mind that using noc will cause horrible desync problem.

    Never touch this class
    Lancer(You will always fail every spring attack chains, wallop chains and onslaught chains under 200+ping and 150+ attack speed, Block cancel is inconsistent and will not help you much)
  • Slayer on high ping ? PLEASE no , eviscerate desyncs in both pve and pvp its sad , stick to gunner ninja reaper
  • DvsvDvsv ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    Imho, Slayer is one of the best classes for high ping pve wise( it's trash on pvp tho).
    My main was Gunner for ~1 year and now i play only Slayer for Pve, my dps is better now and it's much more fun.
    Gunner is "OK" but not that great for high ping, u need macro on burst fire and even then there's a big windup animation and u can't do some high skill combos (see chicken.salad guide).
    On the previous patch, as a gunner my dps on +15 lucid was almost the same as a good dread +12 gunner w/ 40 ms, now my sf+15 slayer got the same dps as any skilled slayer on same gear and i got no problem to match sf+15 gunner dps.
    Brawler is fine too for high ping, idk about Ninjas.
    Btw, my ping is ~200 ms.
  • I played since Beta with Warrior at 190-250ms on EU, and I've managed to complete every PvE dungeon in this game (except DS2 Floor 22). I also tanked SCHM Darkan (release) just fine on warrior. I used to run with attack speed because it does somewhat makes the disparity between low and high latency warriors seem less apparent, but you lose out on a lot of DPS (even if your uptime is good).

    I also had a fair amount of time on my Berserker but that was another story. Cleared MCHM close to 100 times just fine, but it was very, very challenging. Personally I would just go for whatever feels swift and fun (the game is really fun when it's fast in my opinion). All the best to the class of your choice!
  • I have 5 different classes played and i play at 230 - 270 ping so here's my opnion on each of them...

    1) Brawler: not much issue with high ping since RHK can super cancel the animation lock of GP and HM.

    2) Ninja: u do decent dps even with high ping (possibly due to the inherent op-ness of the class). But to actually min-max dps, close to impossible. BH desync too often, combo attack and main skills cast slower than a low ping ninja.

    3) Reaper: not much issue except for the well-known problem of not being able to trigger 2nd shadow burst. Chaining to sundering strike will sometimes desync even when pressing the key immediately after a chain skill e.g. grim strike

    4) Slayer: same problem with sundering strike but for MS. Else no other issue

    5) Mystic: only issue is the slightly slower lockon for heal and cleanse;
  • I don't really know if I can contribute much but being in western Australia, i have a ping between 280-320. I main an archer, (I'm not that bad at it either) with mystic as my second and lancer as my third favourites. I have all the classes though, and from personal experience, the hardest class for me to play is Brawler due to lag issues. (Counter lock and spam and mistimed chains)

    Lancer requires a lot of patience to really adjust to the timing, but with practice, it becomes quite good to play, even with a high ping, tho I am quite average at lancer pvp. :/

    With a high ping, the main thing, is pick a class and stick with it for a while, adjust to the slightly different timings, and try to compensate a bit. In PvP its a little harder with an archer, because you sort of need to be aware to aim slightly off to hit a moving player/target, but knowing your rotations and adjusting them to suit a higher ping is really the best advice I can give you.

    TL;DR: Pick a class that you like. Play that. You'll adjust to the delayed timing.
  • sagexas wrote: »
    I don't really know if I can contribute much but being in western Australia, i have a ping between 280-320. I main an archer, (I'm not that bad at it either) with mystic as my second and lancer as my third favourites. I have all the classes though, and from personal experience, the hardest class for me to play is Brawler due to lag issues. (Counter lock and spam and mistimed chains)

    Lancer requires a lot of patience to really adjust to the timing, but with practice, it becomes quite good to play, even with a high ping, tho I am quite average at lancer pvp. :/

    With a high ping, the main thing, is pick a class and stick with it for a while, adjust to the slightly different timings, and try to compensate a bit. In PvP its a little harder with an archer, because you sort of need to be aware to aim slightly off to hit a moving player/target, but knowing your rotations and adjusting them to suit a higher ping is really the best advice I can give you.

    TL;DR: Pick a class that you like. Play that. You'll adjust to the delayed timing.

    lol you're playing at 300ms and talking like it's not a big deal? Makes me wonder if you even know how to play the game properly.
    If you think you're "average" at lancer PvP with 300ms you're either playing with the worst PvPers out there, or your desync is so good that people can't hit you.
    Either that, or your 300ms is not the same as my 300ms.
  • I think the real thing, is that when you've always played with a huge ping, you've never known what its like to play without it, so you never have anything to compare it to.
    Dunno if that makes sense. :/
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