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KTERA Announced that there will be Bank Expansion

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  • More space for trash in bank yay
  • That's a good news, but what about the pets? Since we already have more than 4 pets with Pet Pocket ability at the moment:

    Totes, Cheeks, Caddy, Felicity, Tea Cup and Precious
  • edited June 2016
    Wish BHS think before announce stuffs. This bank expansion came up after many Korean players gave negative feedback about restricting guild bank.
    Seems like BHS never think about why people making one-man/tiny guild just for the extra storage. They only focus on increasing guild activity rather than considering player convenience. If no one made comment about storage, they might not even thought about this add on.

    Pet storage? nothing is mentioned (until people express more anger towards them?).
  • SGPlayerSGPlayer
    edited June 2016
    3. Guild Bank Restriction

    As it is decided that the activity of guild community were not operating properly due to massive use of Personal Guild Banks, Guild Banks are planned to be restricted.
    The items kept in guild bank will be moved to “Temporary Bank”, where items be be “withdrawn” but not “stored”. The restricted Guild Bank can be re-opened through the guild’s growth.

    Very "moralistic" don't you think? So what? Is this somehow ruining the game for others? Or is their real problem that it cuts into their revenue stream for bank expansions? "Oh No... Too Many Private Guilds.. We must crack down on those private guilds!!"
    I'm not happy, as you might guess.
    How many guild members is small? 2? 20? 30?

    There are other choices out there that don't keep screwing around with the rules.

    Oh Wait! Accounts are free right? Oh. sorry no problem. Whatever number there is folks can make a guild big enough? Limit of 60? 100? No problem. Just create enough accounts and join up. Law of unintended consequences.

    Maybe part of bank expansion issue is continually creating new "Currencies" that take up bank space instead of just putting them in a Currency panel that takes no bank space. Let me see. Fed Bills, Fash Coups, ... and what's the new one? Special Tokens? All of these are loyalty tokens that seem to be intended to make me want to play more for some questionable benefits. Really? Adding more Loyalty Tokens is not likely to add more loyalty if the ones we have don't already work for me. They just take up more bank space. And don't even get me started on the special currencies for events like "bake off" or the "Moon Wolf" event we had last year. Just create a currency panel? Please.

    Finally!! Class Redoos.
    Let's hope they look at DPS rates and even them out so all are OP with quick skills. Just was playing a zerker at 61 and why doesn't it do quick high DPS swings like - oh say, Reaper? I feel like I'm being carried through Sabex Armory by all the other classes. I'm just blocking and surviving while everybody else does the damage. It's simple really. Instrument the game, check DPS rates in various play styles and levels and even them all out. Same high DPS rates for all the older classes as we have for the new ones. Oh? We never thought of that? Sure looks like it..

    Nerf Mystic? Uhhhhh..... Except for it's big pet, which has 5min CD, mystic is barely holding it's own. Right.. Sounds like we need a nerf. Duh. My experience is that the Mystic has a chance to pull a weak party out of deep place in a dungeon when they are not up to it. And the big pet never comes out if there are brawley's, gunny's or Ninja's in the party. So why do we need to nerf the mysic? Anybody else noticed that the mystic is way OP? That big pet is so slow with it's attack that the boss is likely dead by the time it gets in a hit if there are OP classes in the group.

  • Idi0ticGeniusIdi0ticGenius ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    Nothing about Pet banks.

    So basically this makes 4 + 4 Bank and 4 Pet Bank per character, and 4 Guild Bank if unlocked.

    The problem is, this doesn't solve problem with my banking issues because I have 2 personal guild banks that I use for storing materials and crafted goods. I have total of 6 pet bank as well, which are all pretty much full too. In my case, I need 12 account-wide bank spaces unless they plan to raise the max stack of an item, which are 10000 in bank. If it wasn't for the Tier # MES/SB's as well as personal alkahests, I would have saved 8 bank spaces.

    I mean, I can literally free up some bank spaces since they are full crystals and low level items but I'd rather keep those in case I make another character.

    There's so much to clean up, and 10000 stack limit is definitely not helping either.

    BHS (or Nexon) does not realize why people do not join large guilds. The whole change in Guild System sounds like "Join large guild and make the game active!" but the issue with larger guild is the fact that at least in KTERA there are a lot of greedy people joining large guild just so that they can get better chance to get stuff-- they join for items, not for social/guild activities. I'm not saying everyone is like this, but it's a big issue as there are incidents related to guild bank robbery, guild drama, PUG (Koreans call this bus-riding), etc.

    Other than that issue, these changes just confirms that they are NOT considering solo players or those in smaller-scale group, as well as casual players. Most of their content they are pushing, they call it "end-game" but they also seem to emphasize "hardcore", which is great-- except, these contents they revealed seem like they require large active guild to participate in. There is lack of fairness for smaller guilds because they will be lacking man-power to do any of the content shown.

    And dropping a complete BiS piece as BoE needs to be removed. So much for a BiS meant for "hardcore" players... of course, I'm not saying +15 is easy in general but that just doesn't add up what they've said and what they are planning to do.
  • JBGamingJBGaming ✭✭✭
    Nopi wrote: »
    Considering, and if what I understood from the developer's is right, this should come at a time when guild bank will be restricted to guilds that do certain things, meaning guilds with personal alt characters for the purpose of banking may be a thing of the past. Again, if I understood it right.
    That is exactly what I did. It would make things go towards a positive side for me if they actually made the bank with 4 more tabs.
  • JBGamingJBGaming ✭✭✭
    Mesogog wrote: »
    Nopi wrote: »
    Where? O.o I only see 4 on mine, per server, and I'm both founder and paying elite sub. >.<

    Pets, though they are expensive and only per char. Ironically, they actually give you more tabs individually instead of shared tabs.

    For example, I have 12 char so 1 account bound Totes gives me 12 extra tabs already.

    I hope I'm making sense :p
    :expressionless: That is entirely different thing. I like the idea of having 4 more bank tabs. This is beneficial to me. Plus not everyone can afford to "Buy" pets for the extra inventory space. Those that can it is still a beneficial thing. Why would you not welcome 4 more bank tab:open_mouth:
  • JBGamingJBGaming ✭✭✭
    SGPlayer wrote: »
    3. Guild Bank Restriction



    Maybe part of bank expansion issue is continually creating new "Currencies" that take up bank space instead of just putting them in a Currency panel that takes no bank space. Let me see. Fed Bills, Fash Coups, ... and what's the new one? Special Tokens? All of these are loyalty tokens that seem to be intended to make me want to play more for some questionable benefits. Really? Adding more Loyalty Tokens is not likely to add more loyalty if the ones we have don't already work for me. They just take up more bank space. And don't even get me started on the special currencies for events like "bake off" or the "Moon Wolf" event we had last year. Just create a currency panel? Please.


    I agree with this totally. Any descent game with have a section of..hmm.. May I call it a ui of sorts?....anyway...it's separate from inventory. It's account specific. It's an auto thing that keeps track of it all. You won't need to put fashion coupons in your inventory or in the bank as the ui is more like an artificial intelligence file. Keeping track of it for you.

  • JBGamingJBGaming ✭✭✭
    Nothing about Pet banks.

    So basically this makes 4 + 4 Bank and 4 Pet Bank per character, and 4 Guild Bank if unlocked.

    The problem is, this doesn't solve problem with my banking issues because I have 2 personal guild banks that I use for storing materials and crafted goods. I have total of 6 pet bank as well, which are all pretty much full too. In my case, I need 12 account-wide bank spaces unless they plan to raise the max stack of an item, which are 10000 in bank. If it wasn't for the Tier # MES/SB's as well as personal alkahests, I would have saved 8 bank spaces.

    I mean, I can literally free up some bank spaces since they are full crystals and low level items but I'd rather keep those in case I make another character.

    There's so much to clean up, and 10000 stack limit is definitely not helping either.

    I do agree that there should be unlimited stacks allowed in the bank system.

  • Nothing about Pet banks.

    So basically this makes 4 + 4 Bank and 4 Pet Bank per character, and 4 Guild Bank if unlocked.

    The problem is, this doesn't solve problem with my banking issues because I have 2 personal guild banks that I use for storing materials and crafted goods. I have total of 6 pet bank as well, which are all pretty much full too. In my case, I need 12 account-wide bank spaces unless they plan to raise the max stack of an item, which are 10000 in bank. If it wasn't for the Tier # MES/SB's as well as personal alkahests, I would have saved 8 bank spaces.

    I mean, I can literally free up some bank spaces since they are full crystals and low level items but I'd rather keep those in case I make another character.

    There's so much to clean up, and 10000 stack limit is definitely not helping either.

    I do agree that there should be unlimited stacks allowed in the bank system.

    Unlimited stacks in the bank would free up alot of space in my bank, so many full stacks of noctenium :/
  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    Wouldn't it be easier, profitable, and more convenient to everyone if instead of just +4, they added the ability to add more? I mean, they want to crack down on alt guilds to force people to buy bank expansions, BUT they also limit how many bank expansions, so is the real goal of BHS to actually limite how much you can have? Dunno. There could be a reason why someone shouldn't have 10 bank tabs full to the brim, even if said player paid for them. They want everyone to buy more pets perhaps?

    Also, why crack down on alts guilds (while more or less trying to re-invent the wheel) when we could be using BHS's supposed limited resources into even more actual character balance? And, why all the push to seemingly force soloers into guilds? Ever since alliance started, I see it as if the game wants to boo at you for not being in a guild. Kinda vexing...
  • @Catori I didn't actually read through all the links you posted - not that I'm lazy, I just don't always trust that stuff in Ktera will be 100% implemented in NA.

    It's kind of sad that they are trying to do away with "small guilds" (exactly how many friends do I have to have in order to be considered "relevant" enough to have a guild?). As was pointed out with the whole "unintended consequences" argument, I could simply create 100 free accounts and have them all join my guild... so I don't see the point in punishing people for playing on a single account with lots of alts.

    Sure, part of the reason I run a guild is for the extra bank space. But also so that I can share mats with a friend or friends without having to mail or trade directly. If I get extra bank tabs, it will solve the problem of not having enough space in my own bank, but it will make it much more difficult for me to share stuff with someone else in game. That and I don't like the whole idea of "only big guilds matter". My guild is a close knit family and I'd like to keep it that way. I don't want to be forced to have to recruit dozens of strangers just so I can still have a guild.
  • TWMagimayTWMagimay ✭✭✭✭✭
    The important question is...will the currently existing bank tabs work for the new expansions or not?
  • msoltysplmsoltyspl ✭✭✭

    Looking at some of those questions and answers .... how to even be optimistic about this game ...

    And of course noone there gives a rat's [filtered] about what's happening outside Korea. Does BHS even realize they have players in the rest of the world ?

  • MagraalMagraal ✭✭✭
    PlagueFWC wrote: »
    Problem i'm having is more that i'm running out of space in my inventory for stuff i want to keep on me at all times (mostly costumes. i just wanna switch instantly Q.Q). Would muuuuch rather see an upgrade to that.

    We're getting costume-only storage in July, as part of the Aces Wild update.
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