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HighWatch server activities

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  • kamizumakamizuma ✭✭✭✭
    also tell me, why did you transfer to HW then?
  • BaldurdashBaldurdash ✭✭✭
    kamizuma wrote: »
    also tell me, why did you transfer to HW then?

    I started there with a bunch of friends who left a dead guild on TR.
  • kamizuma wrote: »
    like many others have said, you really need to consider what type of players actually play on each server. Like did you honestly expect many talented/geared players to transfer to HW when it opened? Of course not, who in their right mind would give up their friends/reputation/built up resources on their own server to go to a new one? Were you expecting to be a big fish in a small pond because that's definitely what happened lol. That being said, HW's population consists mainly of new players that just started the game/aren't as hardcore about the game and as soon as people realize they're outskilling their cohorts it's only natural for them to transfer off because they aren't going to sit around waiting for the rest of HW to catch up.

    I think HW is fine population wise for a server, it's just you shouldn't be expecting the same quality of play on more established servers (and why should you? Not all servers are created equally!)

    And we had that at one point in time.
    There were a solid number of good endgame PvE players.
    Truly I was impressed..

    And everyone keeps saying that it's not an established server or it's new..How long can it stay new for? It's been over a year. Everyone treats it like it happened yesterday. If you haven't been on the server and actively played since it opened then truthfully..You don't know jack
    Jun 09, 2015 Transferring I.Hack from Ascension Valley to Highwatch
  • kamizumakamizuma ✭✭✭✭
    Madoif wrote: »
    kamizuma wrote: »
    also tell me, why did you transfer to HW then?

    I started there with a bunch of friends who left a dead guild on TR.

    and what did you expect on HW, a brand new server?
  • kamizumakamizuma ✭✭✭✭
    kamizuma wrote: »
    like many others have said, you really need to consider what type of players actually play on each server. Like did you honestly expect many talented/geared players to transfer to HW when it opened? Of course not, who in their right mind would give up their friends/reputation/built up resources on their own server to go to a new one? Were you expecting to be a big fish in a small pond because that's definitely what happened lol. That being said, HW's population consists mainly of new players that just started the game/aren't as hardcore about the game and as soon as people realize they're outskilling their cohorts it's only natural for them to transfer off because they aren't going to sit around waiting for the rest of HW to catch up.

    I think HW is fine population wise for a server, it's just you shouldn't be expecting the same quality of play on more established servers (and why should you? Not all servers are created equally!)

    And we had that at one point in time.
    There were a solid number of good endgame PvE players.
    Truly I was impressed..

    And everyone keeps saying that it's not an established server or it's new..How long can it stay new for? It's been over a year. Everyone treats it like it happened yesterday. If you haven't been on the server and actively played since it opened then truthfully..You don't know jack
    Jun 09, 2015 Transferring I.Hack from Ascension Valley to Highwatch

    Ya and do you honestly think they wouldn't want more? It's unfortunate that HW was created 3+ years after the other servers so even if you're at the top of HW, the other servers simply have more to offer so it's not surprising that people eventually realize this and decide to move up. Ya but keep in mind you're playing on a server whose main playerbase is composed of fresh players that have never played before so it's obviously going to take time before they get to end game and the ones that get there quickly again realize HW doesn't offer as much as more established servers can for skilled players.

    And yes, I've been on HW since the beginning.
  • kamizuma wrote: »
    like many others have said, you really need to consider what type of players actually play on each server. Like did you honestly expect many talented/geared players to transfer to HW when it opened? Of course not, who in their right mind would give up their friends/reputation/built up resources on their own server to go to a new one? Were you expecting to be a big fish in a small pond because that's definitely what happened lol. That being said, HW's population consists mainly of new players that just started the game/aren't as hardcore about the game and as soon as people realize they're outskilling their cohorts it's only natural for them to transfer off because they aren't going to sit around waiting for the rest of HW to catch up.

    I think HW is fine population wise for a server, it's just you shouldn't be expecting the same quality of play on more established servers (and why should you? Not all servers are created equally!)

    I don't find your reply constructive, I am sorry, you are just saying something that doesn't make sense, if you don't see all kind of players in any server then that is an issue, I said it before and I will say it again, this attitude is not helping the game, it ruins it. I can't 10 chars away, also HW opened a year ago, a year is a long time for an MMO, all it takes is a week to 2 weeks to get your early late game sets and get ready to do more.

    I don't get your reply seriously.
  • kamizumakamizuma ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    kamizuma wrote: »
    like many others have said, you really need to consider what type of players actually play on each server. Like did you honestly expect many talented/geared players to transfer to HW when it opened? Of course not, who in their right mind would give up their friends/reputation/built up resources on their own server to go to a new one? Were you expecting to be a big fish in a small pond because that's definitely what happened lol. That being said, HW's population consists mainly of new players that just started the game/aren't as hardcore about the game and as soon as people realize they're outskilling their cohorts it's only natural for them to transfer off because they aren't going to sit around waiting for the rest of HW to catch up.

    I think HW is fine population wise for a server, it's just you shouldn't be expecting the same quality of play on more established servers (and why should you? Not all servers are created equally!)

    I don't find your reply constructive, I am sorry, you are just saying something that doesn't make sense, if you don't see all kind of players in any server then that is an issue, I said it before and I will say it again, this attitude is not helping the game, it ruins it. I can't 10 chars away, also HW opened a year ago, a year is a long time for an MMO, all it takes is a week to 2 weeks to get your early late game sets and get ready to do more.

    I don't get your reply seriously.

    Umm... I'm pretty sure people with similar goals/play dedication are always driven to group together. If you can't understand that then I don't know what to say. Furthermore, just because YOU can get your end game set in a week doesn't mean the AVERAGE player on HW can.

    And let me rephrase what I said before so you can understand it.

    A BRAND NEW server opens up 3 years after this game has been out and FREE 1 WAY transfers are given out to anyone that wants to join it. Okay, now let's ask WHO would join HW (this is a very VERY important question, especially since it's a ONE way transfer and you're gonna have to pay if you regret your choice). With that in mind, it's clear to see that most of Highwatch's population would be comprised of new steam players. Now, with a very small skilled population, it takes time for people to develop ect. This brings me to my second point, if a player that started newly on HW quickly becomes at the top of the server, what's left for him on HW? These people are going to leave to further develop themselves because they aren't going to wait 6+ months for everyone else to catch up to them, it just isn't fair to themselves. So you're left with the more casual players and stuff so that's HW's population composition. Maybe it's true these people can't do sshm, but I think it's more like they don't WANT to because the driven players aren't left on HW anymore.

  • I don't find your reply constructive, I am sorry, you are just saying something that doesn't make sense, if you don't see all kind of players in any server then that is an issue, I said it before and I will say it again, this attitude is not helping the game, it ruins it. I can't 10 chars away, also HW opened a year ago, a year is a long time for an MMO, all it takes is a week to 2 weeks to get your early late game sets and get ready to do more.

    I don't get your reply seriously.

    There are two types of players in HW. There's the group of newbies - steam players - and then there's the people who have transferred in from all the other servers last year. Who are those people? In all parts of society, there are always those who are outcasts among their group. Usually, these members hang at the outskirts of the social web, clinging to the few friends and acquaintances who take pity on them. Some of them just quit altogether when they have the clarity to realize that nobody really likes them. Highwatch is what happens when you create a new land for these misfits and social lepers to congregate: a new server where the dregs of society who couldn't fit in to their respected normal servers could start with a clean slate while continuing with their warped and toxic mentalities. Their addiction and need to prove themselves better than their peers, combined with the crippling insecurity and fear of being rejected once again, makes the HW community the utmost cliquey and most drama filled group in Tera. A community such as this doesn't really let newbies develop their abilities, and makes people want to quit.

    HW was a doomed concept from the start; a containment center for the unwanted and despised upon which new talent was to be fostered and raised? I don't think so. People are forgetful, and once the original transfers realize that life is quick and memories and reputations are fleeting, they're going to want off the island, taking their valuable resources and leaving the newly shipwrecked stranded in favor of their new life on the mainland. They've done it before, and they'll do it again.

    @Spacecats might say that the populations are quite equal, I don't doubt that he's right, purely looking at the server statistics. However, it's undeniable that the overall quality of HW players is lacking. Whatever little talent has left, realizing they were just medium sized fish competing for scraps in a small waste dump when the fresh ocean is only a $15 transfer away, and that if they move they can actually have the potential to grow. The people still on the server looking for end game content just have to accept that fact and transfer out. Everyone else is gone, and they've taken the economy with them. Highwatch will eventually recover and build its community from the newbies, but the smart thing would be to just leave.
  • From my experience, its a beautiful self-fulfilling prophecy.

    'This server is dead' > Transfers
    Transfers > The server has one less skilled player and becomes more dead.

    It's like the Adblock Singularity: When more people use adblock because of annoying ads, sites have to use advertisements that pay out more, which are usually video/popout ads, therefore convincing more people to use adblock, etc etc.
  • JasonLucasJasonLucas ✭✭✭
    I trust more in someone who came from HW and said that was because the server is dead, than on what Spacecats said on his first post here.
    We all know that HW has population issues, but I doubt that EME will do something about that, better open your wallets or stay in that trap.
  • Praise the Skywhale!
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    You shouldn't compare what Highwatch is capable of to what other servers are capable of. The other servers have long been established and it shouldn't be a surprise they're capable of doing more. Even with an equal population and equal activity it doesn't mean they're equal in quality, simply quantity. Of course, part of the problem is people tend to come up with negative scenarios and then believing it to be true, even if it is not true. It never matters how irrational the thought is, we might still believe it. Which then drives off some potentially talented players to either TR or MT, which hurts HW as its comprised of mostly inexperienced players. Any experienced players that are there are honestly going to stick together and are rarely going to let anyone in.
  • ChrisehChriseh ✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    ...the past 10 months, EMP ratio from 1:10 reach 1:35.
    This isn't a sign your server is dying. Right now on MT the rates are anywhere between 1:30 to 1:40 as well.


    I've read the entirety of this thread and throughout the tone has changed. From claiming the server was dead, to agreeing on a consistent point about player quality:
    gbfgbf0 wrote: »
    If you think the server is so healthy spacecats stop by and try to find a group to fun sshm with. Good luck.
    Okay I can get behind them both having same populations sure
    But Highwatch is missing players of higher skill level...
    Everyday i'll spend 2-3-4 hours making a SSHM LFG only to hard carry them till last boss..And really it just makes me sad..
    Madoif wrote: »
    They... they all left...

    The issue isn't whether the server is populated.. The issue is whether there are skilled players to run end game content with. HW is the newest server and so it's of course going to experience growing pains. A lot of people are going to leave because they moved from other servers and have been playing a long time. These are the people who are confident in their skill and don't want to teach or carry others. That's perfectly fine.

    While your skilled friends might be leaving it doesn't make the server dead or dying. It's simply at a different level than you and your friends are at, and so your demands as a player aren't being met.

    In all seriousness though, It's not about the number of population really...It's the quality and you know what they say Quality > Quantity.

    Each server has a different community. Each of those communities nurture different qualities and have different goals. If you wanted a server that had a lot more quality, then your mistake was moving to Highwatch; a server that was created to deal with the growing population brought in by Steam.

    A lot of the main posters in this thread complaining about dying servers have also been responsible for other threads or commentaries for other servers (the VoT thread that's since been removed). A thread created by someone askinh for free server transfers due to not having the money to move themselves.

    You're in charge of your happiness. If moving will make you happy then you should move. Don't rely on a free transfer or merge to solve your problems.
  • BaldurdashBaldurdash ✭✭✭
    Chriseh wrote: »

    You're in charge of your happiness. If moving will make you happy then you should move. Don't rely on a free transfer or merge to solve your problems.

    Okay so I like this game and all, but most of the responses here have been big '[filtered] you' replies to the people that tried to make the server into something since the very beginning instead of abandoning it.

    Between self fulfilling prophecy and you telling me to transfer I don't know which garbage response makes me cringe more.

    If I wanted to be happy for 20 dollars I'd go buy some beer. I had my fun with tera but if you guys want to let these servers keep withering I'm not going to be a part of it anymore. We tried to keep morale up and a lot of you act like we didn't try to keep things together.

    Server transferring only makes it worse for highwatch. It was a very vibrant and full of life server for many months after I began on it. All of my friends have quit and the new ones I made these past two months have scattered to the wind.

    I made a promise to myself and Highwatch to never transfer; to never be a part of the problem, and when I finally reached my limit these past few days and speak out I get insulted by spacecats and kamizuma(hurrdurr shouldn't have picked hw lol0l).

    Good bye.
  • Madoif wrote: »
    Chriseh wrote: »

    You're in charge of your happiness. If moving will make you happy then you should move. Don't rely on a free transfer or merge to solve your problems.

    Okay so I like this game and all, but most of the responses here have been big '[filtered] you' replies to the people that tried to make the server into something since the very beginning instead of abandoning it.

    Between self fulfilling prophecy and you telling me to transfer I don't know which garbage response makes me cringe more.

    If I wanted to be happy for 20 dollars I'd go buy some beer. I had my fun with tera but if you guys want to let these servers keep withering I'm not going to be a part of it anymore. We tried to keep morale up and a lot of you act like we didn't try to keep things together.

    Server transferring only makes it worse for highwatch. It was a very vibrant and full of life server for many months after I began on it. All of my friends have quit and the new ones I made these past two months have scattered to the wind.

    I made a promise to myself and Highwatch to never transfer; to never be a part of the problem, and when I finally reached my limit these past few days and speak out I get insulted by spacecats and kamizuma(hurrdurr shouldn't have picked hw lol0l).

    Good bye.

    I will miss you </3
    but I somewhat feel like I'm not far behind you my friend..
    I enjoyed the community here, I loved watching the newbies git gud and helping them along the way..
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