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Vanguard BAMs

JagroenJagroen
in PvE Discussion
As a 412 Ninja, I'm new to tera..so I die alot to mobs that I guess are easy.
The teraliths on Isle of Dawn really [filtered] me off even If i Decoy, stun, iFrame I don't get motes to heal and the DoT is too strong for a class that can't heal

How would you go to kill them without dying to chain cc with the dot?

Comments

  • RakWraithraiserRakWraithraiser ✭✭✭
    why would u die. IoD bams are piece of cake for ninja.....
  • RokubyouRokubyou ✭✭
    Just study your rotations and iframes. I never died there, not even once, not even when I had just DN equips. So it's more of a technique problem. When you get the hang of it, everything will be a piece of cake there.
  • JagroenJagroen ✭
    the Teraliths, the tentacle mobs just [filtered] me off cause they don't do the targetting thing on the ground for the stun and once i get stunned its chain'd cc to death.
  • RakWraithraiserRakWraithraiser ✭✭✭
    Jagroen wrote: »
    the Teraliths, the tentacle mobs just [filtered] me off cause they don't do the targetting thing on the ground for the stun and once i get stunned its chain'd cc to death.

    Try to Decoy - Chakra Thrust - Double Cut - Skyfall - CoS - 1k - Bomb - kunai or fire and repeat till the mob dies.

    My ninja rotation is pure bad but i manage to kill IoD bams without dying.
  • LaoshangLaoshang ✭✭
    edited July 2016
    It best you set a goal.
    Start by setting 15min for each high tier BAM, 10min for each mid tier BAM. Each time push harder and try to beat your time record.

    I belive you are new to TERA & getting lvl65 without facing alot of difficult boss content. Can you show your weapon stats and your critical factor. Btw best way to kill Teraliths is start by hitting it's back, Teraliths will stand still for a moment after u land a hit.

    With ilvl412, bring down a Teraliths around half minute is your goal.
  • RokubyouRokubyou ✭✭
    Laoshang wrote: »
    It best you set a goal.
    Start by setting 15min for each high tier BAM, 10min for each mid tier BAM. Each time push harder and try to beat your time record.

    I belive you are new to TERA & getting lvl65 without facing alot of difficult boss content. Can you show your weapon stats and your critical factor. Btw best way to kill Teraliths is start by hitting it's back, Teraliths will stand still for a moment after u land a hit.

    With ilvl412, bring down a Teraliths around half minute is your goal.

    ^ I believe this will help you solve your problem. Always remember, rotation is the core. You must know your skills before you go out in the battlefield.
  • JagroenJagroen ✭
    edited July 2016
    T9 +12 except for boots which are at +10

    Weapon
    9.3 Enraged
    6.9 Behind
    9.3 Enraged
    2.0 Attack Speed
    Focus Carving Bitter Savage Niveots

    Chest has 12% Double Cut dmg
    4x Fine Hardy Niveout
    Gloves Crit 9 / Attack Speed 2.25/ Healing 6%

    Jewellery still Cutter set, working on shadetop tokens for shadowvain
    4x Keen Vyrks


    For Glyphs, I was using Essential Mana's PvE Ninja guide for Double Cut

    While doing dungeons, I dislike timescape as no one is willing to actually teach me.
    I "farm" Abcess normal and channelworks for t8 feed to convert to t9
    FI is still a learning curve for me

    I don't dare attempt other dungeons as I don't wanna be "trap" for the other players.

    Edit: Sorry, I meant the Hydraths(Lv 69) are the problem(tentacle guys)


  • ampzzampzz ✭
    ??? People actually use those ground indicators? I always found them to be untrustworthy.
    • Just study how the BAMs move since the majority of them have super easy tells before they do certain skills which lead to Bleed, Excessive Bleed, or Stun debuffs.
    • Don't spam your Decoy Jutsu unless you have the monster already stunned while you do a rotation to get it back up off cool down ready for a quick tap to get out of attack patterns or use it as an animation cancel for some skills to avoid the damage.
    • You shouldn't have any issue with not having enough invincibility frames either since Shadow Jump should never be on its true cool down. If you are spamming that, you're not playing properly nor using the attack skills themselves as in-combat movement like you should be.
    • Lastly is that 2.0 Attack Speed referring to the +12 enchant or do you have the utterly worthless Increases attack speed by 4.5% rolled as your +9 line? If so, you need to roll that out for more Increases damage by 6% or Decreases skill cooldowns by 7.2%

    Still confused how you are struggling with a Ninja though. If it's still an issue try finding someone with a Priest online to give you buffs, about all the advice I can honestly give.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    You should start by replacing attack speed for more damage and getting etchings eventually if you can. For Teraliths in particular, they normally take a while to respond so always start from the back as suggested. With enough stats and proper rotation these can be killed before they ever attack you if you start at the back. I wouldn't trust the indicators either, the time they appear varies and the range isn't always correct or relevant to the first or second+ hits if the attack is ever multi-hits. It's better to understand the BAMs attack patterns and animations and go off that.

    You probably just need to feel more comfortable and have a bit more confidence. How you feel and think of yourself and your class actually impacts how well or poorly you'll play. Try to feel better about these various situations and just try your best, especially when it comes to dungeons. Only let the tools you have limit yourself if there ever is going to be something, and not you.
  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Basically you are not within your comfort zone in the game. Since leveling up right now is a joke, nobody learns from bams that way. So the experience at 65 is really new. As others suggested, spam your chakra thrust (your stun) and keep your longer i-frames and bomb evade ready for that oh-shi* moment that happens to even veterans.

    My rotation for IoD on ninja is chakra thrust, jagged path (because of powerlink glyph that gives me +10% damage for 3 seconds on anything I throw next) then decoy, powerlinked double cut, powerlinked skyfall and circle of steel. Here I use combo attack (your normal attack) a few times to kill the CDs of the skills I just used. If I derp or the boss turns fast, I use either thousand cuts or the bomb evade (always forget the name. blergh!)

    Another tip. Since you are starting up, try to fight the bams sitting on the flatter places. Avoid rougher surfaces as those will put you at a disadvantage.
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