[TERA PC & Console] En Masse is closing, but TERA lives on! We will continue to support TERA PC (NA) and TERA Console until service is transferred. Stay tuned for more information.
[TERA Console] The Grotto of Lost Souls update (v85) is now live! Read the patch notes here: https://bit.ly/TERACon_v85

[TERA PC] The 64-bit update (v97) is now live. Check out all the changes delivered on August 11 here: https://bit.ly/tera64_patchnotes
[TERA PC & CONSOLE] Summerfest Part 2: The Beach Bash is on from August 11 until September 1! Participate in event activities to earn tokens redeemable for costumes, consumables, mounts, and more! Details: https://bit.ly/tera_sf20

HighWatch server activities

17891012

Comments

  • you guys are onto the more philosophical instead of the actual at this point. anything i've said has been ignored, but i haven't really made amazing points. Shochu made a good point about guilds doing guild runs of things. i don't even touch the LFG, how is the LFG a good indication of ANYTHING? i like to strike up a conversation with people and if i feel good about them then maybe i'll ask em to join some friends and i in a dungeon run. as a person in highwatch i'm getting sick of hearing people [filtered] and moan about the misconception that players on HW want things handed and things to be easier for them... that's just dumb and you are just masturbating ur pro gamer vibes when u talk like that. gear isn't hard to get, enchanting has a little bit of a background formula to it that can circumvent RNG (just dont enchant over and over and waste ur [filtered]) no dungeons i've ran have been unfair or hard, players have been unskilled or poorly informed and under geared. there is a bigger issue here then just a "lack of ambition" in a population of a server and if you believe this then you are just nose in the air [filtered].

    it all starts with information and training.
    is there ANY part of getting to 65 that teaches a class how to [filtered] play? NO
    all the best players apparently leave highwatch, so there goes that route of information.
    not everyone knows to google glyph or rotations.
    some guilds don't even talk to each other.

    I N F O R M A T I O N
  • ZeinsuZeinsu ✭✭
    edited July 2016
    GM of Aspect here, thought I'd chime in.

    I do feel like my group/friends have the most successful groups running SSHM currently on HW though we don't go for min/max runs since we're just having fun with it and we're still learning as we go. Every now and then I'd also get acquaintances asking if I'm doing an SSHM run anytime soon and sometimes I don't have the heart to tell them I've already got a full party. I usually run with my guildies and tag in people from different parts of HW that I know are skilled (yes, I'm being picky) these include our friends and House Targaryen since we're close with them. I'm ashamed to say we don't do learning runs - we've done our fair share of it when we were learning ourselves and helped 5-7 others become familiar with it which we now obviously run with. There were more people we learned it with but we since dropped them for whatever reason - they became agitated/tilted or just plain un-fun to run with, yeah 10 billion wipes are not fun, but blaming others is even worse. Like that one time I had a ninja ask to replace the lancer with a brawler since not enough dps, yet I cleared faster with the same lancer with archer/sorcerer and the ninja never did end up clearing topkek.

    I'd love to do more SSHM runs on HW but as it is mentioned in this thread multiple times, the playerbase is very casual and my group do have fulltime jobs and other commitments. You can still be casual about clearing endgame dungeons - hell, I feel like I'm casual about it. The learning curve is what makes it difficult for these players.
  • edited July 2016
    i actually like the lower pop. means i can actually get my dailies done in the highwatch area without some lil twerp taking kills in the area i was in first. people=worst part of mmos.. well that and rng

    trade channel?.. use the broker thats what its there for

    grouping to level? why? just solo story /vanguard quests to 65 then group(and even then you dont need to , you can grind vanguards and arena and ace dungeons to get geared). even grouping at 65 id only recommend doing guild groups. the ppl in pugs in this game are pretty horrid.
  • Few People here are trolling hard, I have chars, lvl 65 in 4 servers, HW sucks, accept this [filtered] and find a solution, don't try to tell us it is OK, it is not. Just try to find a solution and couple of here gave some solutions.
  • edited July 2016
    GM of Bear Fam, thought I'd chime in about all this~ :p

    Yes, Highwatch is full of casual players. My guild does its best to take in newer players and teach them how to gear and how to play different dungeons. It's a slow process though, because since these are casual players, they don't have the same amount of time to farm as some of us do. It's not that the gearing process is particularly hard, it's that it takes farming, when many on the server simply play to relax.

    And as for why I personally don't run SSHM yet (and rarely run other top tier dungeons), it's because of two things. First, I know I'd be trap there; my dps and survivability are both inconsistent, so I have to keep my eyes out for a dedicated learning run. And second, I'm busy running other dungeons with my guildies. My guild, sadly, seems to be the kind that this thread takes exception to - we have some skilled players, but we focus on improving each other above achieving endgame goals. We are active, but we're not focused on dungeons DFHM and SSHM, since they won't help us get our guildies into good gear (i.e. Slaugher and Starfall) and wealth. Also, our inclination towards guild runs means we don't always contribute to LFG, even when running dungeons.

    Yes, Highwatch is less populous than many other servers. And yes, our players' average skill pales in comparison to those in servers like TR or MT. Personally, I would support a merge between HW and AV. But HW does have activity, albeit in quiet corners; and also has an allure that brings people back, and that makes me think it has its place on the server list too~ :3<3

    And yeah I realize I may sound dumb, but I'm not too terrible a Sorc/Mystic and I farmed for the majority of what I have (the rest being freely given gifts from friends), so I think this at least deserves consideration: Highwatch is a good place to make friends. It may be [filtered] as a traditional MMO server, but it is active, just in a different way, and admittedly a way that isn't conducive to getting endgame content done. It actually reminds me of how RP servers in other games turn out. I don't think the issue is so much that HW has a 'Recommended' tag on it; it's that MT and TR and the other servers don't. I'd like to see those get readjusted so that MT and TR (or at least AV and CH) are 'Recommended'; and that could mean making HW 'Medium' or another way you could put it that doesn't make it sound like the game's dying - if that's indeed a concern that EME has.
  • Alec13Alec13 ✭✭
    This is not a problem of ppl not playing, but ppl playing only with friends, guildmates and ppl from team speak only. They said to me "Okay you are good player, but we will take you only if you come to us with team speak". TS only slow me down so i do not use and cos English is not my main language I found it hard for me using TS cos I focus on boss mechanics and when someone says something if you cant hear him well enough at first you try to think of what he said and when I did understand that he said the same thing I was going to do I would lie on the ground dead at that point. It is a broken system in this game, but no one care to fix all that Guild system, IM and whisper systems. For me I just need to watch videos, read guide and play few times to understand well the new instance. Problem comes when you play with different ppl cos they have different play styles and you have to adapt to them, but I found it fun and a challenge to do so. Spacecats says that there is no problem with population cos they log in, but around 90% of the ppl only use TS or Whisper to talk to each other meaning that new players are not welcome.
  • Spacecats wrote: »
    While I'm not going to discuss the specifics about player population, I can tell you for a fact that Highwatch has very close to the same number of active people on other servers like Celestial Hills and Tempest Reach, and is considered quite healthy on our end. There are no plans for any server merges.

    I think what Counterpoint said about self-perpetuating prophecies is true. When a discussion like "X server is dying" begins, it's an easy thing to catch on. Expectations change based off hearing it.

    On a related topic, did you know item enchanting above level 10 is 3x more likely to be successful on the 23rd try?

    (well it's not)

    What about VOT? i cant do sshm,
    Spacecats wrote: »
    While I'm not going to discuss the specifics about player population, I can tell you for a fact that Highwatch has very close to the same number of active people on other servers like Celestial Hills and Tempest Reach, and is considered quite healthy on our end. There are no plans for any server merges.

    I think what Counterpoint said about self-perpetuating prophecies is true. When a discussion like "X server is dying" begins, it's an easy thing to catch on. Expectations change based off hearing it.

    On a related topic, did you know item enchanting above level 10 is 3x more likely to be successful on the 23rd try?

    (well it's not)
    Spacecats wrote: »
    While I'm not going to discuss the specifics about player population, I can tell you for a fact that Highwatch has very close to the same number of active people on other servers like Celestial Hills and Tempest Reach, and is considered quite healthy on our end. There are no plans for any server merges.

    I think what Counterpoint said about self-perpetuating prophecies is true. When a discussion like "X server is dying" begins, it's an easy thing to catch on. Expectations change based off hearing it.

    On a related topic, did you know item enchanting above level 10 is 3x more likely to be successful on the 23rd try?

    (well it's not)

    What about VOT?? we cant do endgame dung, all the ppl left of the server cuz is dead as hell..
    Spacecats wrote: »
    While I'm not going to discuss the specifics about player population, I can tell you for a fact that Highwatch has very close to the same number of active people on other servers like Celestial Hills and Tempest Reach, and is considered quite healthy on our end. There are no plans for any server merges.

    I think what Counterpoint said about self-perpetuating prophecies is true. When a discussion like "X server is dying" begins, it's an easy thing to catch on. Expectations change based off hearing it.

    On a related topic, did you know item enchanting above level 10 is 3x more likely to be successful on the 23rd try?

    (well it's not)

    What about VOT?? All players are leaving to another server.. We cant do endgame dung, rip pve and pvp.. what we gonna do now?? stay afk in the game? http://imgur.com/a/44Y4X, and now is more dead, then before.
  • navjack27navjack27
    edited July 2016
    nice low quality post there @809 like seriously?

    @Alec13 i'm a big proponent for voice chatting with guildmates while we run something. TYPING slows me down, talking especially with voice-activation detection is just the bees-knees. i guess i could understand non-English speakers having issue with this, but then... this is NA-TERA... non-English speaking is even a problem in battlegrounds, this is where that whole joke of BR BR BR stuff comes from. how many games have you played that were losses due to YOLO-I-DON'T-UNDERSTAND-YOU-SO-I'M-GOING-TO-PLAY-BAD-ON-SPITE.

    EDIT: more i talk and read, the more i think... are the superior players actually just anti-social obsessives that consume themselves with the idea that they are quality but totally ignore the fact that you must pass down knowledge? but then defend their frustrated attempts at teaching, probably the wrong type of player, and gearing, again probably the wrong type of player, and they are just angry and think things are dying due to their inability to read social cues and situations?

    EDIT AGAIN: when you have an mmo, you have a special population that will be playing. you will have some "normal [filtered] people" some "aspies" some "sociopaths" and just like a majority of the population of the world, "idiots". most adults read and comprehend at a 3rd grade level
  • navjack27 wrote: »
    nice low quality post there @809 like seriously?

    @Alec13 i'm a big proponent for voice chatting with guildmates while we run something. TYPING slows me down, talking especially with voice-activation detection is just the bees-knees. i guess i could understand non-English speakers having issue with this, but then... this is NA-TERA... non-English speaking is even a problem in battlegrounds, this is where that whole joke of BR BR BR stuff comes from. how many games have you played that were losses due to YOLO-I-DON'T-UNDERSTAND-YOU-SO-I'M-GOING-TO-PLAY-BAD-ON-SPITE.

    if you did not understand that's your problem, trying to speak your language here and tell me I'm br and poor quality of writing? Rly? i understand and speak 3 kind of language spanich,english and portuguese, what about you?? you only knows how to say ''poor quality of writing'' you're making american ppl look more ignorant, go to school kid.

    AND NOT, IM NOT BR.
  • navjack27navjack27
    edited July 2016
    did i ever call you out on that, you weren't even the one after then mention, @Alec13 was... and i wasn't making fun of anyone, you are just making an [filtered] of yourself, stop!

    EDIT: i was pointing out that you quoted and then replied and then quoted and replied. no need to do that at all, were you making a point? it was lost in the redundant quotes of @Spacecats , whom i respect quite a bit for the fact that he even replied at all to this thread. one wrong thing he could of said and that could of been his job. you know he reads this thread and just has to keep his mouth SHUT.
  • navjack27 wrote: »
    did i ever call you out on that, you weren't even the one after then mention, @Alec13 was... and i wasn't making fun of anyone, you are just making an [filtered] of yourself, stop!
    navjack27 wrote: »
    did i ever call you out on that, you weren't even the one after then mention, @Alec13 was... and i wasn't making fun of anyone, you are just making an [filtered] of yourself, stop!

    I'll just want totell you to stop criticizing others for web pages, if you have to criticize someone tell him front of him, have a good day.
  • Alec13Alec13 ✭✭
    edited July 2016
    navjack27
    I am trying to say that I do not need Team Speak, just need 2-3 runs as practice and cos I am old player I will get it all faster and after that no one need's to tell me what to do in dungeon or CS cos will always play for the team. I can't change people that play solo all the time and do not want to play with the others as one. If you go to bed with a woman I guess she tell's you what to do every time? For everyone is the same with some practice more or less depending on the person how fast will get into things.
  • Alec13Alec13 ✭✭
    Forgot to mention that there are kids around 7 years old that are playing the game and they do not understand much of it even language so you cursing them means that they parents could seat next to them and read your crazy comments :chuffed:
  • PetasoPetaso ✭✭
    Alec13 wrote: »
    Forgot to mention that there are kids around 7 years old that are playing the game and they do not understand much of it even language so you cursing them means that they parents could seat next to them and read your crazy comments :chuffed:

    You do understand this a Mature game? Rated M? If parents are right next to their kids or letting them play this game that would be their fault. They only have themselves to blame.
  • SametbhSametbh ✭✭✭
    Still no word from the community manager @Spacecats or EME acknowledging there are some problems in low-population servers? I think that's what we want honestly, to make sure we're not being ignored by EME.
This discussion has been closed.