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We need more Keen Inner Armor on Market !!

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  • PlagueFWCPlagueFWC ✭✭✭
    Actually any way without rng would be fine. Or at least no more than 1 layer of rng
  • ShikineShikine ✭✭✭✭
    Ummm no? Removing the white innerwear from the token box and implementing the already coded Innerwear transformation box from the Ktera is a totally free and alreadya available way to increase the supply.

    Noone wants free stuff handed to them, but these are useless in their current form, and further application would be nice. Like how you can combine useless Niveots or Cruxes into a new one.

    Heck, sell the transformation box for EMP and in the Pvp shop like dyads... just make it available.
  • TWMagimayTWMagimay ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shikine wrote: »
    TWMagimay wrote: »
    Shikine wrote: »
    TWMagimay wrote: »
    Isn't there golden innerwear in the rewards emporium thing?

    There is on the 8th shelf... not many people reached that :(

    Welp, s/he was asking for a non-RNG way to get it....one already exists....follow the train of thought....

    Man... it is about the quantity too... we already had discussions how hard it is to reach a high tier without buying EMP or anything, don't be like that.. and it is a +16 crit one.... where do you get the +12 ones? .... train..of...thought...

    Those discussions were had before they started giving out reward points like candy.
    Why do you need +12 if you can get +16?
    And, from what I see in this topic, people are asking for a) cash shop way to get it and b) way to get it without RNG. Oh, and they are specifically saying they don't want it "handed" to them. What they are asking for already exists in the game so I think your train got derailed.
  • BrofessorXBrofessorX ✭✭✭
    edited July 2016
    i do ghillie every day on 3 chars and i noticed that since i got elite..(prob just rng) i dont get as many goldfinger tokens.. 2 or 4 drop and i used to get 5, 6 very often.
    maybe since elite get twice the entries its a slightly lower rate?
  • ShikineShikine ✭✭✭✭
    TWMagimay wrote: »
    Shikine wrote: »
    TWMagimay wrote: »
    Shikine wrote: »
    TWMagimay wrote: »
    Isn't there golden innerwear in the rewards emporium thing?

    There is on the 8th shelf... not many people reached that :(

    Welp, s/he was asking for a non-RNG way to get it....one already exists....follow the train of thought....

    Man... it is about the quantity too... we already had discussions how hard it is to reach a high tier without buying EMP or anything, don't be like that.. and it is a +16 crit one.... where do you get the +12 ones? .... train..of...thought...

    Those discussions were had before they started giving out reward points like candy.
    Why do you need +12 if you can get +16?
    And, from what I see in this topic, people are asking for a) cash shop way to get it and b) way to get it without RNG. Oh, and they are specifically saying they don't want it "handed" to them. What they are asking for already exists in the game so I think your train got derailed.

    1. Getting a few thousand while personally even after playing every day I need 66k to reach the next tier does not jump me to tier 8 magically. These are not candy, getting tier 8 is still unobtainable for many.
    2. Because I can't afford the +16? I would be happy with an affordable +12.

    You say we can already get them through EMP and free methods, which is true.
    I say the problem is with the quantity which is cause by the acquisiton methods we have are badly designed... you are trying to tell us that paying for horrid rng or paying to get into tier 8 or paying with my life to farm out a single innerwear box with bad rng from ghillie is an okay state.

    Welcome to reality where it is sooo not okay that the innerwear market is basically non-existing because every other box is worth more to open, because you do not get back your investment even if you open a lot, because noone wants to buy a +12 innerwear for 120k, and the chances to get a crap is too high.
    It being available in the high! tier reward emporium does not help as the turnover rate for the +16 is slow... and the sorry drop from goldfinger is no way enough to supply the demand.

    If seeing and endurance or HP or MP or Power innerwear on a DPS or Tank would satisfy the community it would be okay. But the demand for the Crit innerwear is sky high compared to the rest. Bad game design? Maybe, but that doesn't change the fact that what we have now is not okay. Not enough, which is proven by the market and player base... because there is noone selling?

    Make it available to choose from the different innerwear loot boxes from the goldfinger token store (everyone will buy the crit one until prices equilibrate).
    Put +12 crit innerwear to tier 6.
    Lower the price of Innerwear loot boxes.
    Introduce the innerwear combination box to get rid of the lot of green Endurance, HP and MP replenishment innerwears and white innerwears. There are countless ways to make it balanced again.
  • My mystic has yellow endurance inner armor. I don't remember how many boxes it took but i know it wasn't over $20 worth of emp, since I was poor at the time.

    I've spent at least $60 trying to get crit inner armor and the best i've gotten was a green set. I could have sold the boxes themselves and just bought the armor off the market ffs. Luckily on CH there are a few sets for sale, though their like 300k
  • TWMagimayTWMagimay ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shikine wrote: »
    I say the problem is with the quantity which is cause by the acquisiton methods we have are badly designed... you are trying to tell us that paying for horrid rng or paying to get into tier 8 or paying with my life to farm out a single innerwear box with bad rng from ghillie is an okay state.

    I never said it was an "ok state", I said it's what people in this topic are predominantly asking for: a non-RNg, possibly cash shop related way of getting the crit panties.
    Welcome to reality where it is sooo not okay that the innerwear market is basically non-existing because every other box is worth more to open, because you do not get back your investment even if you open a lot, because noone wants to buy a +12 innerwear for 120k, and the chances to get a crap is too high.
    It being available in the high! tier reward emporium does not help as the turnover rate for the +16 is slow... and the sorry drop from goldfinger is no way enough to supply the demand.

    If seeing and endurance or HP or MP or Power innerwear on a DPS or Tank would satisfy the community it would be okay. But the demand for the Crit innerwear is sky high compared to the rest. Bad game design? Maybe, but that doesn't change the fact that what we have now is not okay. Not enough, which is proven by the market and player base... because there is noone selling?

    Make it available to choose from the different innerwear loot boxes from the goldfinger token store (everyone will buy the crit one until prices equilibrate).
    Put +12 crit innerwear to tier 6.
    Lower the price of Innerwear loot boxes.
    Introduce the innerwear combination box to get rid of the lot of green Endurance, HP and MP replenishment innerwears and white innerwears. There are countless ways to make it balanced again.

    I don't think you actually understand WHY the market has dried up. It has nothing to do with t8 being too high, it has nothing to do with the drop rate from the boxes being too low. It's all about WHERE the tokens come from. Do you remember the panty market back when GG dropped gold and Vault was sort of worth doing? Do you think it's a coincidence that the market dried up after the rewards from both those instances were nerfed? *makes train sounds*
  • ShikineShikine ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2016
    TWMagimay wrote: »
    Shikine wrote: »
    I say the problem is with the quantity which is cause by the acquisiton methods we have are badly designed... you are trying to tell us that paying for horrid rng or paying to get into tier 8 or paying with my life to farm out a single innerwear box with bad rng from ghillie is an okay state.

    I never said it was an "ok state", I said it's what people in this topic are predominantly asking for: a non-RNg, possibly cash shop related way of getting the crit panties.
    Welcome to reality where it is sooo not okay that the innerwear market is basically non-existing because every other box is worth more to open, because you do not get back your investment even if you open a lot, because noone wants to buy a +12 innerwear for 120k, and the chances to get a crap is too high.
    It being available in the high! tier reward emporium does not help as the turnover rate for the +16 is slow... and the sorry drop from goldfinger is no way enough to supply the demand.

    If seeing and endurance or HP or MP or Power innerwear on a DPS or Tank would satisfy the community it would be okay. But the demand for the Crit innerwear is sky high compared to the rest. Bad game design? Maybe, but that doesn't change the fact that what we have now is not okay. Not enough, which is proven by the market and player base... because there is noone selling?

    Make it available to choose from the different innerwear loot boxes from the goldfinger token store (everyone will buy the crit one until prices equilibrate).
    Put +12 crit innerwear to tier 6.
    Lower the price of Innerwear loot boxes.
    Introduce the innerwear combination box to get rid of the lot of green Endurance, HP and MP replenishment innerwears and white innerwears. There are countless ways to make it balanced again.

    I don't think you actually understand WHY the market has dried up. It has nothing to do with t8 being too high, it has nothing to do with the drop rate from the boxes being too low. It's all about WHERE the tokens come from. Do you remember the panty market back when GG dropped gold and Vault was sort of worth doing? Do you think it's a coincidence that the market dried up after the rewards from both those instances were nerfed? *makes train sounds*

    It was not just Ghillie, but DS too. That doesn't change the fact that it is still crap.

    Sorry the "available from the emporium" or "what they are asking for already exists in the game" doesn't necesserily take you to old ghillie days :3 my bad
  • SageWinduSageWindu High Seat of the Jedi Council ✭✭✭✭✭
    A real easy fix I see is to just make GF tokens bankable. I personally have 42 tokens on my priest that are just kind of hanging out. And I don't do GG (anymore) as my priest because HAH! Yeah, sure. :chuffed:

    Think about it. You do some GG runs, bank your tokens, inners for everyone at a more frequent rate. This is turn drives the market price down (hopefully) since the supply will better match the demand. Et cetera, et cetera.
  • KetothKetoth ✭✭✭✭
    If you consider that innerwear is the only piece that you will never need replace after you buy(Unless they release something higher than superior tier), i would say is a good investment.

    As everyone pointed out, the price is high because: gold inflation, people don't do GG anymore as used to be AND we just had the ninja release where a lot of people bought the innerwear reducing the supply
  • rexoerexoe ✭✭✭
    just wait you get rares for doin the solo dungeons
  • MinazukiMinazuki ✭✭✭
    edited July 2016
    Spend time to farm gold/GFT in game or spend money for cash shop...

    Those inner or elite scroll on broker are other spend their money to open the box/cash shop...

    Let ask this... why they need to open the box sell it for a low price while YOU DONT WANT OPEN IT/SPEND YOUR MONEY/TIME?
  • Like you need the Keen anyway, get the power you can easily make up crit in other ways.
    If you really want it get out Mr. CreditCard and start swipin boy.
  • MehbahMehbah ✭✭
    Part of the problem is that BHS has made everything about DPS. Tanking is no longer a thing, there is only front crit. Mystics are now DPS. Everything that isn't a dungeon is a solo boss/BAM fight. Crit inners are the only viable inners now if you aren't a buffbot. DPS want it, tanks want it, even healers want it. Both brawlers and ninjas want crit inners, so with the influx of new DPS roles crit inners skyrocket in price while the others change very little, or even go down. It's only going to become worse in the future too, since the upcoming class is confirmed to not be a healer.
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