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EME, are you going to nerf Brawler in PVP with Ninja Patch?

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  • JerichowJerichow ✭✭✭✭
    You know, when a class is repeatedly nerfed for 10%-20% overall damage and still needs further nerfs I think it would be appropriate to reflect on what went wrong prior to making new classes. I'm looking at you BHS.

    One would think, yes. However you have to consider that this game is developed by Bluehole who can't balance classes if their lives depended on it.

    I mean... seriously with the Brawler:

    - More DPS than DPS classes
    - Tanky as a Lancer
    - Block significantly improves DPS for a few seconds
    - Self-heal
    - Anti-Death Passive
    - Multiple hard CCs, most of which are AoE

    Like, this is the ideal example for what to avoid when making a new class in a game. Let's just hope they actually learned something from this catastrophe and the ninja isn't so OP that it breaks the game again.
  • Mobius1 wrote: »
    Ok, so melee focuses enemy healers, and the bralwer just stuns them there instead. Sorry, try again.
    Only good brawlers peel their healers, and they are extremely rare... So in 99,99% times, if you are attacking the healers (that are mostly right in the pyre or behind the pyre, but never at the side of the brawlers), you wont get hit by brawlers, as they are in 99,99% of times in that spot i said before!
  • Mobius1Mobius1 ✭✭✭
    I hate to break it to you, but it's the good brawlers that make FWC so lopsided.

    Stuns that can't be cleansed are just stupid.

    And considering brawlers are getting hit with a crazy hard nerf, only proves how OP they are.

    But regardless of all that - I'd bet money that brawlers have caused people to curse at their screen more than any other class!
  • HazezoidHazezoid ✭✭✭
    edited May 2016
    Brawler are pretty aids.
    @Helenne Come and queue team 3v3 I'll show you how aids brawlers are.
  • PlagueFWCPlagueFWC ✭✭✭
    "Superman is so weak lol all you need is kryptonite pls buff him."

    Just because something has a counter doesn't mean it's not broken >.>
  • SawaoSawao ✭✭
    If you are defending brawler's current state in pvp, you lose your right to an opinion as far as I'm concerned.
  • UltemeciaUltemecia ✭✭✭
    Sawao wrote: »
    dinners wrote: »
    Brawler makes pvp no fun.
    Ktera already have nerfed Brawler in PVP long time ago.
    Just patch Bralwer 3rd counter punch that pulls everyone in.
    You are just too lazy with making pvp balance.

    You do realize that Enmasse are Publishers and not Developers right? The people you should be QQ'ing to is BHS.

    There were enough complaints to get the brawler 20% pvp nerf early. I don't see why it would be an issue to get the third chained Counter removed early as well. It really does make pvp considerably less fun. It's already bad enough that Ground Pound is like... an actual thing.

    Thing about that is I'm sure our crying didn't affect this very much. BHS probably saw the issue and patched it and sent it to EME, then EME delivered it to us like they did it.
  • Class changes for ninja patch are based on Class change 8, found here

    https://sites.google.com/site/yoshasstuff/class-change-8


    the changes for brawlers are this


    [Brawler]
    Damage Nerf
    PvE and PvP overall damage will be reduced by 10%.
    Counter
    The 1st consecutive skill on Counter will have reduced distance traveling from 9.6m to 5.6m.
  • OurlordOurlord ✭✭
    Sykee wrote: »
    809 wrote: »
    Brawler are not op in pvp kid, i can kill brawlers easy with reaper,sorc,serk,gunner etc you all just sucks at pvp.

    come visit MT friend.

    Come and visist Vot kid, you dont come here and talk [filtered] to me, trap white boy.mt sucks.
  • 809 wrote: »
    Sykee wrote: »
    809 wrote: »
    Brawler are not op in pvp kid, i can kill brawlers easy with reaper,sorc,serk,gunner etc you all just sucks at pvp.

    come visit MT friend.

    Come and visist Vot kid, you dont come here and talk [filtered] to me, trap white boy.mt sucks.

    Did you hear that you trap white boy go and visist VoT.

  • Mobius1Mobius1 ✭✭✭
    edited May 2016
    Oh snap! I think he wants to E RP with you!
  • yes brawller has been confirmed nerfed in the ktera patches
  • 809 wrote: »
    Sykee wrote: »
    809 wrote: »
    Brawler are not op in pvp kid, i can kill brawlers easy with reaper,sorc,serk,gunner etc you all just sucks at pvp.

    come visit MT friend.

    Come and visist Vot kid, you dont come here and talk [filtered] to me, trap white boy.mt sucks.

    :c why would i visit a dead server like VOT, from what i've heard the top guilds on Vot are too scared to come to MT. But i was just making a suggestion, since Vot is so easy for you why not visit MT. I'd love to see this god of PVP who wipes the floor with brawlers using any class.
  • voidyvoidy ✭✭✭✭✭
    Laaynad wrote: »
    Class changes for ninja patch are based on Class change 8, found here

    https://sites.google.com/site/yoshasstuff/class-change-8


    the changes for brawlers are this


    [Brawler]
    Damage Nerf
    PvE and PvP overall damage will be reduced by 10%.
    Counter
    The 1st consecutive skill on Counter will have reduced distance traveling from 9.6m to 5.6m.

    Whew, well that takes care of that. So glad brawlers won't be OP now that they got a 10% damage reduction and reduced traveling distance.
    Seriously though, no changes to the main problem: their crowd controls. That ground pound thing is RIDICULOUS. That third strike spinny skill is RIDICULOUS. The way they can charge off in any direction, carrying players with them effortlessly as they go, is RIDICULOUS.

    But at least they got a 10% damage nerf. We did it lads, we fixed brawlers. :^)
  • edited May 2016
    PlagueFWC wrote: »
    even if brawlers did 1 damage per skill, they'd still be the most broken class in the game simply because they can effortlessly hold down an entire group for enough time to have a sorc fireblast everyone into oblivion.

    ^ this sums it up completely. Even if they did no damage at all, all their buggy skills that keep people stuttered and stunned and lagged isn't fair. Makes no sense how they can punch the ground and cause you to get stunlocked so far away. Players look so noob also when they use a brawler, makes a spacebar reaper look pro when you actually see how button smashy and blindless a players skill requirement for a brawler is.

    Also, I can't stand it how they can just super dash or whatever the hell its called out of the way. They can run a mile off screen making it impossible to ever actually kill one unless they have a least some sense of honor and fight to the death. Most are so cowardly, the second they are slightly losing, they bug dash off the screen, wait for cooldowns to reset and try again... no other class can escape death so easily and unfairly. May as well not even give them a combat run speed reduction when they can just burst around that quickly and can't be stopped.

    Lastly, their heal gives them far too much hp back. A class this OP and broken shouldn't have a heal, let alone one that heals them almost to full health. And on top of that... they take such a small amount of damage. Ever try shooting one with a siege in CS, does barely any damage to a brawler compared to other classes, thats just not fair or balanced.

    I think i mentioned it above slightly, but I will repeat, this class is almost stun proof. Makes fighting one the most unfair fight in history if your a class that needs to CC to actually be able to win a fight. If you manage to actually get one near death... they nerd rush off the screen, or heal themselves to full using their hacked heals. Great fun, good balance TERA.

    Gunners and reapers are still broken and OP also, but are mostly only deadly in skilled hands, luckily most are garbage and can be dealt with.... unlike brawlers where even garbage ones can still kill you. Still though, reapers are rigged, first time i made one i hit lvl 58, did a CS right then and got first place in kills my very first hour ever playing one, thats not right.
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