DS Uppers drops.

MarkDRx · July 2016

Personally I like the drops.

3 Amethyst
1 Ruby
200 gold (emerald only one person can get)
200 Masterwork Alk
60? Tier 10 Feedstock
40 Goldfinger Tokens
3 Goddess's Blessings
2 Dyad Niveot Structures
3 Tier 10 MES
1 Random VM7 Design (godbless u eme)
50 Noctenium Loot Boxes
Random chance for a Dreadspire Uppers Ticket.
Random chance for a Smart Dyad
Random chance for a diamond.

Discuss your thoughts.

My only questions/concerns are the feedstock and ticket. I thought everyone was supposed to get the feedstock (so 300 each) not 60 feed each. Same deal with the ticket at the moment it may not be working as intended as only 1 person recieves the ticket when it drops which is exactly how the ticket Kelsaik worked before it was hotfixed (Thank you for the fast response on this EME, alot of my friends were pretty bummed that we had to run 5 lowers for one shot at uppers

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bzhen0915 · July 2016

You also forgot 50 Noctenium chests that everyone gets. Makes the run that much more worth it.

Starbuzz · July 2016

You can also get a smart dyad as well :chuffed: I do wish the fs would be a tad higher though.

MarkDRx · July 2016

bzhen0915 wrote: »

You also forgot 50 Noctenium chests that everyone gets. Makes the run that much more worth it.

Thanks that slipped my mind I also added the diamond drop as well :pleased:

SacredHeart · July 2016

This sounds so cool, like jackpot for me. Is this real to go through upper floors in full Slaughter +12. Or it's only for awaiken staffall?

MarkDRx · July 2016

SacredHeart wrote: »

This sounds so cool, like jackpot for me. Is this real to go through upper floors in full Slaughter +12. Or it's only for awaiken staffall?

You would have a very hard time doing this in a non-vm gear set. The damage dealt by all bosses will one to two shot you in +12 slaughter. It CAN be done, but you are not going to have a fun time.

Sylviette · July 2016

It's an endgame dungeons, so if you go in there in slaughter +12 weapon you won't be able to carry your own weight (most of the time, except for healers). Not saying having +15 sf weapon would automatically qualify someone, but it's a recommended base. If you have a party who can carry you then go ahead.

Impious · July 2016

Stop QQ, good lucky next run.

bzhen0915 · July 2016

@SacredHeart It is definitely doable in slaughter. However the bosses hurt a lot (Especially Kaprima), and if you're tanking, there are some hits you simply cannot block or take.

DPS wise, it's definitely doable, but you need to know your class extremely well. As a benchmark regardless of your gear, you need to be hitting 800k/s on Queen for a double healer party or 600k/s for a single healer party, or else your party will suffer and make the run extremely difficult to clear when the timer runs out (or someone else has to make it up in DPS and carry you). This is possible in slaughter, but again you need to know your class extremely well, and perhaps for learning purposes, it might be best to invest in either SF or Imperator if you are new.

If you are a healer, it's definitely doable in slaughter (even Dreadnaught if you're skilled enough), just again need to be aware that certain attacks that will one shot you.

canikizu · July 2016

SacredHeart wrote: »

This sounds so cool, like jackpot for me. Is this real to go through upper floors in full Slaughter +12. Or it's only for awaiken staffall?

It's a timer based dungeons. You have around 15 minutes to kill each boss, or time will run out and boss will go super enraged and most likely oneshot you no matter whatever gear you are on. Slaughter can do it if you are extremely skilled, but it's like catch22, skilled people usually can farm and afford themselves better gear, so if you are still in Slaughter, it's most likely the dungeon will be really hard for you. But there's no harm in trying though, it's all for good fun!

Of course if you are healer, then that's another matter, healers are less gear dependent than tanks and dps.

Deleted User · July 2016

When ppl say it is possible with Slaughter +12 actually is the only case meant when it is an alt of a skilled player (who has done many runs before with better gear) and requires the rest of the party to be +15 to carry him/deal enough dmg. So unless you are a healer who is familiar with bosses, it is nearly impossible to do it with slaughter +12.

PaulisAwesome · July 2016

Xerray wrote: »

When ppl say it is possible with Slaughter +12 actually is the only case meant when it is an alt of a skilled player (who has done many runs before with better gear) and requires the rest of the party to be +15 to carry him/deal enough dmg. So unless you are a healer who is familiar with bosses, it is nearly impossible to do it with slaughter +12.

This is untrue.
I just did a DSU run earlier today on my archer which only has a +12 slaughter wep and +15vm7 chest, +12vm6 gloves and +12 slaughter boots.
Dual heals + brawler + ninja.
We were all inbetween 780k(vm7 brawler) and 613k/s(vm6 ninja). I was at 700k/s
Due to some derping we were short 30s on timer but owell.

I firmly believe a skilled party could do it in full +12 slaughter without a problem...People don't realize how op slaughter is compared to starfall

msoltyspl · July 2016

It's an endgame dungeons, so if you go in there in slaughter +12 weapon you won't be able to carry your own weight (most of the time, except for healers)

Lol, that's utter nonsense.

It's pitty how badly a primitive casino geargrind can damage the game. Both from players' "beliefs" point of view as well as actual balancing (I'm looking at you "solo" content or actually anything that isn't DSU or SSHM with remaining not-yet-removed content being trivialized to the point of being hilarious in most cases). Though bhs and balancing ... but that's different subject.

Tickets should be removed completely from uppers. This is something dismissed from last patch when tickets were un-tradable.

Tickets shouldn't exist at all in the game. Period.

Any player group should be able to go there and practice / try to clear it whenever they want, as it's one of the two (another being sshm) fun things remaining in this game.

Actually what should happen is that we should get proper MCHM, ACHM, FoKHM, BTHM and KNHM back (with extra stuff and mechanics) and get rid of DSU.

But sadly in BHS eyes the game is not about challenging and varied action combat, but about mindlessly pulling levers of one arm bandit machines.

WG7WWET5R3 · July 2016

DSU is doable in slaughter gear. But skilled and geared ppl won't take you becuz they want fast clear.

Deleted User · July 2016

Didnt you read what I said? I wrote that it might be a case for a veteran player. New player who probably havent done any hm/old dungeons at all, which is most likely if he didnt have any gear, wont be able to do so.
And even (or especially) if the dps arent that great in the case, they still were +15. If they had +12 slaughter the overall dps would be much less which would result in trouble in clearing.

So, +12 slaughter veteran dps, who knows his class, etc = okayish for DSU, esp if rest is +15
+12 new player = big nope. Thats why it is advised to get +15 to compensate at least a little.

RedRamii · July 2016

Personally I think the drops in uppers suck. Yu could farm other stuff in 1/6th the time. Uppers takes aprox 1 hour to clear(16-22). SSHM takes 10-14m to clear, and has a vanguard.

DS Uppers drops.

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