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Question.... about healers patch...

okay so i HEARD that Mystics now BURST HEAL like Priests>.> (after patch because apparently thats what EVERYONE is saying according K TERA) is this true??... then WHAT is the point of a priest being in the game only to actually be a buff bot? I know its another QQ topic again as many will say, but i really just would like to know about it..... Because! if the mystics are going to actually burst heal more then priests! and if so with all those buffs priests wont be needed anymore right?

Dont get me wrong guys...i love Mystic Class, as i second main it, but i just cant replace what i am which is a main priest, and i CANT reroll because i just cant which means if the things turn out bad ill just quit lol because im to proud, anyways any1 knows anything?

Note: Dont be rude :confounded: just making a question, i am not that satisfied that we cant even get a crit resist buff on one of our skills so that way it would actually make priest a bit more useful with the changes.
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  • Idi0ticGeniusIdi0ticGenius ✭✭✭✭✭
    KTERA are being both Super Elitist + Cry baby at the same time. The majority of public community comments and such people see (and what I share) are usually small portion of the whole.

    Priest is still viable, it's just that the disparity in which class in more favorable is happening again.

    It was Brawler > Lancer, now after that has kinda relieved a bit with tons of Lancer buffs, history repeats itself with Mystic > Priest.
  • BanimBanim ✭✭✭
    A mystic can't burst heal as much as a priest, period. They have gotten improvements to their healing capabilities since December 2014 and are getting a bit more with the ninja patch, but priests still have the upper hand when it comes to raw healing power and variety of tools to manage your party and bad situations. Mystic's titanic favor gets an increased base healing with the tradeoff of removing the heal over time effect, which will make it more bursty. Boomerang pulse has always been bursty and there are no changes there as far as I know. While I'm at it, I might as well list the things that aren't burst heals per se, but also add to their overall healing... Arun's vitae motes will stack twice when eaten in succession, instead of just refreshing the timer, but people actually need to stop and pick them up, if they are there in the first place. Warding Totem is an ok but not too strong heal over time, with a minor shield that lasts a few seconds, absorbs little damage and thus isn't terribly useful. Thrall of life can heal and cleanse your allies with certain stages of its rotation but you don't have direct control of it and it's a pretty negligible effect. That's the extent of what mystic can do to heal.

    Priests have healing immersion (which can reset if glyphed) and healing circle for very strong AoE burst heals, both of these are also affected by noctenium and you could glyph them for even more healing (though I think it's rather unnecessary). They are also much easier to control than mystic's boomerang in my opinion. They also have restorative burst which is a very powerful heal over time skill, you can even throw a regeneration circle for further HoT, although weaker and on longer CD. Not to mention Kaia's Shield which absorbs almost 40k damage and you can also glyph for yet another HoT. Focus heal, I think, will (or already is? not sure) weaker than mystic's titanic favor, but still pretty strong and if you don't favor Kaia's Shield cooldown reduction chest line, you can roll focus heal healing power. Also, while mystic's cleansing skill has its advantages, priest's is way more straightforward and easy to use. I'd say Priest wins on healing.

    For high rank score runs priests were never wanted in the first place so nothing new there.

    Now, mystics offer more party and individual DPS, but that's not the topic of this thread. Double healer is a pretty common party setup nowadays and has been for a really long time anyway, neither class will be out of a job nor out of demand as the trend continues next patch.

    I don't know, I've been maining my priest for over 3 years now, and also have been playing my mystic for a similarly long time. I have no intention of abandoning my priest as a main, and I can play both classes just fine depending on mood and need, and mostly focus my resources, gearing, costuming and achievements on my priest as I've always done. The changes don't really worry me even if they make mystics more attractive, priests still have a lot to offer. If you think your priest is gonna be useless or lag behind by all means play mystic more, nothing wrong with it, but I know I love my priest and people love it too.
  • Ty so much for the replys i was considering quiting the game due to hear so much bs i love both healing classes as they are they have both their diferences. I do know that mytics will allways be the ones for score runs idm really as i dont care that much about score runs i just really like smooth runs without any problems. Anyways ty guys got a little.hope now xD
  • voidyvoidy ✭✭✭✭✭
    What Banim says is true, but it makes me wonder why kTera's priest forum is full of coffins if things aren't as bad as they seem.
    Priests on ktera at least have the Talents to give them some more cool stuff to work with. And yet they're still posting coffins and crying about being kicked or whatever. Our priests won't even get Talents.

    As a priest main, I obviously want to believe things'll be fine. But then I look at kTera and it looks pretty damn grim unless you've already got friends willing to go places with you.
  • Yeah thats what im afraid of but i dont know maybe if there is so much complaints just maybe bhs will do some priest buff in the future because lets put it this way we all know priests were superior for years but also we know that this so called balance is bs and by that this isnt making priests a par with mystics at all kuz we barely got any decent buff. At least they could have added that crit resist as a buff... this would make priest a bit more viable...

    well i guess that k tera community is then ultra toxic. Lol i wanna see where this goes but meh :/
  • FaunBaitFaunBait ✭✭✭
    edited May 2016
    We SHOULD NOT compare our healers to KTera's.

    This is why Priests are complaining about Mystics:

    KTera DPS Mystic <----Click

    Although the upcoming healer patch does come with DPS skill changes for both Priests and Mystics, KTera Mystics simply have way more DPS from the Talent System. There is just a slight change in healing, but overall Priests are still way ahead in terms of party survivability.


    TL;DR
    KTera Mystics are broken because of Talents, the same Talents we will never get. Therefore, Non-KTera Priests have nothing to worry about.
  • FaunBait wrote: »
    We SHOULD NOT compare our healers to KTera's.

    This is why Priests are complaining about Mystics:

    KTera DPS Mystic <----Click

    Although the upcoming healer patch does come with DPS skill changes for both Priests and Mystics, KTera Mystics simply have way more DPS from the Talent System. There is just a slight change in healing, but overall Priests are still way ahead in terms of party survivability.


    TL;DR
    KTera Mystics are broken because of Talents, the same Talents we will never get. Therefore, Non-KTera Priests have nothing to worry about.

    Saw this a few times here and there, talents dont enable DPS mystics. You will be able to do exactly what that mystic is doing in the video with the patch were getting which does not include talents.
  • FaunBaitFaunBait ✭✭✭
    MildLife wrote: »
    FaunBait wrote: »
    We SHOULD NOT compare our healers to KTera's.

    This is why Priests are complaining about Mystics:

    KTera DPS Mystic <----Click

    Although the upcoming healer patch does come with DPS skill changes for both Priests and Mystics, KTera Mystics simply have way more DPS from the Talent System. There is just a slight change in healing, but overall Priests are still way ahead in terms of party survivability.


    TL;DR
    KTera Mystics are broken because of Talents, the same Talents we will never get. Therefore, Non-KTera Priests have nothing to worry about.

    Saw this a few times here and there, talents dont enable DPS mystics. You will be able to do exactly what that mystic is doing in the video with the patch were getting which does not include talents.

    Yes, like I stated, with the upcoming patch, mystics will be able to dish out dps. But not nearly as much as KTera DPS mystics if they focused on their DPS talents.

    Mystic Talents(Click if you want to see the rest of the talents):

    Metamorphic smite
    talent dmg increased by x(lvl 1 : 32)
    upon successful hit, x(lvl 1 : 5)% chance to reset cooldown of metamorphic blast, as well as increasing damage of next metamorphic blast used by x(lvl 1 : 4)%.
    cast speed is increased by x(lvl 1 : 5)%.

    Metamorphic blast
    talent dmg increased by x(lvl 1 : 32)
    upon successful hit, x(lvl 1 : 7)% chance to reset cooldown of metamorhpic smite.
    upon successful hit, x(lvl 1 : 7)% chance to reduce movement speed of target by x(lvl 1 : 10)% for 5 seconds. If target is player, effect and duration is reduced to half.

    Cool Down Resets? Chaining Increased Damage? Cast Speed Increase?
    I don't know about you, but DPSing with these talents sounds like a lot of, well, DPS. DPS we will never get here on NA.

    Priest Talents are not nearly as DPS oriented and rightfully so.
  • PixelatorPixelator ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2016
    The Metamorphic Smite talent goes up to 25% chance to reset cd + 20% increased damage on Metamorphic blast.
    The Metamorphic Blast talent goes up to 25% chance to reset cd of Metamorphic Smite.

    They're both pretty sizable damage boosts considering that (from the video), these two skills are all they're using.
  • MildLifeMildLife ✭✭
    edited May 2016
    Honestly your reading too much into it, were getting the increase damage to boss monsters and the reset glyph for metamorphic blast and that alone is enough to make mystic dps viable.

    What you're implying at least from what I can tell is that we will not see ANY dps mystic at all which I can tell you right now is 100% false. I guarantee you on NA mystics will easily reach 700k/s at the very least. There is no reason not to run a dps mystic in a party with a priest because you get all the benefits you do of doing that now as well as about half the damage of a good gunner.
  • WHAT is the point of a priest being in the game only to actually be a buff bot
    That's what Mystics where thought of a long time ago, the mystic changes where getting in NA are buffs but there things that should have been implemented ages ago so the two healers where on equal ground, like throwing motes and two summons and thrall of life being invincible etc

    Ps who cares what happens in KTera, there like a test ground for blue hole and we get The filtered version of stuff (like new classes and dungeons buffs nerfs etc)
  • FaunBaitFaunBait ✭✭✭
    MildLife wrote: »
    What you're implying at least from what I can tell is that we will not see ANY dps mystic at all which I can tell you right now is 100% false.

    I have no idea where you got this from as all my posts say mystics deal decent damage for a healer with the upcoming patch. If you missed my points in the past, here it is:

    Non-Ktera mystics will always have less DPS than Ktera mystics..


    Pixelator wrote: »
    The Metamorphic Smite talent goes up to 25% chance to reset cd + 20% increased damage on Metamorphic blast.
    The Metamorphic Blast talent goes up to 25% chance to reset cd of Metamorphic Smite.

    They're both pretty sizable damage boosts considering that (from the video), these two skills are all they're using.
    This^^
  • MorningCoffeeMorningCoffee ✭✭
    edited May 2016
    Mystics don't burst heal.

    Except for Boomerang pulse, but good luck getting it to hit in a heated boss battle. More often than not, it's a waste of mana unless you're in a perfectly coordinated party.
  • MeningitisMeningitis ✭✭✭✭
    I'll tell you why it's worth playing priest over mystic in NA, regardless of opinions of "how much better" mystic may be over priest or blah blah blah: NA is full of idiots who refuse to pick up motes literally ever and need to be carried by a priest working their butt off. Unless you're in endgame, in which it is less common. But I still see it way to freakin' much.
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