Evasive Smash Berserker

Ultemecia · July 2016

tobtheking wrote: »

Nopi wrote: »

tobtheking wrote: »

Just for your Information

1. Pretty much never use TS -> ES cuz your dmg after 4 overcharge ticks is nothing compared to Cyclone -> ES
2. Only use ES when you need to iFrame/survive certain Attacks or Mechanics (You pretty much don't gain anything DPS-wise when you use it)

Asking for info, does ES grabs the damage from all Cyclone charges and mashes it up in a single attack? Or is it a little more complicated than that? Haven't tried my zerker in ages and cannot go in game right now to test due to work.

For each overcharge tick (Cyclone has 5 overcharge ticks) your ES damage increases. Not really complicated o:

Thing is Esmash takes the base skill damage + overcharge ticks and saves it up for esmash. The reason esmash is the biggest damage dealer is because of it's glyphs. A bare esmash doesn't do any more or less than the attack you canceled for it.

At this point some testing needs to be done because of the recent buffs to ts. TS may be a small bit better for esmash now over cyclone.

Nopi · July 2016

Ultemecia wrote: »

tobtheking wrote: »

Nopi wrote: »

tobtheking wrote: »

Just for your Information

1. Pretty much never use TS -> ES cuz your dmg after 4 overcharge ticks is nothing compared to Cyclone -> ES
2. Only use ES when you need to iFrame/survive certain Attacks or Mechanics (You pretty much don't gain anything DPS-wise when you use it)

Asking for info, does ES grabs the damage from all Cyclone charges and mashes it up in a single attack? Or is it a little more complicated than that? Haven't tried my zerker in ages and cannot go in game right now to test due to work.

For each overcharge tick (Cyclone has 5 overcharge ticks) your ES damage increases. Not really complicated o:

Thing is Esmash takes the base skill damage + overcharge ticks and saves it up for esmash. The reason esmash is the biggest damage dealer is because of it's glyphs. A bare esmash doesn't do any more or less than the attack you canceled for it.

At this point some testing needs to be done because of the recent buffs to ts. TS may be a small bit better for esmash now over cyclone.

I see. This is what I wanted to know.

Minineofita · July 2016

Is better to use ES while charging Cyclone than TS.

FelipeThomaz · July 2016

You can have a few problems with ES if you got a keyboard setup leaving every key on a line.
It's weird, but mine didn't work properly as well, i tried it at tab key, ts and cyclone at f and g... and movement at wasd. I changed to middle mouse button, and it works now.
Maybe you should change ES key. If you are having problems yet. ^^

Ketoth · July 2016

Do anyone know how ES base damage scale with overcharge ticks? I would apreciate if someone could post some results with every hp tick you put on ES. Also a auto attack with the same gear and mob would be awesome.

Thx in advance

Ultemecia · July 2016

Ketoth wrote: »

Do anyone know how ES base damage scale with overcharge ticks? I would apreciate if someone could post some results with every hp tick you put on ES. Also a auto attack with the same gear and mob would be awesome.

Thx in advance

@Ketoth I'm at work currently, but I've got a lot of freedom so I may be able to get you that info. How many times would you like it done for accurate results?

Ketoth · July 2016

Just make sure you dont have any glyph on and hit the same type of enemy in same position(hitting the front for example)

Is not necessary to hit multiplus time with the same numbers of overcharge, since the damage should be the same.

Would be great to see if the cyclone overcharge glylh increase ES damage, so would be necessaey to test with and without it

Btw do ES increase the damage based in enemy health, like TS?

Ultemecia · July 2016

Ketoth wrote: »

Btw do ES increase the damage based in enemy health, like TS?

On that I honestly don't know.

Nopi · July 2016

Can't provide the info but could provide a more or less safe way to test. get yourself moderately weak gear. Enough to be able to do more than a few hits to a scyteria fae Kumas to test. Those things stay sitting for a while. Enough to at least pull some numbers.

That, or be skilled and confident enough to be able to do the exact same thing from the exact same direction on IoD bams several times.

Ketoth · July 2016

Ok. I asked a guildy to do spme tests with me, here are some conclusions:

ES doesnt have bloodlust effect.

ES damage just depends the number of charges. But overcharge glyph for cyclone affect damage of ES when using cyclone as charge skill.

Base damage of ES looks like around 90% of cyclone damage, dont have actual numbers yet.

I am still trying to figure out the ES damage equation and the how overcharge glyph works.

Ultemecia · July 2016

@ketoth This is some really cool information. Once you've completed your findings Do you mind if I add it to my Zerk guide? With credits ofc.

Ketoth · July 2016

The cyclone overcharge glyph i dont think it gives the 12% bonus damage on overcharge, maybe is a different formula that i didnt find yet. Anyway here are some of the results:

Without glyphs cyclone bonus from overcharge are for every 1hp tick : 50%-26%-26%-26%-26%

While with glyph is : 53%-30%-30%-30%-30%

For ES:

Without glyph : 70%-30%-30%-30%-30%
With Glyph : 74%-38%-38%-38%-38%

If you consider TS, use the values from cyclone without glyph and removing the last one

I dont have the base damage yet.

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