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  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    aeee98 wrote: »
    *some dailies*

    I am laughing a little too hard here. What dailies? Doing nagas? (Note main daily quests used to be PvP free zones, TAR spot used to be a safe haven in GvGs)

    Also yes, outside dungeon zones there is a area that is marked as a safe zone.

    Also if you are legit trying for champion laurel you would already be experienced enough to not feed to the majority of the OWPvPers who are way weaker than the big guns out there.

    If only people realised that tera was originally supposed to be a game that focused quite a bit on the outlaw and pvp system.

    And yes I dont bother changing channels even in PvP servers aside from lumbertown because no one and I know no one will hit me. Unless Lake of Tears decided to be salty.

    The absolute truth is, you are only being forced to a "PvP server" in name. It will just end up like a nerfed version of MT with so many pve guilds out there with 0 experience in pvp as well.

    what we do is none of your busness

    and we are experienced who chosen a pve server to chill and no go mad and salt like in mount tyranna

    i dont care what tera was supposed to be, i only care what we sign when we choose the server to join and actually enmasse begin to break their promise

  • Butterfly44Butterfly44 ✭✭
    Fallsmyer wrote: »
    Butterfly44 wrote: »
    Fallsmyer wrote: »
    So I pose a question to those PvP players who are saying switch channels/stay in safe zones (the latter being moronic as far as actually doing anything in the open world). Why not make it a PvE server instead? You guys can request to duel, you can use battlegrounds for PvP and you can declare GvGs. Would you have a problem going from a PvP server to a PvE server?

    Because PVP is EASILY avoided, but how do I kill a bot that is taking ore from me?

    and PvP is easily initiated through duels/BG/GvG
    So again, would you be bothered if the PvP server you chose was changed to a PvE one?

    You didn't answer my question at all. How do you kill a bot that is taking ore from me? and yes I know bots exist. Or do you just sit back and allow the market to be flooded with bot farmed materials?

    You haven't answered mine either, you've only moved the goalposts. Your question is irrelevant to what I'm asking.

    Would you be bothered if the PvP server you chose was changed to a PvE one?
  • aeee98aeee98 ✭✭✭✭
    Inb4 EME decides to remove all server typings and make all of them the same as KR
  • YuxibrYuxibr ✭✭✭
    Blurberry wrote: »
    tal10 wrote: »
    #STOPOWPVP
    I hope to support at least part of the EME, who do not want to lose players. As you can see, there are people who play on HW and they do not want the conversion in OWPVP. Please not will ignore our voice. Thank you.

    There is like 8 of you.

    So? Could be only 1. Again, we choose a pve server and we want to stay in one.
  • FallsmyerFallsmyer ✭✭
    edited July 2016
    Butterfly44 wrote: »
    Fallsmyer wrote: »
    Butterfly44 wrote: »
    Fallsmyer wrote: »
    So I pose a question to those PvP players who are saying switch channels/stay in safe zones (the latter being moronic as far as actually doing anything in the open world). Why not make it a PvE server instead? You guys can request to duel, you can use battlegrounds for PvP and you can declare GvGs. Would you have a problem going from a PvP server to a PvE server?

    Because PVP is EASILY avoided, but how do I kill a bot that is taking ore from me?

    and PvP is easily initiated through duels/BG/GvG
    So again, would you be bothered if the PvP server you chose was changed to a PvE one?

    You didn't answer my question at all. How do you kill a bot that is taking ore from me? and yes I know bots exist. Or do you just sit back and allow the market to be flooded with bot farmed materials?

    You haven't answered mine either, you've only moved the goalposts. Your question is irrelevant to what I'm asking.

    Would you be bothered if the PvP server you chose was changed to a PvE one?

    My question is completely relevant to your question. If you can give me a legitimate answer to my question, then it will impact my answer. I am on a PVP server, but I am not a PVP player. I only PVP when I have to such as if a bot starts taking my minerals or tries to take my farming spot. I haven't had anyone attempt to PK me in years, even during the event.
  • counterpointcounterpoint mod
    edited July 2016
    Butterfly44 wrote: »
    Regardless of greater good, people still chose to be a on PvE server, they didn't choose to be on a PvP server.
    Yes, but according to a very massive thread that happened only a few weeks ago, they also don't want to be on a "dead" server, defined by the lack of a vibrant end-game community. So what are the choices? EME has already said that all of the PvE servers including HW are doing fine in terms of overall population, so doing a merge between HW and another PvE server isn't justified. But a merge of VoT/LoT/HW has the potential to be sustainable when combined with a unique PvP-65 composition.

    Again, I'm not opposed to giving people who really despise any OWPvP a chance to get off, but I am hopeful that -- if this happens -- more end-game players will choose to stay rather than leave, because it seems like the only way going forward to sustain a good community and not just come back to this very same situation next year.
  • ShineeeShineee ✭
    Do I really have to change servers just because of this server merge?

    Why would you (eme) merge pve and pvp servers? Like..what? Hello?

    zzzz

  • RidaRida ✭✭
    edited July 2016
    [quote="Fallsmyer;44942"]
    My question is completely relevant to your question. If you can give me a legitimate answer to my question, then it will impact my answer. I am on a PVP server, but I am not a PVP player. I only PVP when I have to such as if a bot starts taking my minerals or tries to take my farming spot. I haven't had anyone attempt to PK me in years, even during the event.
    [/quote]

    Then that goes to what I said before, what shows you that they're a bot? Maybe they were there actively searching with a felicity and then left to grab some water, then you show up and kill them because all you see is their pet moving around. That's something I don't want to experience and that's exactly why I joined a Pve server

    Edit: forums don't like mobile it seems
  • Butterfly44Butterfly44 ✭✭
    Fallsmyer wrote: »
    Butterfly44 wrote: »
    Fallsmyer wrote: »
    Butterfly44 wrote: »
    Fallsmyer wrote: »
    So I pose a question to those PvP players who are saying switch channels/stay in safe zones (the latter being moronic as far as actually doing anything in the open world). Why not make it a PvE server instead? You guys can request to duel, you can use battlegrounds for PvP and you can declare GvGs. Would you have a problem going from a PvP server to a PvE server?

    Because PVP is EASILY avoided, but how do I kill a bot that is taking ore from me?

    and PvP is easily initiated through duels/BG/GvG
    So again, would you be bothered if the PvP server you chose was changed to a PvE one?

    You didn't answer my question at all. How do you kill a bot that is taking ore from me? and yes I know bots exist. Or do you just sit back and allow the market to be flooded with bot farmed materials?

    You haven't answered mine either, you've only moved the goalposts. Your question is irrelevant to what I'm asking.

    Would you be bothered if the PvP server you chose was changed to a PvE one?

    My question is completely relevant to your question. If you can give me a legitimate answer to my question, then it will impact my answer. I am on a PVP server, but I am not a PVP player. I only PVP when I have to such as if a bot starts taking my minerals or tries to take my farming spot. I haven't had anyone attempt to PK me in years, even during the event.

    And I haven't ever seen a bot gathering. Anecdotal evidence is fun isn't it?

    Would you be bothered if the PvP server you chose was changed to a PvE one?

    So far, based on your response, I'm inclined to assume that you would be, in fact, bothered by your PvP server being switched to a PvE one.
  • IMDCIIMDCI ✭
    counterpoint wrote: »
    Butterfly44 wrote: »
    Regardless of greater good, people still chose to be a on PvE server, they didn't choose to be on a PvP server.
    Yes, but according to a very massive thread that happened only a few weeks ago, they also don't want to be on a "dead" server, defined by the lack of a vibrant end-game community. So what are the choices? EME has already said that all of the PvE servers including HW are doing fine in terms of overall population, so doing a merge between HW and another PvE server isn't justified. But a merge of VoT/LoT/HW has the potential to be sustainable when combined with a unique PvP-65 composition.

    Again, I'm not opposed to giving people who really despise any OWPvP a chance to get off, but I am hopeful that -- if this happens -- more end-game players will choose to stay rather than leave, because it seems like the only way going forward to sustain a good community and not just come back to this very same situation next year.

    If only people thought like you more often.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    counterpoint wrote: »
    Butterfly44 wrote: »
    Regardless of greater good, people still chose to be a on PvE server, they didn't choose to be on a PvP server.
    Yes, but according to a very massive thread that happened only a few weeks ago, they also don't want to be on a "dead" server, defined by the lack of a vibrant end-game community. So what are the choices? EME has already said that all of the PvE servers including HW are doing fine in terms of overall population, so doing a merge between HW and another PvE server isn't justified. But a merge of VoT/LoT/HW has the potential to be sustainable when combined with a unique PvP-65 composition.

    Again, I'm not opposed to giving people who really despise any OWPvP a chance to get off, but I am hopeful that -- if this happens -- more end-game players will choose to stay rather than leave, because it seems like the only way going forward to sustain a good community and not just come back to this very same situation next year.

    you cant control if your server is dead or no

    and when we joined tera we knew than that can be happen

    but enmasse can control the pvp and pve part

    and i dont remember they said than one day our server could turn to pvp or pve
  • PalochiPalochi ✭✭✭
    Shineee wrote: »
    Do I really have to change servers just because of this server merge?

    Why would you (eme) merge pve and pvp servers? Like..what? Hello?

    zzzz

    I think you guys from Highwatch didnt notice that this idea is only showing up because youve been complaining a lot that Highwatch is dead and no one plays..im used to this community complaining about everything tho so i guess you guys are just being normal
  • Butterfly44Butterfly44 ✭✭
    edited July 2016
    counterpoint wrote: »
    Butterfly44 wrote: »
    Regardless of greater good, people still chose to be a on PvE server, they didn't choose to be on a PvP server.
    Again, I'm not opposed to giving people who really despise any OWPvP a chance to get off, but I am hopeful that -- if this happens -- more end-game players will choose to stay rather than leave, because it seems like the only way going forward to sustain a good community and not just come back to this very same situation next year.

    For clarity's sake, I also don't doubt that the population would definitely be healthier. And I would agree with you on giving those who despise OWPvP an alternative to being forced into it. I'm more so just trying to show the other side of the coin for those who are already on a PvP server/have no problem with OWPvP why those who despise PvP are having a problem with it.
  • ShineeeShineee ✭
    Palochi wrote: »
    Shineee wrote: »
    Do I really have to change servers just because of this server merge?

    Why would you (eme) merge pve and pvp servers? Like..what? Hello?

    zzzz

    I think you guys from Highwatch didnt notice that this idea is only showing up because youve been complaining a lot that Highwatch is dead and no one plays..im used to this community complaining about everything tho so i guess you guys are just being normal

    But not everyone on HW goes to the forums.
  • counterpointcounterpoint mod
    edited July 2016
    vkobe wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    Butterfly44 wrote: »
    Regardless of greater good, people still chose to be a on PvE server, they didn't choose to be on a PvP server.
    Yes, but according to a very massive thread that happened only a few weeks ago, they also don't want to be on a "dead" server, defined by the lack of a vibrant end-game community. So what are the choices? EME has already said that all of the PvE servers including HW are doing fine in terms of overall population, so doing a merge between HW and another PvE server isn't justified. But a merge of VoT/LoT/HW has the potential to be sustainable when combined with a unique PvP-65 composition.

    Again, I'm not opposed to giving people who really despise any OWPvP a chance to get off, but I am hopeful that -- if this happens -- more end-game players will choose to stay rather than leave, because it seems like the only way going forward to sustain a good community and not just come back to this very same situation next year.

    you cant control if your server is dead or no

    and when we joined tera we knew than that can be happen

    but enmasse can control the pvp and pve part

    and i dont remember they said than one day our server could turn to pvp or pve

    You're making it only about this one issue -- that PvE players shouldn't be forced on a PvP server, even if it's PvP-65 -- because that principle is super-important to you, and I get it. But there's more at stake for at least part of the HW community than just whether some HW players may have to confront the potential for some minimal OWPvP from time to time.

    And, well, the whole point is to try to prop up the "dead" servers and give them a road to a sustainable future. I've tried to give the arguments that I think support that end-goal. But if the only point you care about is "PvE players shouldn't be forced on a PvP server", then fine -- I already said I'm okay with a way out. But that one thing alone doesn't negate everything else at stake here.
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