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Kreuziger · July 2016

KahzRB wrote: »

Why don't we consider a merger of 3 server into PVE server? Like most pvp player advice, you can avoid open pvp with a cost of daily precaution and some minor restriction. Then we might as well remove the pvp. The core issue: population and endgame contents, not pvp activity.

Same question ^

PaulisAwesome · July 2016

Dymatize wrote: »

NPU wrote: »

I'm going to try to clear one thing up for everyone...

[ ! ] >> If Enmasse plans to merge Highwatch, Valley of Titans and Lake of Tears.... Yes, it would be a PVP server, but PVP is restricted to 65 only (unless there was a duel). That means, no PKing, no Outlaw Declaration, no anything in that sort. Just a PVE server to LV 1-64, and 65 is OW PVP (Dis including safe zones). << [ ! ]

Please understand that.
... Not everyone in TERA is out to kill you every moment you leave the safe zone.

Could you please read the third paragraph of treeshark again and try to really understand it?
nvm, i'll just tell you that he did say that the solution they agreed at is "NOT" in stoned yet because the majority of the player council who agreed on it aren't even in those three servers(HW,LoT,VoT) so that's why we're here giving our own solutions to that problem.

He's going based off what treeshark told us ingame last night(at least on HW server)
He said if they make a new server it will be PvP65 regardless.

I think that led alot into the frustration aswell because then it was concreted to be forced upon HW players.

NPU · July 2016

Dymatize wrote: »

NPU wrote: »

I'm going to try to clear one thing up for everyone...

[ ! ] >> If Enmasse plans to merge Highwatch, Valley of Titans and Lake of Tears.... Yes, it would be a PVP server, but PVP is restricted to 65 only (unless there was a duel). That means, no PKing, no Outlaw Declaration, no anything in that sort. Just a PVE server to LV 1-64, and 65 is OW PVP (Dis including safe zones). << [ ! ]

Please understand that.
... Not everyone in TERA is out to kill you every moment you leave the safe zone.

Could you please read the third paragraph of treeshark again and try to really understand it?
nvm, i'll just tell you that he did say that the solution they agreed at is "NOT" in stoned yet because the majority of the player council who agreed on it aren't even in those three servers(HW,LoT,VoT) so that's why we're here giving our own solutions to that problem.

Could you please read the second line of my post? There is an "IF" there. :awesome:

KahzRB · July 2016

Not only that, Treeshark also mention free transfer is very hard to implement, the best they can give is a discount on the service fee.

vkobe · July 2016

Nesque wrote: »

Open world PvP? Do i have to teach you how to change channels?

Why do PvE players on MT (Highest population PvP server) never get ganked and on new server where PvP is allowed only on lvl 65 (!!!) Highwatch players are going to get murdered here and there?

we choose pve server, because we dont want to change channel

so if they turn mount tyranna into pve server do you will be happy with that ?

navjack27 · July 2016

KahzRB wrote: »

Not only that, Treeshark also mention free transfer is very hard to implement, the best they can give is a discount on the service fee.

because of that i'm not for the transfer. this shouldn't be on the player to sort out the backend database. if EME is merging, then EME moves my toons, EVERY BANK SLOT AND EVERY ITEM! otherwise i'm gone, i'm done, i quit and i regret the past year

vkobe · July 2016

Masioceto wrote: »

people are being so narrow minded about this topic. Highwatch PvE players say they don't want to be merged with a pvp server. But why?

Would you rather sit in the unpopulated mess that is your server currently is? For what reason? The chances of engaging in owpvp as a PVE player is rather ridiculous. If you're hunting world bosses, there's like, 15 channels to choose from. It would be literally the same as doing it on a pvp server. Most of them just afk in towns, anyways. What's the big deal?

I mean, I understand that some people don't even like the IDEA of it, but being a very vocal minority could be detrimental to the players who NEED a merge. Sometimes you need to take a step back and think "What is the best for this community as a whole, and not just myself." Because this game has been dying for quite some time now. And not having the ability to experience the game to its fullest again is why it's dying.

because we choose to pve, now if they turn mout tyranna into a pve server do you will stay happy like now ?

Saectum · July 2016

NPU wrote: »

I'm going to try to clear one thing up for everyone...

[ ! ] >> If Enmasse plans to merge Highwatch, Valley of Titans and Lake of Tears.... Yes, it would be a PVP server, but PVP would be restricted to LV 65 only (unless there was a duel). That means, no PKing, no Outlaw Declaration, no anything of that sort. Just a PVE server to LV 1-64, and 65 is OW PVP (Dis-including safe zones). << [ ! ]

Please understand that.
... Not everyone in TERA is out to kill you every moment you leave the safe zone.

It's not even about leveling. Right now almost noone levels up in open world. Most of us level up on dungeons or on *ugh* Kumas Royale.

It's about not giving us a choice. Making PvP even only at lvl65 is not meeting halfway. It's taking oportunity to PvP from PvP players and forcing PvE players to encounter something they decided to get away from when they started playing on PvE server. I'm one of this players and I'm simply stressed about even possibility of being killed/ganked/interrupted while I just want to peacfully finish my dailies. A lot of you keep saying "IoD is safezone". Yes it is and? IoD dailies are not the only dailies we have. Some of us (including me) still do gathering (Intrepid Heart, Rooted in Alchemy etc.) quests or TAR etc. Because they are faster, easier and I/we don't always have time to finish dailies by doing dungeons on all my characters and at the same time I want to finish them all, because of mwa boxes.
Some of you say that OWPvP is almost dead, nobody cares and it's not a big fuss. And that it's easy to run away, change channels or whatever. Still - I didn't sign up for all of this. I'm bad at PvP and I don't like it. This is why I appreciated that Tera has servers for PvE and PvP separately. Because I could decide what I want. And suddenly I'm facing this situation. Merge absolutely SHOULD happen, it will make gameplay and economy alive, more vibrant, that's for sure. But not on this conditions.

Just as you said: "Please understand that".

navjack27 · July 2016

@vkobe thats the weird thing. a pvp server could go pve with NO CHANGES in daily life really. killing another player does NOTHING of end game benefit. its just a "feature". but you give that "feature" to a pve server... thats issues

Dymatize · July 2016

NPU wrote: »

Dymatize wrote: »

NPU wrote: »

I'm going to try to clear one thing up for everyone...

[ ! ] >> If Enmasse plans to merge Highwatch, Valley of Titans and Lake of Tears.... Yes, it would be a PVP server, but PVP is restricted to 65 only (unless there was a duel). That means, no PKing, no Outlaw Declaration, no anything in that sort. Just a PVE server to LV 1-64, and 65 is OW PVP (Dis including safe zones). << [ ! ]

Please understand that.
... Not everyone in TERA is out to kill you every moment you leave the safe zone.

Could you please read the third paragraph of treeshark again and try to really understand it?
nvm, i'll just tell you that he did say that the solution they agreed at is "NOT" in stoned yet because the majority of the player council who agreed on it aren't even in those three servers(HW,LoT,VoT) so that's why we're here giving our own solutions to that problem.

Could you please read the second line of my post? There is an "IF" there. :awesome:

"If Enmasse plans to merge Highwatch, Valley of Titans and Lake of Tears....." and you ended it with "Yes, it would be a PVP server"
oh well, guess you didn't read what treeshark posted and went on here based on what he said on HW.

PaulisAwesome wrote: »

Dymatize wrote: »

NPU wrote: »

I'm going to try to clear one thing up for everyone...

[ ! ] >> If Enmasse plans to merge Highwatch, Valley of Titans and Lake of Tears.... Yes, it would be a PVP server, but PVP is restricted to 65 only (unless there was a duel). That means, no PKing, no Outlaw Declaration, no anything in that sort. Just a PVE server to LV 1-64, and 65 is OW PVP (Dis including safe zones). << [ ! ]

Please understand that.
... Not everyone in TERA is out to kill you every moment you leave the safe zone.

Could you please read the third paragraph of treeshark again and try to really understand it?
nvm, i'll just tell you that he did say that the solution they agreed at is "NOT" in stoned yet because the majority of the player council who agreed on it aren't even in those three servers(HW,LoT,VoT) so that's why we're here giving our own solutions to that problem.

He's going based off what treeshark told us ingame last night(at least on HW server)
He said if they make a new server it will be PvP65 regardless.

I think that led alot into the frustration aswell because then it was concreted to be forced upon HW players.

I see, I was probably offline then.

navjack27 · July 2016

yeah i recorded the whole discussion

vkobe · July 2016

NPU wrote: »

I'm going to try to clear one thing up for everyone...

[ ! ] >> If Enmasse plans to merge Highwatch, Valley of Titans and Lake of Tears.... Yes, it would be a PVP server, but PVP would be restricted to LV 65 only (unless there was a duel). That means, no PKing, no Outlaw Declaration, no anything of that sort. Just a PVE server to LV 1-64, and 65 is OW PVP (Dis-including safe zones). << [ ! ]

Please understand that.
... Not everyone in TERA is out to kill you every moment you leave the safe zone.

we understand that, but you need to understand than if we choose pve it is because we dont want your pvp, now if they turn your server into pve do you will be so happy ?

Xandervb · July 2016

I'm also afraid giving new server "hybrid" label will cut off the supply of incoming players. Ppl who want to play PvE choose PVE server, Ppl who want pvp choose PvP server. Who would choose hybrid? Probably not enough to keep server alive.

Tzilah · July 2016

No way! I have chars on Highwatch and Valley of Titans. If I chose a PVP realm, that's for a good reason: Namely PvP from low level, world PvP. You have to learn your class as you evolve. What's the point in PvP only at 65?

Besides, if other have chosen to go on a PvE realm, it is because they prefer PvE. What's the idea of putting them together with a PvP realm?

If you have to merge servers, why not just merge PvP with PvP and PvE with PvE... Seems more logical, not? Rift can do it, Blizzard can do it, I bet you'll be able to do it too?

This kind of hybrid isn't any good, it's neither one or another.

I guess that if you really wanted to merge those, there is only one way:

- People can flag themselves PvE or PvP while questing.
- When you are flagged PvE, you cannot be attacked by any PvP-flagged player. And that goes from low level.
- When you are flagged PvP, you can only attack people flagged PvP. And that goes from low level.

This way, people used to PvE and who don't want PvP, whether they are lvl 20 or 65 can just go on with PvE without being bothered.
People who appreciate PvP can just flag themselves.

That still wouldn't be optimum, but it could work.

Regards,

Tzil

Deathologist · July 2016

Yey, My thread started this and I told people don't jump to conclusion, EME listens. I am gonna point something, someone might pointed before.

I have 10 chars in HW, 4 on other 2 servers, I can delete 2 of them, then me as founder got 8 usual char limit, what will happen to stuff I piled up? I have to keep one char to have my bank and stuff, what happens now? I am freaking lol. Also what about guilds and guild banks? I have a guild and lots of stuff in banks, they remained untouched? also what about my chars, if I can have my banks and stuff in them, I don't really need those chars on those 2 servers just those stuff lol. we need to deal with crazy people like me with multiple chars on each servers

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