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  • edited July 2016
    @Scythera wrote (not sure why my automatic quote isn't working tho), and I agree 100% as this being the fair way of doing this, reposting to avoid being buried and overlooked by the council:


    The only completely fair and practical solutions seem to be the same

    1. Offer HW players a free transfer to another PVE server (AV/CH, since they have lower population/activity compared to TR) this gives those servers a small boost and allows the hardcore anti-pvp players to play the game as they intended. However this will come with the issue of names, in which they'd be under the same rule of a regular server transfer, name taken = change upon arrival. It's not perfect but in the end it's either sacrifice your name or your gameplay style, at least gives them a choice.

    (THEN MERGE, AND...)

    2. Offer free transfer for a limited time (1-2 weeks?) upon opening of the new server to all players and mark it as the 'recommended' server for new players. Hopefully this will counter the negative effect of HW players transferring to PVE by replacing the population with others who wish to either 'go home' or have a fresh start. (+ some additional opening events to draw players in)

    (...)

    To those saying PVP is easily avoidable, maybe so, but exclusively PVE players shouldn't even have to worry about it, it's also not a 100% guarantee without some sort of toggle/buff which isn't fair. Imagine if MT were being switched to PVE, it's not their play style or what they signed up for which would be unfair without some alternative.
  • TzilahTzilah ✭✭
    Trigg wrote: »
    When Highwatch was made, we had the chance of a free server transfer to it. Does that mean that we would get the same chance of server transfer again? (I also went to HW in the first place because of PVE)

    Very good idea, because I don't want my PvP chars to be on a PvE realm.

    Regards,

    Tzil
  • I've rolled one PvE servers simply because I do not care for the OWPvP concept.
    It's why I played on AV then moved to HW when it opened.

    There's got to be a better way todo it then forcing us into a PvP server(even if only at level 65, To me that doesn't matter)

    Hey there. well, I hate PVP too, and even at 65 it bugs me. I prefer my solution.

    PVP is for everyone who wants PVP from the start, how? We give the pvp player a new sign or something when they received their outlaw skill, and any other players which never received that skill can not be pvped.

    This can be a great plan, those pvp players can have their pvp from the start and do what they wanna do just like other pvp server, and pve players can do what they were doing before without any trouble just like before.

    PS: I hope with the poor English I have you get the point :chuffed:
  • TzilahTzilah ✭✭
    I don't know why people are worried about PvP, it makes literally no difference for the regular PvE Player. In all the time i've been on MT, I haven't been attacked once.

    Have you tried with PvP flag on?

    If not, try it.
  • AikenXPAikenXP
    edited July 2016
    Btw, it's really funny for me, when I'm reading comments like "Dw, OWPvP is almost dead", "You won't be killed unless you will give someone a reason" or "Come on, TreeShark was afking for hours and wasn't killed".

    If it's true, let's change ALL servers to PvP! Or all to PvE! If OWPvP doesn't have impact, it shouldn't be any problems, but ask ppl from TR if they like idea of changing TR into PvP server, I bet not all of them will be happy, the same goes with MT, ppl won't be happy about changing this server to PvE.

    Now it's the same thing, we just don't want to be on PvP server, that's why we chose PvE server.

    And tbh, I don't think that OWPvP won't have impact on new server, ther will be a lot of TROLLS just going around and killing ppl from HW for fun, cause we are not used to OWPvP.
  • a little offtopic, but very important, the 10.000 EMP question is:

    Which server is going to become the next Highwatch first?
    1. CH
    2. AV

    only EME knows the loads of the servers, but the population of this game its not growing (just the opposite), we need 4 servers 2 PVP and 2 PVE:
    1. MT PVP
    2. TR PVE
    3. "Hybrid" 65PVP (LoT - VoT)
    4. PVE "RP" (ch - av -hw)

  • Meh, I just want to say, I didn't join a PVE server just so it could magically become a PVP server at the end of the day, be it lvl 65 or not, no, I do not want it. I like to roam around the open world and AFK anytime I want, without having the hassle of changing channel or TP to safe zone in order to avoid something which wasn't there originally when I first joined the server.

    And one more thing, I like to stay in Channel 1 because I like to see people running around the places. That's the point of MMORPG isn't it? What's the point of changing channel and be alone in the channel? If I want to do that, I might as well play FF7 again.

    P.S.: I do like the idea of merging, but if it's going to merge into a PVP server (I don't care if it's only exclusive to lvl 65), I do not want that. If I want to experience PVP, I would have join a PVP server in the first place.

    I know it's not really a big deal, but I just don't like how I am being forced to change the way I play when clearly, I chose this particular server because I wanted to play it this way and not that way.
  • KahzRBKahzRB ✭✭
    HW/LoT/Vot are the sinking boats, TERA is the sinking ship.
  • TzilahTzilah ✭✭
    Ruminess wrote: »
    I don't understand what's up with so much complaining from Highwatch players. "I dont want to get pked while doing vanguard dailies." It's called IOD,and it's a SAFE ZONE. "I don't want to get pked while lvling a character." Oh,let me teach you the way of "changing channels". Like no offense,but having open world pvp it's not as bad as it seems. You guys rather stick on your low populated pve server than accept a merge that brings so many benefits? :I

    That's plain stupid. If people chose a PvE realm, it is for a good reason. Why should they have to change channels (like the player pk'ing being too dumb to find out of how to change channel too?) to be able to quest in peace.

    And personally, I don't see why I should wait to 65 to be able to PvP. What's the point on being on a PvP-server if you can't PvP before max-level?

    Regards,

    Tzil

  • vkobe wrote: »
    NPU wrote: »
    I'm going to try to clear one thing up for everyone...

    [ ! ] >> If Enmasse plans to merge Highwatch, Valley of Titans and Lake of Tears.... Yes, it would be a PVP server, but PVP would be restricted to LV 65 only (unless there was a duel). That means, no PKing, no Outlaw Declaration, no anything of that sort. Just a PVE server to LV 1-64, and 65 is OW PVP (Dis-including safe zones). << [ ! ]

    Please understand that.
    ... Not everyone in TERA is out to kill you every moment you leave the safe zone.

    we understand that, but you need to understand than if we choose pve it is because we dont want your pvp, now if they turn your server into pve do you will be so happy ?

    Who's forcing you to PvP?
    As i said before: You can PvE on PvP server, but can't PvP on PvE server. (Duel doesn't count since it's just 1v1)
  • AikenXP wrote: »
    Btw, it's really funny for me, when I'm reading comments like "Dw, OWPvP is almost dead", "You won't be killed unless you will give someone a reason" or "Come on, TreeShark was afking for hours and wasn't killed".

    If it's true, let's change ALL servers to PvP! Or all to PvE! If OWPvP doesn't have impact, it shouldn't be any problems, but ask ppl from TR if they like idea of changing TR into PvP server, I bet not all of them will be happy, the same goes with MT, ppl won't be happy about changing this server to PvE.

    Now it's the same thing, we just don't want to be on PvP server, that's why we chose PvE server.

    Totally. Just what I had wanted to say.
  • Are you going to offer free server transfers for those on HW that don't want to pvp. It seems unfair to those 65's that are only in pve gear to have to fight fully geared pvp players. In your own words "Population wise, Highwatch is in a pretty good place, however when listening to player feedback and looking deeper at the end-game, it looks like it could also use a boost." I see this as meaning it needs more content not pvp, but that is the issue with all the servers. Fix the current pvp system on pve servers and quit taking out instances. We need more instead of the same few over and over. Also just put new items in all the faction stores to get people to do those dailies again and remove out dated gear,
    '
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nesque wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    NPU wrote: »
    I'm going to try to clear one thing up for everyone...

    [ ! ] >> If Enmasse plans to merge Highwatch, Valley of Titans and Lake of Tears.... Yes, it would be a PVP server, but PVP would be restricted to LV 65 only (unless there was a duel). That means, no PKing, no Outlaw Declaration, no anything of that sort. Just a PVE server to LV 1-64, and 65 is OW PVP (Dis-including safe zones). << [ ! ]

    Please understand that.
    ... Not everyone in TERA is out to kill you every moment you leave the safe zone.

    we understand that, but you need to understand than if we choose pve it is because we dont want your pvp, now if they turn your server into pve do you will be so happy ?

    Who's forcing you to PvP?
    As i said before: You can PvE on PvP server, but can't PvP on PvE server. (Duel doesn't count since it's just 1v1)

    the guys who want to kill me because i am afk to dancing with my cute elin in open area

    and you dont understand you say it is not so bad to force highwatch players to change channel, because their server is pvp

    so do you will share the same opinion if one day enmasse turn mount tyranna into pve server ?

    you can pvp in pve server, gvg or invitation to pvp
  • vkobe wrote: »
    Nesque wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    NPU wrote: »
    I'm going to try to clear one thing up for everyone...

    [ ! ] >> If Enmasse plans to merge Highwatch, Valley of Titans and Lake of Tears.... Yes, it would be a PVP server, but PVP would be restricted to LV 65 only (unless there was a duel). That means, no PKing, no Outlaw Declaration, no anything of that sort. Just a PVE server to LV 1-64, and 65 is OW PVP (Dis-including safe zones). << [ ! ]

    Please understand that.
    ... Not everyone in TERA is out to kill you every moment you leave the safe zone.

    we understand that, but you need to understand than if we choose pve it is because we dont want your pvp, now if they turn your server into pve do you will be so happy ?

    Who's forcing you to PvP?
    As i said before: You can PvE on PvP server, but can't PvP on PvE server. (Duel doesn't count since it's just 1v1)

    the guys who want to kill me because i am afk to dancing with my cute elin in open area

    and you dont understand you say it is not so bad to force highwatch players to change channel, because their server is pvp

    so do you will share the same opinion if one day enmasse turn mount tyranna into pve server ?

    you can pvp in pve server, gvg or invitation to pvp

    No, you can't PvP on PvE server. GvG or Duel? You can just surrender in GvG and decline duel.
  • StrawberrypantsStrawberrypants ✭✭✭
    edited July 2016
    Tell that to the massive angry thread from a few weeks back. The raw population numbers are okay, but end-game community was felt to be too small, and the general sense was that anyone skilled is leaving for MT and TR.

    Will adding LoT and VoT to HW's population fix HWs endgame issues though? If there's not enough endgame players on both LoT and VoT to do stuff as it is, then it's not like magically with a merge people will be clamoring all day long for the hardest dungeons suddenly. If there's 20 people on each who have cleared SSHM, 10 willing to do DSU, that'll contribute only a little to fixing HW's endgame issues.
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