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  • STORM33STORM33 ✭✭
    I chose Highwatch because it was strictly PVE. If I wanted to play PVP, I would have chosen a server for that. Furthermore, I don't like the idea of being forced into it because someone thought it was a brilliant idea. Why not simply merge all PVE servers into one, and merge all PVP servers into one. That way everybody is happy and no one is forced into something they didn't choose from the beginning. Now I heard that pvp on HW would only be for level 65. That will resolve nothing for me, as all my characters are level 65. So that idea completely stinks unless you add a button to each character that allows you to either join or leave pvp mode. Actually, adding a pvp options button is a brilliant idea. Wonder if anyone is actually talented enough to incorporate that one.
  • NutpiesNutpies ✭✭
    I like this idea. 50/50
  • LanifairLanifair ✭✭
    edited July 2016
    a pvp button, or even pvp just at 65, scams the people who picked a pvp server though. I'm not gonna cast judgement on the people who pick pvp servers, but they signed up for those things. to take that away from them just to consolidate HW would be a shame.

    Merge HW with a pve community, come on...
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    Palochi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »

    what if tomorow mount tyranna turn to pve server

    8 times so far
    The Glorious Argument!
    What he said literally has nothing to do with that lol
    He isnt even talking about Highwatch in any part, he is just saying how the OW PvP is and he didnt say anything wrong.

    And the guy who said " you didnt stay long enough to make enemies "..thats basically the idea, ppl who PK or get killed by them usually have/gave reasons for this to happen.

    but his message is for highwatch people

    like i said we dont care what happen in pvp server it is only between you, but we cant ignore when enmasse force us to turn pvp server
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pages wrote: »

    It's exhausting to hear HW complain and ask them to make it a PVE server, you're asking them to take away a feature instead of give a feature. Keyword--feature. No one is making you use it, you won't be PKed if you don't put yourself in a situation where you can be PKed because in this server idea it's 65 only anyway. If they let HW players transfer to AV, the merge will fail. The whole idea is undermined and we are left with a superserver that is equally as dead as it was before.

    It's exhausting to hear pvp player complain than we dont want their model and than we dont want join them, again what will be your opinion if the new server is pve only or if enmasse change mount tyranna into pve server

    and anyway if what do you say is true why no merge vot and lot with mount tyranna it will be better to merge both server there than with highwatch
  • NesqueNesque ✭
    edited July 2016
    vkobe wrote: »
    Pages wrote: »

    It's exhausting to hear HW complain and ask them to make it a PVE server, you're asking them to take away a feature instead of give a feature. Keyword--feature. No one is making you use it, you won't be PKed if you don't put yourself in a situation where you can be PKed because in this server idea it's 65 only anyway. If they let HW players transfer to AV, the merge will fail. The whole idea is undermined and we are left with a superserver that is equally as dead as it was before.

    It's exhausting to hear pvp player complain than we dont want their model and than we dont want join them, again what will be your opinion if the new server is pve only or if enmasse change mount tyranna into pve server

    and anyway if what do you say is true why no merge vot and lot with mount tyranna it will be better to merge both server there than with highwatch

    True, merge VoT and LoT with MT is the best solution imo.


    And then turn MT into PvE server :^)
  • PixelatorPixelator ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2016
    Allowing free server transfers off those servers is like a pseudo server-merge without having to deal with the name conundrum on other servers. Example: Highwatch pve refugees will flock to AV/CH/TR, and will implicitly accept that they lose their names. In conjunction with this, En Masse could have another game-wide name wipe (of inactive players) so the newly arrived HW players could at least snag a new "high-valued" name. (and this time, do it right, e.g. forbidding character creation using a recently wiped name)
  • SeralinaSeralina ✭✭
    IMO you should merge LoT and VoT together, and then maybe merge HW with the lowest population PvE server. If that's not possible, then let PvE players transfer to a PvE server.
  • PagesPages ✭✭✭✭
    vkobe wrote: »
    Pages wrote: »

    It's exhausting to hear HW complain and ask them to make it a PVE server, you're asking them to take away a feature instead of give a feature. Keyword--feature. No one is making you use it, you won't be PKed if you don't put yourself in a situation where you can be PKed because in this server idea it's 65 only anyway. If they let HW players transfer to AV, the merge will fail. The whole idea is undermined and we are left with a superserver that is equally as dead as it was before.

    It's exhausting to hear pvp player complain than we dont want their model and than we dont want join them, again what will be your opinion if the new server is pve only or if enmasse change mount tyranna into pve server

    and anyway if what do you say is true why no merge vot and lot with mount tyranna it will be better to merge both server there than with highwatch

    You've used the same argument 9 times and I answered it in my post if you had actually bothered to read it.

    Why would they merge us with MT? MT, one of the most populated servers. Why would they give MT the name problems that they are going to give LoT/VoT/Potentially HW? Why are you asking them to inconvenience more people just because you can't grasp the concept that you would not be forced to PVP on a PVP server?

    So hardheaded and you won't acknowledge that this new PVP server is losing PVP aspects. Only being able to PVP at 65 means we lose lowbie PVP which is something people enjoy.

    I guess it's all about you though :)
  • AuranuAuranu ✭✭
    edited July 2016
    I think that highwatch players shouldn't have to to put into any kind of pvp situation, its just not what they signed up for. That being said as others have pointed out highwatch's population is probably crucial for this merge to be a success, so I don't think there is going to be a happy medium with this. That being said I think that highwatch's players should have an option to stay on a pve only server, and to all the people saying they should deal with it... just imagine if the shoe was on the other foot how mad you would be if you were FORCED into a pve only server when its not what you signed up for. I'd imagine there would be a thread just as long as this one with pvp players complaining about it.
  • PalochiPalochi ✭✭✭
    Pages wrote: »

    You've used the same argument 9 times and I answered it in my post if you had actually bothered to read it.
    Shhh
    Its the Great Argument
    Once used you cant say anything back because this glorious argument prooves he is right -for some reason-
    Thats why it was used 9 times!
    Make it 10! im joking around with this lol dont stop it

  • NPUNPU ✭✭
    edited July 2016
    Pages wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    Pages wrote: »

    It's exhausting to hear HW complain and ask them to make it a PVE server, you're asking them to take away a feature instead of give a feature. Keyword--feature. No one is making you use it, you won't be PKed if you don't put yourself in a situation where you can be PKed because in this server idea it's 65 only anyway. If they let HW players transfer to AV, the merge will fail. The whole idea is undermined and we are left with a superserver that is equally as dead as it was before.

    It's exhausting to hear pvp player complain than we dont want their model and than we dont want join them, again what will be your opinion if the new server is pve only or if enmasse change mount tyranna into pve server

    and anyway if what do you say is true why no merge vot and lot with mount tyranna it will be better to merge both server there than with highwatch

    You've used the same argument 9 times and I answered it in my post if you had actually bothered to read it.

    Why would they merge us with MT? MT, one of the most populated servers. Why would they give MT the name problems that they are going to give LoT/VoT/Potentially HW? Why are you asking them to inconvenience more people just because you can't grasp the concept that you would not be forced to PVP on a PVP server?

    So hardheaded and you won't acknowledge that this new PVP server is losing PVP aspects. Only being able to PVP at 65 means we lose lowbie PVP which is something people enjoy.

    I guess it's all about you though :)

    This person deserves a metal. :smile:
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pages wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    Pages wrote: »

    It's exhausting to hear HW complain and ask them to make it a PVE server, you're asking them to take away a feature instead of give a feature. Keyword--feature. No one is making you use it, you won't be PKed if you don't put yourself in a situation where you can be PKed because in this server idea it's 65 only anyway. If they let HW players transfer to AV, the merge will fail. The whole idea is undermined and we are left with a superserver that is equally as dead as it was before.

    It's exhausting to hear pvp player complain than we dont want their model and than we dont want join them, again what will be your opinion if the new server is pve only or if enmasse change mount tyranna into pve server

    and anyway if what do you say is true why no merge vot and lot with mount tyranna it will be better to merge both server there than with highwatch

    You've used the same argument 9 times and I answered it in my post if you had actually bothered to read it.

    Why would they merge us with MT? MT, one of the most populated servers. Why would they give MT the name problems that they are going to give LoT/VoT/Potentially HW? Why are you asking them to inconvenience more people just because you can't grasp the concept that you would not be forced to PVP on a PVP server?

    So hardheaded and you won't acknowledge that this new PVP server is losing PVP aspects. Only being able to PVP at 65 means we lose lowbie PVP which is something people enjoy.

    I guess it's all about you though :)

    because we dont want you it is why we ask to leave you if enmasse force us to live with you, so why you want us and not mount tyranna, they are like you, we are different with you, it is why we ask free transfert if our home will become your home, so understand we dont want to live with you
  • NPUNPU ✭✭
    Please take acknowledge of the fact that PVP will be limited to level 65 players only, and that there isn't many players who stand outside exits to kill 65 players, especially even just having idoneal gear wont kill you. You have flying mounts, you have teleportation scrolls, even if you went to kill world bams, it's VERY unlikey to get killed by another 65 player in that area, since it's pretty much deserted.
  • RidaRida ✭✭
    Pages wrote: »
    The thing is, those two servers combined still only questionably have the same population as HW currently.
    ...
    Understand that this new server, if it only has LoT and VoT, will have LESS people than HW has.
    ...
    We literally NEED Highwatch in this merge.
    If this is the case, why isn't it a normal PvE server as there's more players already in Highwatch? If they really wanted PvP there's still, as others have said, Duels, deathmatches, and battlegrounds.
    Pages wrote: »
    The thing is, most OWPVP happens in Crescentia and Velika Outskirts. If you are a PVE Player I doubt you will be in either of these places anyway, and it's very easy to just avoid them.
    Time and time again, we joined a PvE server to not have to worry about such things. PK's and random Ganks while going out gathering are all things that WILL come in a PvP server
    Pages wrote: »
    you won't be PKed if you don't put yourself in a situation where you can be PKed
    And all of a sudden it's my fault if I do get Pk'd out in the wild, nice. Kinda wish I was on a PvE server..Oh wait
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