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  • vkobe wrote: »
    QNTM wrote: »

    Letting HW people transfer out of the new server destroys the purpose of the merge. People crying about OWPVP in this thread don't realize how little impact it'll have.

    sorry man, but many people didnt know than highwatch will turn to pvp when they joined the server, so now enmasse come and say to them they can die in [filtered], their server will turn to pvp without their consent

    i could understand if they merge highwatch with a pve server

    so by respect to those players enmasse should give them free transfert

    and if lot and vot are unable to have a good pvp server together, then they deserve to dissapear

    Pvp itself doesnt change a thing the only difference between a pvp an a pve sv is that in a pvp server at lvl 10 you receive a skill that let you pvp open world but doesnt work nears dungeons entrances and iod even camps are safe. and also u can chance ch. So you can do your quests without expecting someone around pking. ............
    And of top of that nowadays no one do open world pvp its only outside low lvl towns such as lumbertown even cresentia everything else is pretty much dead
  • Is it a done-deal? The server Highwatch is going to go away and the characters will all be merged to the new PVP server?
  • YuhataYuhata ✭✭✭
    @AikenXP I totally get that and respect your desicion. I don't want or think anybody should be forced to do anything, ever. My feelings on this matter are not coming from a hate for PvE or its players at all. I just simply believe that the l65 pvp server is the best compromise for this. I do understand where you guys are coming from.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    HiimAnix wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    QNTM wrote: »

    Letting HW people transfer out of the new server destroys the purpose of the merge. People crying about OWPVP in this thread don't realize how little impact it'll have.

    sorry man, but many people didnt know than highwatch will turn to pvp when they joined the server, so now enmasse come and say to them they can die in [filtered], their server will turn to pvp without their consent

    i could understand if they merge highwatch with a pve server

    so by respect to those players enmasse should give them free transfert

    and if lot and vot are unable to have a good pvp server together, then they deserve to dissapear

    Pvp itself doesnt change a thing the only difference between a pvp an a pve sv is that in a pvp server at lvl 10 you receive a skill that let you pvp open world but doesnt work nears dungeons entrances and iod even camps are safe. and also u can chance ch. So you can do your quests without expecting someone around pking. ............
    And of top of that nowadays no one do open world pvp its only outside low lvl towns such as lumbertown even cresentia everything else is pretty much dead

    sincerely i dont care, i just want to be afk in open area or loliotaku just want to gathering in peace with his 10 felicities, it is what we sign when we join pve server
  • BaldurdashBaldurdash ✭✭✭
    vkobe wrote: »
    HiimAnix wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    QNTM wrote: »

    Letting HW people transfer out of the new server destroys the purpose of the merge. People crying about OWPVP in this thread don't realize how little impact it'll have.

    sorry man, but many people didnt know than highwatch will turn to pvp when they joined the server, so now enmasse come and say to them they can die in [filtered], their server will turn to pvp without their consent

    i could understand if they merge highwatch with a pve server

    so by respect to those players enmasse should give them free transfert

    and if lot and vot are unable to have a good pvp server together, then they deserve to dissapear

    Pvp itself doesnt change a thing the only difference between a pvp an a pve sv is that in a pvp server at lvl 10 you receive a skill that let you pvp open world but doesnt work nears dungeons entrances and iod even camps are safe. and also u can chance ch. So you can do your quests without expecting someone around pking. ............
    And of top of that nowadays no one do open world pvp its only outside low lvl towns such as lumbertown even cresentia everything else is pretty much dead

    sincerely i dont care, i just want to be afk in open area or loliotaku just want to gathering in peace with his 10 felicities, it is what we sign when we join pve server

    Nothing will change. People will just gather with alts under level 65.
  • KahzRBKahzRB ✭✭
    edited July 2016
    Right now the future of the merger is at greater stake, I believe matters like bank slot, character slot or name is not as important. The merger is for a long run, that's why we need to make sure the outcome is for the good of the community or TERA NA.

    Like some said, they try to make it a unique server, a hybrid server as the sell point.
    Unfortunately, some players, who initially started TERA because of pure PVE element will force to be the test subject in this new hybrid server. No matter how you describe a PVP server, it'll always come with a restriction of safe zone and kill zone, you are force to willing participate in owpvp.

    Also, I read some players telling owpvp is dead and 3 years without getting pk, which make me question, why PVP severs even exist atm or why they join a PVP server. If no one actively participate owpvp, there is no point of creating another server with owpvp element. Just a question.

    Anyway, the Hybrid server might work, but you need consider the player who initially choose TERA because of PVE experience and game play. New game or bigger title being release from time to time, unique idea such as hybrid server is actually crucial to outshine the competition in this saturated market.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2016
    Madoif wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    HiimAnix wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    QNTM wrote: »

    Letting HW people transfer out of the new server destroys the purpose of the merge. People crying about OWPVP in this thread don't realize how little impact it'll have.

    sorry man, but many people didnt know than highwatch will turn to pvp when they joined the server, so now enmasse come and say to them they can die in [filtered], their server will turn to pvp without their consent

    i could understand if they merge highwatch with a pve server

    so by respect to those players enmasse should give them free transfert

    and if lot and vot are unable to have a good pvp server together, then they deserve to dissapear

    Pvp itself doesnt change a thing the only difference between a pvp an a pve sv is that in a pvp server at lvl 10 you receive a skill that let you pvp open world but doesnt work nears dungeons entrances and iod even camps are safe. and also u can chance ch. So you can do your quests without expecting someone around pking. ............
    And of top of that nowadays no one do open world pvp its only outside low lvl towns such as lumbertown even cresentia everything else is pretty much dead

    sincerely i dont care, i just want to be afk in open area or loliotaku just want to gathering in peace with his 10 felicities, it is what we sign when we join pve server

    Nothing will change. People will just gather with alts under level 65.

    loli do it with level 65 reapers and you need to be 65 to get the maximun gathering level :)
  • CallaCalla ✭✭✭
    Madoif wrote: »
    AikenXP wrote: »
    @Yuhata I'm not BIG PVE PLAYER and I'm not afking in SZ. When I'm going to dung, I am not teleporting, cause I want to travel and see areas. Is it so hard to understand that I chose PvE server to lower chaces of being PK while I'm doing it to 0 and that's why I don't want it to be higher?

    My eyeballs are hurting as well when I see all over again the same comment "Don't cry OWPvP is not a big deal". Well, for me is, that's why I chose PvE server.

    So go explore on an alt that is not level 65. Oh and quit lying through your teeth. Any sane party would kick you if you take the long way to reach dungeons without teleport scrolls.

    Actually I've been in parties where we've waited for someone who didn't have a tp scroll, even through instance matching. Not everyone is an impatient [filtered]. As long as they're vocal that they're on their way and will be just a minute I've never had a party kick someone who was coming, even if they had to run there. And why should players be forced to hide out in towns when they want to go out and explore, or if they wanted to participate in openworld events like the one we have going on now? It's totally unfair to those of us who should be able to fully enjoy the game in a laid back environment like the one we originally chose.

    You're fine with pvp? Great! Awesome! More power to you. Not all of us like it, some of us are easily frustrated by it and that's why we CHOSE to play on a PVE server. We made that decision because it is what we are comfortable with. This attitude that many have of "Oh I like it so you need to suck it up too" is honestly disgusting. Many of us aren't saying "No don't make a server merge" because a lot of us can all agree that it would be a great thing to boost the servers that aren't doing well.

    What we're asking for is some sort of alternative for players who don't WANT to be in a pvp server. Why is it so hard for people to fathom that we just want compromise?
  • Stricera wrote: »
    So what will happen to all my characters :/

    You will, unfortunately, have to delete 32 characters.

    I don't think I can do that :c
  • Eiiji wrote: »
    Stricera wrote: »
    So what will happen to all my characters :/qi1zR.jpg

    that looks kinda fake showing TR medium populated and all others high populated lol

    about the chars, TreeShark visited HW last night and we talked about merge, he said if you have many chars in those 3 servers, you have all of your chars back, however you won't be able to create new chars till you have less than 16 chars, it means you will have to delete many of your chars to make a new char.

    I just did this like an hour ago :u Couldnt you have gone and checked yourself :/
  • BaldurdashBaldurdash ✭✭✭
    Calla wrote: »
    Madoif wrote: »
    AikenXP wrote: »
    @Yuhata I'm not BIG PVE PLAYER and I'm not afking in SZ. When I'm going to dung, I am not teleporting, cause I want to travel and see areas. Is it so hard to understand that I chose PvE server to lower chaces of being PK while I'm doing it to 0 and that's why I don't want it to be higher?

    My eyeballs are hurting as well when I see all over again the same comment "Don't cry OWPvP is not a big deal". Well, for me is, that's why I chose PvE server.

    So go explore on an alt that is not level 65. Oh and quit lying through your teeth. Any sane party would kick you if you take the long way to reach dungeons without teleport scrolls.

    Actually I've been in parties where we've waited for someone who didn't have a tp scroll, even through instance matching. Not everyone is an impatient [filtered]. As long as they're vocal that they're on their way and will be just a minute I've never had a party kick someone who was coming, even if they had to run there. And why should players be forced to hide out in towns when they want to go out and explore, or if they wanted to participate in openworld events like the one we have going on now? It's totally unfair to those of us who should be able to fully enjoy the game in a laid back environment like the one we originally chose.

    You're fine with pvp? Great! Awesome! More power to you. Not all of us like it, some of us are easily frustrated by it and that's why we CHOSE to play on a PVE server. We made that decision because it is what we are comfortable with. This attitude that many have of "Oh I like it so you need to suck it up too" is honestly disgusting. Many of us aren't saying "No don't make a server merge" because a lot of us can all agree that it would be a great thing to boost the servers that aren't doing well.

    What we're asking for is some sort of alternative for players who don't WANT to be in a pvp server. Why is it so hard for people to fathom that we just want compromise?

    Players aren't being forced to do anything. I literally went to MT this morning and ran around northern arun greeting people and getting nice responses. I went to velika outskirts to hang with the pvp duelers. Hell I even went afk to make biscuits and gravy. I came back and I was still alive. From there I explored the world to my heart's content without anyone troubling me.

    It's asinine to think that Highwatch's laidback atmosphere is any different from MT.

    All I'm seeing from a lot of people is ignorance and fearmongering. A lot of what-ifs and no real data to back it up.
  • My problem with HW is that there are so many new players (almost all are ninjas or brawlers) thats see my 65 zerk and priest as walking wikipedia or free stuff machine and no.one to run with in the higher lvls cuz of low skill and low gear of most
  • aeee98aeee98 ✭✭✭✭
    I guess lots of the people in highwatch dont even know what happened to their server xD.

    Have you realised that more and more of the better players transferred out of Highwatch? Quite a bunch of PvErs and PvPers pretty much transferred to MT despite it being a PvP server. Reason? Market inflation, lack of players to do content, Primal being completely stupid about PvP stuff (I kid. This wasnt the point). It was the stage where they RATHER go to a PvP server just because their PvE is way better. And MT does have many of the best PvE players too.

    I have characters on MT, HW, TR and AV, with an alt in CH to chat with someone. My first character however moved to HW from LoT during the free transfer period due to interest in new server economy. I IMS with my characters on all my servers, and half of the players who I had to end up kicking because of bad attitude and worse than newbie gameplay unsurprisingly came from Highwatch. As such I am not surprised there is so much fuss when other players come in to burst their bubbles.

    As I have mentioned way earlier in the thread, LoT and VoT players [b]combined[/b] do not surpass Highwatch by volume. They needed a third server to keep them alive. And the reason why MT should not be put into the picture is that there will be way too many conflicts as well as server management if the PvP servers merge. That is the main reason why the lesser servers are merged. I would say this, that if the three servers merge, I wont really care if it is PvP and PvE and will transfer over if its economy is good (if it is pvp then my conflate set will be put into slaying reds anyway), but I know that 2 is greater than 1, so odds lie on the highwatch people even though they are the larger group.

    I am sure if the new server is PvE, most of the OWPvPers will QQ about being the minority few about having no way to pvp people openly. (Btw Deathmatch is a little bugged), and they would transfer to MT. The idea is not to bring players out but bring players IN the new eventual server.

    The divide of PvE is the biggest problem EME has set for themselves. I dont know about the rest, but I got used to being ganked early on so it has nearly no impact on me. But if everyone has the nonchalant attitude about the PvP sector which will go through a major revamp in the times to come, then I will probably say there will be even more problems in the future.

    Things to note of:

    Highwatch is one of those servers where you can get ranked in skyring just by losing 1 game. While crusade is going to be over, at least you have that in mind

    All the three server's top guilds have left for MT and TR, and it is known that there are some pure PvP guilds who moved to TR and some pure PvE guilds who moved to MT.

    Main reason for transfers are the same regardless of server: lack of players, trash tier economy, no runs to do dungeons/battlegrounds with

    Highwatch has the most players of the three, but has also the least skilled players in percentage in all the three servers regardless of PvP or PvE. That means loads of casuals who would survive better in CH.

    Highwatch used to have a largerthanexpected amount of RP. And also the most trashtalkers in global hence the name Saltwatch. I sort of blame my ex guild for this but that is besides the point.

    Many of the PvP mains in VoT and LoT too left for MT already.
  • MorningCoffeeMorningCoffee ✭✭
    edited July 2016
    thekor wrote: »
    I don't remeber Vot ever at all asking to merge with high watch
    I don't think anyone wants to be merged with HW. Eeew, they have cooties. (Just kidding.)

    Soooo many people on LT/VT complain about needing a server merge, but you're right that no one specifically asked to be with HW, haha.

    It would definitely be nice to be able to transfer to PVE servers though. It seems to be the most reasonable choice since a nice chunk of players are worried about it.
    aeee98 wrote: »
    I guess lots of the people in highwatch dont even know what happened to their server xD.
    All the smart ones left already. So many complaints about end-game and economy come from HW. At least, from what I gather from immigrants to MT.

    Let's face it. MT sucked in too large of a chunk of players from every server. Me included. :)
  • I just realized something...these are the current servers

    Celestial Hills Roleplay PVE
    Ascension Valley PVE
    Highwatch PVE
    Tempest Reach PVE
    Mount Tyrannas PVP
    Lake of Tears PVP
    Valley of Titans PVP

    3 pvp and 3 pve...2 pvp servers are being merged because they are severely dead...so that means theres only 1 pvp server thats crowded...
    Whereas all 3 pve servers are crowded...only problem with HW is that the playerbase that it had suddenly stopped playing late last year...The point is majority of players favor pve servers over pvp, therefore if you want to appease the majority like you do when choosing which race to assign new classes to then you need to favor the pve players...Unfortunately the best option here would be to merge VOT and LOT and not HW with them...a merge of HW with either AV or TR is the only realistic option I see.
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