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Highest damage skills and longest iframes

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  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    WilLegend wrote: »
    Well, stone skin have a good iframe, but the cooldown it's so big that seems not worth...

    worth if the boss has long cd for ultimate attack
  • MinazukiMinazuki ✭✭✭
    Highest Damage skill which mean of DPH more than DPS...
    Longest iframe... who care on CD when it come to ask for longest iframe?
  • WilLegendWilLegend ✭
    Minazuki wrote: »
    Highest Damage skill which mean of DPH more than DPS...
    Longest iframe... who care on CD when it come to ask for longest iframe?

    Yep, just said cause if u can use 3 times a 30 second CD iframe with 3s, u will gave more invencible time than one of 5s iframe with 3min CD. Srry if u got upset about it...
  • PixelatorPixelator ✭✭✭✭
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    WilLegend wrote: »
    Well, stone skin have a good iframe, but the cooldown it's so big that seems not worth...

    A single long iframe is well.. kind of pointless. You're better with multiple shorter frames like double rolls, absorption, etc.
    Except ninjas have the best of all worlds. Short iframes on 3/4s cooldown, a backstab on 10s, a medium length iframe on OTC, and a long, party-wide one (that's on a shorter cd than Sorc's stone skin).

    And also the strongest hitting skill (Fire Avalanche). Go figure.

    But of course, this has been beaten to death already.
  • WilLegendWilLegend ✭
    Pixelator wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    WilLegend wrote: »
    Well, stone skin have a good iframe, but the cooldown it's so big that seems not worth...

    A single long iframe is well.. kind of pointless. You're better with multiple shorter frames like double rolls, absorption, etc.
    Except ninjas have the best of all worlds. Short iframes on 3/4s cooldown, a backstab on 10s, a medium length iframe on OTC, and a long, party-wide one (that's on a shorter cd than Sorc's stone skin).

    And also the strongest hitting skill (Fire Avalanche). Go figure.

    But of course, this has been beaten to death already.

    Well, it seems a little unbalanced atm, the only downside I can see at them is the leather armor, but as they have a kit with a lot o iframes it barely would be a problem, right?
  • LinXiaoXingLinXiaoXing Jakarta, Indonesia ✭✭
    Guys, why we dont discuss about every class `base` evade skills,
    like gunner class has a rolling, priest has a back step, lancer has a back step, etc
    and which are they the best and efficient :D
  • FelipeThomazFelipeThomaz ✭✭
    edited July 2016
    It would be amazing if you guys have some screenshots of these nice crits. I love then. Got some.

    From my personal experience.
    Main Zerk - Thunderstrike 16m, 12m Evasive Smash, 7.5m Cyclone
    Ninja - Fire Avalanche 15m last hit. Never got nice burning hearts, though.
    Sorc - Fireblast 14m max. No data to Hailstorm.
    Archer - RoA 12m max. Radiant arrow is pretty good as well. 7m. Penetrating arrow can get 5m.
    Gunner - BV 9m
    Warrior - Scythe 8m
    Reaper - Shadow Burst 5m
    Slayer - Measured Slice 5m
    Brawler - Phoenix 4m
    Lancer - Wallop 1.8m

    @Ketoth nice job. ^^
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pixelator wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    WilLegend wrote: »
    Well, stone skin have a good iframe, but the cooldown it's so big that seems not worth...

    A single long iframe is well.. kind of pointless. You're better with multiple shorter frames like double rolls, absorption, etc.
    Except ninjas have the best of all worlds. Short iframes on 3/4s cooldown, a backstab on 10s, a medium length iframe on OTC, and a long, party-wide one (that's on a shorter cd than Sorc's stone skin).

    And also the strongest hitting skill (Fire Avalanche). Go figure.

    But of course, this has been beaten to death already.

    My point was, the length is generally not relevant. No where did I say Ninjas lack iframes. All I said was it doesn't matter if One Thousand Cuts is a long iframe as unless you're using it to compensate for lack of experience you'll generally never be using it for the entire duration, if you even use it at all (because I rarely do).
    WilLegend wrote: »

    Well, it seems a little unbalanced atm, the only downside I can see at them is the leather armor, but as they have a kit with a lot o iframes it barely would be a problem, right?
    They're cloth, not leather.
  • dinnersdinners ✭✭✭
    Shut up :chuffed: . Overall, Ninja wins all.

    9 hits of fire abalanche. FA normally hits 4m, 9m, 15mil +6 more hits.

    Ninja got 5 iframes + faster movement speed.
  • WilLegendWilLegend ✭
    FelipeThomaz wrote: »
    It would be amazing if you guys have some screenshots of these nice crits. I love then. Got some.

    From my personal experience.
    Main Zerk - Thunderstrike 16m, 12m Evasive Smash, 7.5m Cyclone
    Ninja - Fire Avalanche 15m last hit. Never got nice burning hearts, though.
    Sorc - Fireblast 14m max. No data to Hailstorm.
    Archer - RoA 12m max. Radiant arrow is pretty good as well. 7m. Penetrating arrow can get 5m.
    Gunner - BV 9m
    Warrior - Scythe 8m
    Reaper - Shadow Burst 5m
    Slayer - Measured Slice 5m
    Brawler - Phoenix 4m
    Lancer - Wallop 1.8m

    @Ketoth nice job. ^^

    Whoa, brawler's divine wrath seems to hit mora tham this, are they equally geared?
  • mollyyamollyya ✭✭✭
    edited July 2016
    Highest damage skills? Do you guys forget Fury Strike and Overpower with all related glyphs?
    Certain skills have bloodlust effect that deal more damage when opponent has lower HP. Example Fireblast, Haymaker, Radiant Arrow, Sundering Strike.
    Longest Iframe? I think retribution and warp barrier has longer duration than 1k cut.
  • FelipeThomazFelipeThomaz ✭✭
    @WilLegend i know, right? Such a fancy skill. Zerk is full slaughter +12. Alts are all plus 12 dreadnaught perfect stats.
  • clfarron4clfarron4 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2016
    If we go for the skills that you can use very frequently, I'd say that:

    Highest Frequently Damaging Skill: Scythe - At least 5m, every 5 seconds. And that's before Deadly Gamble. With DG, it becomes something like once every 3 seconds.
    Longest Frequently Used Iframe: DFA - Between 1 - 1.5 seconds long, every 5 seconds.

    I know that Fire Avalanche does crazy damage, but you can only use it 3 times within 1 minute before it goes on CD for 2 minutes.

    I know that BV is something like 3 - 4 seconds, but you can only use it once every 3 - 5 minutes IIRC.
  • WilLegendWilLegend ✭

    clfarron4 wrote: »
    If we go for the skills that you can use very frequently, I'd say that:

    Highest Frequently Damaging Skill: Scythe - At least 5m, every 5 seconds. And that's before Deadly Gamble. With DG, it becomes something like once every 3 seconds.
    Longest Frequently Used Iframe: DFA - Between 1 - 1.5 seconds long, every 5 seconds.

    I know that Fire Avalanche does crazy damage, but you can only use it 3 times within 1 minute before it goes on CD for 2 minutes.

    I know that BV is something like 3 - 4 seconds, but you can only use it once every 3 - 5 minutes IIRC.

    Sounds good, but those Scythes of 5m or above doesn't need a full edge bar? Maybe ppl take mora than 5s to stack it. Idk.
  • AngelishAngelish ✭✭✭
    Shouldnt have any problem stacking it before its off CD, really
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