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WTF GF grants VM6 for lev

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  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Indeed I keep hearing that in DSU most people seem unable to function there without +15, and apparently the new 30-man will require "very powerful gear", though by that I don't know if the minimum will be mid tier, which in my opinion should be as that's the easier of the two to get and complete. Or if BHS will start expecting more people to jump into the VM bandwagon and make that the mainstream gear.

    I always thought of HM dungeons and VM gear as optional content made only for hardcore players. But it seems even casuals are getting up there (even if just being carried) so I'm not sure what to think anymore.
  • I was talking specifically about starfall vs slaughter :
    - vm gloves are always better because of 3% damage bonus.
    - slaughter weapon :
    + 5% more base stats
    - starfall weapon :
    + 6.9% damage from behind
    + extra roll (usually 7,2% cdr)
    - starfall armor has 4th damage reduction roll for tank, which is like a 5th hardy crystal and so much much more effective than a few hundred defense modifier. I don't think any skilled dps cares about defense.

    Yes if you have starfall, there is no reason to get slaughter. But slaughter is there for newer players. Easier to get.

    About the 30-raid. I think +15 vm8 is a must if they say it's the hardest dungeon we have ever seen.

    About DSU, +12 will leave very little room for error and it will take longer than+15 to clear any way.

    If you look around you will see almost everyone had +15. Multiple chars with +15 is not even uncommon. It's not exactly hard core anymore. Unless you play less than 30 minutes a day, you should have at least one +15 weapon.
  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    I actually have none. Never got it into myself to work for VM as I felt that's for the cool kids only. Been around games for too long and I'm already too slow at everything to feel like I'm actually relevant or a credit in an HM run, where those mats usually drop from. I'm also actually playing Tera nowadays for less than 30 minutes, with most days just logging to get the 5 fed bills and whatever the calendar has. <.<. Anyway, if I ever stop sulking in my own low self esteem, I'll try to start running harder dungeons and maybe get me a weapon with wings. :)
  • i see no issue in this since ktera also had a event like this except you can get +15 weapon for starfall scroll,starfall is outdated but still good at +15
    you can have the new patch gear and still be abit stronger then starfall giving starfall out is just a bandaid to help new players catch up in current content
  • Gameforge sucks.
    Their servers are dead. Who cares about it?
    They use this promotion to attract new players ...
    but: WE ARE NOT STUPID.

    You can do all dungeons in full slaughter +12.

    IMO: Know what to do in a particular dungeon > your SF or IMP +15.

    I've seen some players in full imp+15 played like a [filtered] in NM/HM dungeons.
    Money and gear don't change your knowledge and your human skill ability.
  • Yea "our Server" are Dead on EU ... Na is full of people ... The Server Merge on NA is just an illusion.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dialoonia wrote: »
    Yea "our Server" are Dead on EU ... Na is full of people ... The Server Merge on NA is just an illusion.

    yeah i know we suffer too, the game is old so we know it will happen especially with the mistakes bhs and enmasse did
  • StevenAnthonyStevenAnthony ✭✭✭✭
    Dialoonia wrote: »
    Yea "our Server" are Dead on EU ... Na is full of people ... The Server Merge on NA is just an illusion.

    ............. this servers always be a low population since was realease ( you know if you see the old forums treads )
  • NA always has low and highs. Server merges happen in every mmo. I have slaughter and SF+15 geared chars. Yes the +15 is better with the right rolls, but in truth it's not worth the cost or time. Just get slaughter to 12 and go after imperator if that's your thing. I run everything in Slaughter so why do I need better. I would go with the end game pvp gear if you pvp other than cs/alli and fwc.
  • aeee98aeee98 ✭✭✭✭
    Nopi wrote: »
    Indeed I keep hearing that in DSU most people seem unable to function there without +15, and apparently the new 30-man will require "very powerful gear", though by that I don't know if the minimum will be mid tier, which in my opinion should be as that's the easier of the two to get and complete. Or if BHS will start expecting more people to jump into the VM bandwagon and make that the mainstream gear.

    I always thought of HM dungeons and VM gear as optional content made only for hardcore players. But it seems even casuals are getting up there (even if just being carried) so I'm not sure what to think anymore.

    Nah they are expecting you to use +15 or else you will be one shotted by a random swing. Pretty sure that is the case.
  • CezzareCezzare ✭✭✭
    About the 30-man stuff, I guess VM8 will be preferred, but in other of the GM notes they stated the focus will be on team coordination and mechanics rather than having OP damage. Perhaps the gear requirements will be at least +12 VM8, +15 VM7 or equivalent.
  • Japan is also getting server merges too so stop belittling other servers thinking it's because of low population. This was intentional for most servers before the guild patch comes out. So settle down kids and stop acting like spoiled brats over server dominance.

    Actually, this is a really good point that I didn't think about earlier. It probably isn't a coincidence that server merges are happening across many regions right at the same time (EU, NA, and JP). You could say that it's a reflection of the state of the game in general, with may be true, but it's a very good point that it also aligns with the new guild content and the upcoming 30-person raid on the horizon. It wouldn't surprise me if BHS had some call with all the publishers and said "we're planning a hard 30-person raid that won't work with instance matching, so if you have any low population servers, now's the time to consolidate them." And they're all trying to get it done in end-August/early-September, likely just before the next major patch hits (and right after Crusades end). It makes sense...
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    i think it work with instance matching, but i dont think the group will done this 30 people dungeon ;)
  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2016
    No matter what, the raid will still be tried and completed by a very small chunk of the population, even if everyone else will want to try it. I can only assume it will be nerfed in a close future, and MAYBE in a more distant future it will also have a casual friendly easy mode for those unskilled like me to try it once in awhile.
  • CezzareCezzare ✭✭✭
    edited August 2016
    vkobe wrote: »
    i think it work with instance matching, but i dont think the group will done this 30 people dungeon ;)

    According to the release notes, it has no option for IMS, you either gather a 30-player raid to enter or you don't enter at all.
    Nopi wrote: »
    No matter what, the raid will still be tried and completed by a very small chunk of the population, even if everyone else will want to try it. I can only assume it will be nerfed in a close future, and MAYBE in a more distant future it will also have a casual friendly easy mode for those unskilled like me to try it once in awhile.

    Whether the devs nerf it or even buff it will depend, I guess, on how fast the players manage to clear it, other dungeons like SCHM got nerfed but most casual players were still unable to clear it anyway since it was a hard mode instance and, as such, it was meant to be cleared for players who liked challenges -the usual power creep and repetitive clears turned it in a cakewalk, but that's another issue.
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