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Another Merge Topic from an Edgy Pker

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  • PaulisAwesomePaulisAwesome ✭✭✭
    edited August 2016
    Masioceto wrote: »
    if you think that people care to find other people to gank then you're incredibly wrong my friend.

    there wont be people sitting in vg areas ready to gank. that's not how pvpers think.

    you highwatch players don't know anything about owpvp because you've never experienced it. you have this preconceived view about the subject which is why you are scared. it's understandable. but it's wrong.

    1) if you're not in fey forest or velika outskirts you're safe. people don't sit outside vg areas to gank. besides, most of them are protected anyways.

    2) people that might sit outside vg areas or hunt other players down are shitters. if you have endgame gear you could probably squash them. it's not hard.

    3) we dont give a [filtered]. we like to gank other pvpers. pve players aren't fun to fight because they either don't know how to pvp or are garbage.

    4) "dont knock it till you try it." even if you cannot be convinced otherwise, you can still give it a try before deciding whether or not to transfer.

    But that's just it;
    I'm not saying about the PvP players from the PvP servers.

    II'd be much more afraid of the PvE players, Who are extremely geared for PvP, Who do have the time to spend hours looking for someone..Because right now it's all they do in ally during PvP times. And you're telling me these caged up players with only a few outlets..Aren't going to abuse the hell out of a new PvP outlet(new to them) for the first few weeks or so?
    You might be surprised how many people there are that can clear the Hardmode dungeons (SSHM, ABHM, Whatever). I know most of my guild can do it, we just don't. When the merge happens, it will require some networking, but once people have created new friends, I think the PvE scene will actually be quite lively.

    As far as the community PvP creates, I don't know if you can judge a merged server so suddenly. This is the first merge we will have seen in a LONG time (ever since MT became a thing). As the player base of this new server, we will be in charge of deciding how toxic or friendly the server is... It's a fresh start for most. I've already communicated with my friends and guild that it would be best if the new server was a friendly environment, which means we will be leaving our toxicity on Lake of Tears.

    You're right I very well might be surprised. However I've transferred my archer to bot LoT and VoT for a week each... Tried to find some runs, some LFGing for shits and giggles, Meet some people..And I was met with trap after trap after trap for SSHM...And I'd dare not even try DSU there. And yes I know, you can't judge the server 100% just by a week there and it takes take to build up those friendships. However other places I can LFG sshm without a problem; Other servers minus HW I could LFG DSU without a problem either. That what I want, That's what I'm looking for again in tera..And that's why I'll be one of the first to leave.


    EDIT: Whooops forgot etc etc about community.
    Truthfully I'd 120% plus love to see everyone leave everything behind them, and make a new friendly server. It's the reason i went to HW to begin with during the free transfers. Maybe I've just been around tera for too many years, Or just not up with the times and socials. I'd love for it to happen however I just feel..This lack of faith that it would truly work out. That actually kinda makes me sad a bit D:<
  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nopi wrote: »
    Well said. More post like these from the perspective of pvp-ers are what's needed to clear the confusion. The one thing I may point is, since the server will be pvp65, I assume the PK spots at Fey and Oblivion will be dead, only leaving Velika and whatever new spot PKers find along the way.

    I think it will be the opposite. Those areas will become MORE populated, due to no more infamy being gained from pvp there. At least, that's how my fellow pkers and myself feel.

    I suppose your base is that pvpers want to pvp in that area and were never interested in ganking lowbies there, and instead just did pvp between themselves? Saw your other post about it so that's what I understood. Though that also depends on how many pvp-ers stay in the server. Though I assume many will stay since there's no free trasnafer to MT.

    As for those who want nothing to do with pvp, or those already worried/scared/angry (because let's face it, those scared of pvp are just scared to get angry at being PKed, since nothing other than a bruised ego happens when one is PKed.) IF pvp65 is just as described, only those looking into the areas where pvpers gather will see pvp. IoD is already a safe zone. towns are a safe zone. Areas where your character must go through as they level are also a safe zone because the character is not level 65. So looking at the whole picture, the server will be somewhere around 90% pve.

  • Eiiji wrote: »
    I would like to try the new server for a few days before transferring but nah, not interested in pvping with 200ms ^^

    Just because you are on a pvp server does not mean you have to PvP.
  • While sure most of that will be true after a small while.

    What alot of people are worried about(as far as pvp goes) On HW(my present main server); Several several people have called out that they can't wait to have PvP65 so they can finally hunt down and kill x player and y player. Openly stating that's their intentions...And i'd say about 70% of them i'd even believe it too.So it may very well be true for an estaiblished server..It's more getting to that point that's going to be difficult..

    So settling fueds, I see where you're going with this.

    Player X says "Imma mess you up Player.Z when the merge happens." Cool. Where's he gonna mess you up at? Inside Highwatch? Inside Velika? You can't. Plus, there's many channels in almost every region, so if you are really worried about being hunted down, just swap channels. Theres also players, such as myself, that just love pvp. I'll happily defend players from thirsty PvP players if it means I get some action.

    Then you clearly do not know these people; In ally PvP they pay other people who have them on their friends list just to know what area they're in.
    They make small parties just to search all the areas.

    These people know what wbams the other's need. They know their AFK [filtered] spots. Once you have thaat..It's really not that hard to track someone down..regardless of channels.

    Mean sure don't get me wrong, Idgaf about this; I'm leaving to AV the moment I can. (for more reasons then this).
    But that's what some people are concerned about.

    hahahahaha holy [filtered] you just pulled all of that straight out of your [filtered] didn't you

    you don't actually think this happens, right?

    right?

    You clearly don't pay attention to certain guilds on HW then.
  • SchwerpunktSchwerpunkt ✭✭
    edited August 2016
    TERA isn't anything like it used to be. There are very, very few people now who would actually lay in wait at a specific location in order to kill someone they don't know.
  • nobody said pvper is not good but that's not my taste and i more prefer pve and willing to use my time to do dungeon with my friends =)
  • ZeinsuZeinsu ✭✭
    edited August 2016
    ITT: PVP players ridiculing PVE players (whether informed or not)

    It's certainly making a great case for this merger. B)

    What I want to know is: are there any DSU groups in VoT/LoT? Because albeit low, HW only has 2 and could use more.
  • buy people to escort you around if you're that scared B)
  • aeee98aeee98 ✭✭✭✭
    Nopi wrote: »
    Well said. More post like these from the perspective of pvp-ers are what's needed to clear the confusion. The one thing I may point is, since the server will be pvp65, I assume the PK spots at Fey and Oblivion will be dead, only leaving Velika and whatever new spot PKers find along the way.

    I think it will be the opposite. Those areas will become MORE populated, due to no more infamy being gained from pvp there. At least, that's how my fellow pkers and myself feel.

    Actually you still get infamy from kills.
    Masioceto wrote: »
    if you think that people care to find other people to gank then you're incredibly wrong my friend.

    there wont be people sitting in vg areas ready to gank. that's not how pvpers think.

    you highwatch players don't know anything about owpvp because you've never experienced it. you have this preconceived view about the subject which is why you are scared. it's understandable. but it's wrong.

    1) if you're not in fey forest or velika outskirts you're safe. people don't sit outside vg areas to gank. besides, most of them are protected anyways.

    2) people that might sit outside vg areas or hunt other players down are shitters. if you have endgame gear you could probably squash them. it's not hard.

    3) we dont give a [filtered]. we like to gank other pvpers. pve players aren't fun to fight because they either don't know how to pvp or are garbage.

    4) "dont knock it till you try it." even if you cannot be convinced otherwise, you can still give it a try before deciding whether or not to transfer.

    ^ this. I think you can squash them with midtier gear as well.
    While sure most of that will be true after a small while.

    What alot of people are worried about(as far as pvp goes) On HW(my present main server); Several several people have called out that they can't wait to have PvP65 so they can finally hunt down and kill x player and y player. Openly stating that's their intentions...And i'd say about 70% of them i'd even believe it too.So it may very well be true for an estaiblished server..It's more getting to that point that's going to be difficult..

    You mean guild drama? Lol.

    To the 90% of the casual PvE community in Highwatch you won't even be targetted, unless you instigate someone to do so. And yes unless you have a very strong rep in the server in terms of PvP or a horrible rep in PvE etc there is nothing to fear lol.

    As mentioned in most players' perspectives, if they are KoSing you, you probably did something that caused them to waste time finding you in the first place. Such as feeding 3s. Such as being a complete [filtered] in global. Tell me how many people in Highwatch actually has a hater against them. And out of this how many are not even a well known player in that very small server.

    Although I know Primal will be first on the chopping board if anyone is instigated. :^).
  • Zeinsu wrote: »
    What I want to know is: are there any DSU groups in VoT/LoT? Because albeit low, HW only has 2 and could use more.

    No the people that could do them on VoT are taking a break or went to other servers others just run with their guildies and that's it. I mean people transferring it's what made the SSHM board to have only one player at some point a few months ago xD

    And @SovietMuffin well yep I did jump to conclusions heck I would get the ban hammer from all that BM I do on FWC. On my defense his 1st post seemed kinda legit but after that not so much.
  • edited August 2016
    Eiiji wrote: »
    Eiiji wrote: »
    I would like to try the new server for a few days before transferring but nah, not interested in pvping with 200ms ^^

    Just because you are on a pvp server does not mean you have to PvP.

    true, I just have to let some guy with big e-pen to kill me while I enjoy the landscape of Arborea.

    But see, this is where you're wrong! PvP players don't just roam the freaking maps, it's just not what we do! We don't even PK people randomly outside of the cities for the most part (Unless they are caught in the crossfire of another battle). You have to have some sort of reputation first to get killed, it's just how pkers are.
    aeee98 wrote: »
    Nopi wrote: »
    Well said. More post like these from the perspective of pvp-ers are what's needed to clear the confusion. The one thing I may point is, since the server will be pvp65, I assume the PK spots at Fey and Oblivion will be dead, only leaving Velika and whatever new spot PKers find along the way.

    I think it will be the opposite. Those areas will become MORE populated, due to no more infamy being gained from pvp there. At least, that's how my fellow pkers and myself feel.

    Actually you still get infamy from kills.

    How can you still get infamy from kills if its only for level 65s...?

    Zeinsu wrote: »
    ITT: PVP players ridiculing PVE players (whether informed or not)

    It's certainly making a great case for this merger. B)

    What I want to know is: are there any DSU groups in VoT/LoT? Because albeit low, HW only has 2 and could use more.



    We aren't ridiculing PvE players, more so calling out how uninformed BOTH parties are and that the reaction to suddenly change servers is uncalled for. We do have at least two DSU groups that I know of on LoT, I can't speak for VoT. I'd run DSU if I had a party too, but I don't really have friends that want to/need to. I was hoping the merge would swap that up for me... But it seems like a lot of people are hopping off the merge train before it even starts moving haha

  • Zeinsu wrote: »
    ITT: PVP players ridiculing PVE players (whether informed or not)

    It's certainly making a great case for this merger. B)

    What I want to know is: are there any DSU groups in VoT/LoT? Because albeit low, HW only has 2 and could use more.



    We aren't ridiculing PvE players, more so calling out how uninformed BOTH parties are and that the reaction to suddenly change servers is uncalled for. We do have at least two DSU groups that I know of on LoT, I can't speak for VoT. I'd run DSU if I had a party too, but I don't really have friends that want to/need to. I was hoping the merge would swap that up for me... But it seems like a lot of people are hopping off the merge train before it even starts moving haha

    ayyy you've got more regular groups then HW.
    HW has one core group that if you aren't friends with them you'll never get runs..or if you [filtered] them off for calling out their stuffs you'll never run again.
    Then another group that seldomly runs anymore

    Outside of that you can try and try all day but most people wont run without a few members from that first group.
  • ZeinsuZeinsu ✭✭
    edited August 2016

    Zeinsu wrote: »
    ITT: PVP players ridiculing PVE players (whether informed or not)

    It's certainly making a great case for this merger. B)

    What I want to know is: are there any DSU groups in VoT/LoT? Because albeit low, HW only has 2 and could use more.



    We aren't ridiculing PvE players, more so calling out how uninformed BOTH parties are and that the reaction to suddenly change servers is uncalled for. We do have at least two DSU groups that I know of on LoT, I can't speak for VoT. I'd run DSU if I had a party too, but I don't really have friends that want to/need to. I was hoping the merge would swap that up for me... But it seems like a lot of people are hopping off the merge train before it even starts moving haha

    I agree, the overreaction is kind of stupid from both sides and they do need to be informed. I, and other people in HW honestly don't have many issues with OWPVP - its just the vocal minority here that's making a case for "LUL HW SO SCARED" which is a rather lame misrepresentation of the server.

    So I guess endgame PVE players don't stand to gain much from this merge. Especially since the group PaulisAwesome has mentioned that seldom runs anymore (that I'm a part of) has plans to go AV.
  • SametbhSametbh ✭✭✭
    There are endgame pve players on highwatch who will stay after the merge. Not because they're okay with pvp but because highwatch is where it all started and where it all happened for them, so it's home.
  • There are endgame pve players on highwatch who will stay after the merge. Not because they're okay with pvp but because highwatch is where it all started and where it all happened for them, so it's home.

    Exactly, Your group will still be on the new server.
    Zeinsu's will leave to AV.
    That just leaves a few other PuG's the manage to get by left.

    After the little blurp of competetion, We'll be right back where we started. People will get bored again because there's nothing to compete with, That if you try to LFG anything difficult it takes a long while. That'll just lead to the same problem we've had in Highwatch the past year, once all the dust settles.
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