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Feedstock shortage! Any solutions Enmasse?

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  • edited August 2016
    VM6 BiS=10g each for T9 FS
    VM7 BiS=30g each for T10 FS
    VM8 BiS=~60 each for T11 FS?
  • VM6 BiS=10g each for T9 FS
    VM7=30g each for T10 FS
    VM8=~60 each for T11 FS?

    assumind you play on hw vot celestial and tr... 27g t9 50 - 55g t10 100g t11 feed
  • KetothKetoth ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2016
    well a superior weapon fodder used to be 200g (deathstain) in vm2 era. right now the same fodder cost you 48*30 = 1440 gold.

    How i miss that knx / knxx farms, fodder for days. But the masterwork was 150g each TT_TT
  • Ketoth wrote: »
    well a superior weapon fodder used to be 200g (deathstain) in vm2 era. right now the same fodder cost you 48*30 = 1440 gold.

    How i miss that knx / knxx farms, fodder for days. But the masterwork was 150g each TT_TT

    but then MWA if you truly needed it you could just farm LoT for hours while watching some netflix movie ._.
  • edited August 2016
    Nightx wrote: »
    VM6 BiS=10g each for T9 FS
    VM7 BiS=30g each for T10 FS
    VM8 BiS=~60 each for T11 FS?

    That's not how it works... dungeon drop will go one tier higher with the lowest being T9 from CW and KDC. VG will give T10.

    Eh? Prices don't work like that?

    These are the prices we had/have for VM6/VM7. With current rate, every new tier FS for BiS gear triples each gear cap atm

    During FIHM we had T9 FS for 10 ea on avarage for SF BiS and now we have IMP for BiS, T10 FS 30 ea on avarage.

    As I i've said before, either it's low supply or high inflation that made prices high.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nightx wrote: »
    VM6 BiS=10g each for T9 FS
    VM7 BiS=30g each for T10 FS
    VM8 BiS=~60 each for T11 FS?

    That's not how it works... dungeon drop will go one tier higher with the lowest being T9 from CW and KDC. VG will give T10.

    Eh? Prices don't work like that?

    These are the prices we had/have for VM6/VM7. With current rate, every new tier FS for BiS gear triples each gear cap atm

    During FIHM we had T9 FS for 10 ea on avarage for SF BiS and now we have IMP for BiS, T10 FS 30 ea on avarage.

    As I i've said before, either it's low supply or high inflation that made prices high.

    "On average it triples" and you only provide t9 to t10 as an example of it tripling. That's not how averages work. You also aren't even taking into account inflation, or even the fact it's easy to make gold at the moment. Also, for a long time you had the option of buying t10 at a much lower rate, and before that lower rate t10 was much higher considering t9 at one point was higher than what t10 currently is. Why did you, and others, wait this long to buy t10 feedstock?
  • Yamazuki wrote: »
    Nightx wrote: »
    VM6 BiS=10g each for T9 FS
    VM7 BiS=30g each for T10 FS
    VM8 BiS=~60 each for T11 FS?

    That's not how it works... dungeon drop will go one tier higher with the lowest being T9 from CW and KDC. VG will give T10.

    Eh? Prices don't work like that?

    These are the prices we had/have for VM6/VM7. With current rate, every new tier FS for BiS gear triples each gear cap atm

    During FIHM we had T9 FS for 10 ea on avarage for SF BiS and now we have IMP for BiS, T10 FS 30 ea on avarage.

    As I i've said before, either it's low supply or high inflation that made prices high.

    "On average it triples" and you only provide t9 to t10 as an example of it tripling. That's not how averages work. You also aren't even taking into account inflation, or even the fact it's easy to make gold at the moment. Also, for a long time you had the option of buying t10 at a much lower rate, and before that lower rate t10 was much higher considering t9 at one point was higher than what t10 currently is. Why did you, and others, wait this long to buy t10 feedstock?

    And you can't read obviously and make no sense what so ever. I'm talking about current prices...
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2016
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Nightx wrote: »
    VM6 BiS=10g each for T9 FS
    VM7 BiS=30g each for T10 FS
    VM8 BiS=~60 each for T11 FS?

    That's not how it works... dungeon drop will go one tier higher with the lowest being T9 from CW and KDC. VG will give T10.

    Eh? Prices don't work like that?

    These are the prices we had/have for VM6/VM7. With current rate, every new tier FS for BiS gear triples each gear cap atm

    During FIHM we had T9 FS for 10 ea on avarage for SF BiS and now we have IMP for BiS, T10 FS 30 ea on avarage.

    As I i've said before, either it's low supply or high inflation that made prices high.

    "On average it triples" and you only provide t9 to t10 as an example of it tripling. That's not how averages work. You also aren't even taking into account inflation, or even the fact it's easy to make gold at the moment. Also, for a long time you had the option of buying t10 at a much lower rate, and before that lower rate t10 was much higher considering t9 at one point was higher than what t10 currently is. Why did you, and others, wait this long to buy t10 feedstock?

    And you can't read obviously and make no sense what so ever. I'm talking about current prices...

    Pretty sure I can read. You're saying on average feed stock triples each tier, using only t9 to t10 to guess t11. So, again, that is not how averages work. Also, inflation. 1 gold currently is not equal to 1 gold from the previous patch. It's meaningless to compare exact prices from different patches after we were given events that let us generate too much gold, and clearly you have no data to determine the ratio of value of gold.

    Secondly, 30g is not high for t10, because again, at one point t9 was much higher than t10 and people still managed. Also, gold is incredibly easy to obtain presently and the game has no gold sinks other than broker fees (that elite negates mostly) so even if you take 200 attempts to reach +15 like I did it's still well in affordable range. Not only that, but you aren't going to realistically buy all the feedstock you use, unless you're lazy. Which of course, is your own fault.

    We've also had so many events that either completely dropped the price of feedstock while giving us an effortless way to farm them, or events that were easy to profit from allowing gold to be exchanged easily which also makes feedstock easy to afford for no effort.

    What are you even doing with your gold that you find 30g per unit to be high anyways?
  • edited August 2016
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Nightx wrote: »
    VM6 BiS=10g each for T9 FS
    VM7 BiS=30g each for T10 FS
    VM8 BiS=~60 each for T11 FS?

    That's not how it works... dungeon drop will go one tier higher with the lowest being T9 from CW and KDC. VG will give T10.

    Eh? Prices don't work like that?

    These are the prices we had/have for VM6/VM7. With current rate, every new tier FS for BiS gear triples each gear cap atm

    During FIHM we had T9 FS for 10 ea on avarage for SF BiS and now we have IMP for BiS, T10 FS 30 ea on avarage.

    As I i've said before, either it's low supply or high inflation that made prices high.

    "On average it triples" and you only provide t9 to t10 as an example of it tripling. That's not how averages work. You also aren't even taking into account inflation, or even the fact it's easy to make gold at the moment. Also, for a long time you had the option of buying t10 at a much lower rate, and before that lower rate t10 was much higher considering t9 at one point was higher than what t10 currently is. Why did you, and others, wait this long to buy t10 feedstock?

    And you can't read obviously and make no sense what so ever. I'm talking about current prices...

    Pretty sure I can read. You're saying on average feed stock triples each tier, using only t9 to t10 to guess t11. So, again, that is not how averages work. Also, inflation. 1 gold currently is not equal to 1 gold from the previous patch. It's meaningless to compare exact prices from different patches after we were given events that let us generate too much gold, and clearly you have no data to determine the ratio of value of gold.

    Secondly, 30g is not high for t10, because again, at one point t9 was much higher than t10 and people still managed. Also, gold is incredibly easy to obtain presently and the game has no gold sinks other than broker fees (that elite negates mostly) so even if you take 200 attempts to reach +15 like I did it's still well in affordable range. Not only that, but you aren't going to realistically buy all the feedstock you use, unless you're lazy. Which of course, is your own fault.

    We've also had so many events that either completely dropped the price of feedstock while giving us an effortless way to farm them, or events that were easy to profit from allowing gold to be exchanged easily which also makes feedstock easy to afford for no effort.

    What are you even doing with your gold that you find 30g per unit to be high anyways?

    Avarage works if I'm talking specfily about T9 and T10 FS. I mentioned inflation in my last sentence. Events made FS prices low, I agree. But that's the point, only during event FS went cheap. Outside of event, prices have been rising and rising.

    All in all, you assume way too on everything. I never said this FS price is good or bad, buying FS myself. I just stated those were the prices for T9 back then and T10 for now.

    My last sentence summed up current situation is either low supply of FS or inflation of gold which includes VG, events etc.

    FYI: I have 2x chars with full IMP +15 and i have only those 2 chars I'm playing with, about buying FS, I've done it twice only with low amounts.
  • PixelatorPixelator ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2016
    VM6 BiS=10g each for T9 FS
    VM7 BiS=30g each for T10 FS
    VM8 BiS=~60 each for T11 FS?

    Um no. Tier 9 feedstock in late April/early May (about same time in the Starfall patch cycle as we are now) was in the high 20s-low 30s gold each. So about the same going price as T10 now.
  • metagamemetagame ✭✭✭✭
    During FIHM we had T9 FS for 10 ea on avarage for SF
    i guess you could say...

    that ain't right!
  • metagame wrote: »
    During FIHM we had T9 FS for 10 ea on avarage for SF
    i guess you could say...

    that ain't right!

    I guess my friends where lucky ones as they were buying constantly around 10 ea. Price could have spiked at end, i wasn't really paying attention to price myself.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2016

    Avarage works if I'm talking specfily about T9 and T10 FS. I mentioned inflation in my last sentence. Events made FS prices low, I agree. But that's the point, only during event FS went cheap. Outside of event, prices have been rising and rising.

    All in all, you assume way too on everything. I never said this FS price is good or bad, buying FS myself. I just stated those were the prices for T9 back then and T10 for now.

    My last sentence summed up current situation is either low supply of FS or inflation of gold which includes VG, events etc.

    FYI: I have 2x chars with full IMP +15 and i have only those 2 chars I'm playing with, about buying FS, I've done it twice only with low amounts.

    An average is basically finding the middle ground of a set of data. All you did was list random numbers, made an assumption on T11, and that was it. You're also not aware of the impacts of inflation, because again, you used made up numbers and not actual numbers.

    The questions also aren't directed at purely you, but anyone who even has an issue with 30g being high. I'm not even sure what you having 2 sets of +15 has to do with the cost of feedstock being either acceptable or too high.
  • edited August 2016
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    The questions also aren't directed at purely you, but anyone who even has an issue with 30g being high. I'm not even sure what you having 2 sets of +15 has to do with the cost of feedstock being either acceptable or too high.

    My sets don't have anything to do with FS being acceptable or too high. I mentioned it cause you said in your first post I'm buying feedstock, which I don't and you don't need to buy feedstock at all to get +15 gear, unless you want to get it as soon as possible.

    I never complained about current price!
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    An average is basically finding the middle ground of a set of data. All you did was list random numbers, made an assumption on T11, and that was it. You're also not aware of the impacts of inflation, because again, you used made up numbers and not actual numbers.

    You lecture me for giving random numbers, yet you do exactly same with different price rates of feedstock. No set data, just random talk.

    If I made a mistake about T9 price back in the day, okey then. It's just what I remember.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2016
    My sets don't have anything to do with FS being acceptable or too high. I mentioned it cause you said in your first post I'm buying feedstock, which I don't and you don't need to buy feedstock at all to get +15 gear, unless you want to get it as soon as possible.

    I never complained about current price!
    The first you, was you as in the group, not you personally. (this is a forum thread, not a private message) Which is why the second you has or others afterwards. Even if you aren't buying them, other people clearly are, otherwise pricing wouldn't be discussed.

    I also hadn't said you complained about the current price, which is why I said the price is acceptable, or too high. Unless you find the price to be too low, or don't have an opinion either way, then yes I would be wrong if either are the case.
    You lecture me for giving random numbers, yet you do exactly same with different price rates of feedstock. No set data, just random talk.

    If I made a mistake about T9 price back in the day, okey then. It's just what I remember.
    I haven't mentioned any numbers other than the 30g per t10 (your numbers) with the mention of 200 fails still being affordable because the game lacks gold sinks (which is not an opinion). I've been discussing your numbers without mentioning any numbers from myself, or anyone else (at least not recently). As the only numbers I posted were screen shots showing the op was putting false numbers, so unless you want to tell me I edited screenshots they are also fact and not made up.
    i wasn't really paying attention to price myself.

    You also already said you don't pay attention to prices yourself.
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