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How hard Archer hits

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  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    RakWraithraiser wrote: »
    @Nopi I recently upgrade my archer to full +12 slaughter and I noticed dps increase around 7++k/s at DFNM/DFHM with double healer. I know low ping archer will easily pull over 1m dps (even in +12 Slaughter)...I guess ping matters in the end. Or I play it wrong.

    Talking about +15 Shenanigans...it's far away from my gearing plans... :anguished:

    Eh.. I know the feeling. I myself never entered the VM race because I'm much lazier now for games than when I was a kid. But around here, it seems the myth that +15 is needed runs strong in LFG and IMS. It's just a myth but, well, people... :/
  • dinnersdinners ✭✭✭
    Why do you want to join sshm with +12 in first place? You will be fine with ssnm. But, +12 lancer, war, archer, zerker and priest team will be wiped in first boss.

    Are you expecting that all other members are +15 but, you are ok with +12 in party?
  • RakWraithraiserRakWraithraiser ✭✭✭
    dinners wrote: »
    Why do you want to join sshm with +12 in first place? You will be fine with ssnm. But, +12 lancer, war, archer, zerker and priest team will be wiped in first boss.

    Are you expecting that all other members are +15 but, you are ok with +12 in party?

    So according to you SSHM reserves for VIPs +15? I can't stand your elitist attitude. Yes I am expecting my friends (was planning to remake static) which is geared well +15.

    Why would i need need to get +15 if my static willing to beat SSHM with my current gear?

    Don't comment if you are not contributing anything.

    And you sounds mentally challenge bro. :proud:
  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    +12 SL gets the 414 item level required to queue for SSHM. This means a full +12 SL party CAN clear it, in theory at least. Of course, this also means the players on said party must be extremely good players who know their classes inside out and make few or no mistakes. Thing is we will most likely never see such a scene because most of those same players are also gear mindful and are already wearing BiS.
  • WunziganWunzigan ✭✭
    IDK, I run DFNM on Conflate, and my RA hits for 6M+ avergage 800ks. Not bad considering I am all rolled for pvp on the archer. Now considering the new archer teaser trailer. I might main Archer back again for pve.
  • RakWraithraiserRakWraithraiser ✭✭✭
    Wunzigan wrote: »
    IDK, I run DFNM on Conflate, and my RA hits for 6M+ avergage 800ks. Not bad considering I am all rolled for pvp on the archer. Now considering the new archer teaser trailer. I might main Archer back again for pve.

    Thats good to know that someone willing to share new information about damage/gear. 800ks is not bad in DFNM. Do you include RF in your rotations? :chuffed:
  • RakWraithraiserRakWraithraiser ✭✭✭
    Nopi wrote: »
    +12 SL gets the 414 item level required to queue for SSHM. This means a full +12 SL party CAN clear it, in theory at least. Of course, this also means the players on said party must be extremely good players who know their classes inside out and make few or no mistakes. Thing is we will most likely never see such a scene because most of those same players are also gear mindful and are already wearing BiS.

    Yes. You are correct Nopi. I read previous thread stating that +12 SL Lancer was able to tank at SSHM w/o bleeding.
    With enough exp, good rotation, debuff and etc good party can finish SSHM without hassle.
  • RakWraithraiserRakWraithraiser ✭✭✭
    @Wunzigan talking about legacy class for IoD, I cleared tier 3 bams with my slayer without hassle. <3
  • WunziganWunzigan ✭✭
    I Dont include RF in my rotations cuz of ping merely. What i do ofc, is blazing AV glyph. With proper rollls and etchings, your main skills should be free to cast all the time. Bear in mind that MP is a problem unless u manage to get some glistening dyads. I personally use divine potions, cuz i had loads of them saved up.
  • dinnersdinners ✭✭✭
    Brotherbros wrote: »
    RakWraithraiser wrote: »
    dinners wrote: »
    Why do you want to join sshm with +12 in first place? You will be fine with ssnm. But, +12 lancer, war, archer, zerker and priest team will be wiped in first boss.

    Are you expecting that all other members are +15 but, you are ok with +12 in party?

    So according to you SSHM reserves for VIPs +15? I can't stand your elitist attitude. Yes I am expecting my friends (was planning to remake static) which is geared well +15.

    Why would i need need to get +15 if my static willing to beat SSHM with my current gear?

    Don't comment if you are not contributing anything.

    And you sounds mentally challenge bro. :proud:
    Nobody pays any attention to dinners lately. This person said that you need +15 gear to do high-tier Island of Dawn bams with legacy classes, LOL.

    It's people like dinners that wants ppl to have +15 Imperator before doing SSHM even though you are supposed to run SSHM with Slaughter gear to earn yourself an Imperator set to begin with, lol. That's why you see so many ppl on this forum so concerned about how to gear up cause of people demanding a VM gear to do something like SSHM. It's like Slaughter is too weak for this patch when it's just about the same strength as VM6 +15.

    LoL. This poor zerker is still whinning about zerker in IOD for 3 month. ^ ^
  • XaioliXaioli ✭✭
    edited September 2016
    RakWraithraiser wrote: »
    Nopi wrote: »
    +12 SL gets the 414 item level required to queue for SSHM. This means a full +12 SL party CAN clear it, in theory at least. Of course, this also means the players on said party must be extremely good players who know their classes inside out and make few or no mistakes. Thing is we will most likely never see such a scene because most of those same players are also gear mindful and are already wearing BiS.

    Yes. You are correct Nopi. I read previous thread stating that +12 SL Lancer was able to tank at SSHM w/o bleeding.
    With enough exp, good rotation, debuff and etc good party can finish SSHM without hassle.

    SSHM is balanced around +12. Having everyone +15 is the highest optimal potential to clear fast but +12 is fine if you can't afford it.

    Please follow these glyphs: http://i.imgur.com/HW9OWrX.jpg (because you said you had high-ping).

    As long as you have properly rolled gear and a decent rotation (along the lines of): RoA -> VM -> Ensnare -> Priority List of RA>ET>TB>Pen, you should be able to easily pull 1M, upwards to 1.3-4 if you have a +12.
  • Deleted UserDeleted User
    With a full party of alts ye, +12 slaughter can clear it. We all know several exceptional players who do more dps with slaughter than rest with +15. But take your average lfg party and let's see how many hours it would take, unless only one of them wearing slaughter and rest is +15. A player who is only aiming for slaughter is most likely a new player, without much knowledge about class/glyphs/rotations etc - you have to differ it from an alt of a veteran player who just doesnt want to pay for one more +15 char.
  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Xerray wrote: »
    With a full party of alts ye, +12 slaughter can clear it. We all know several exceptional players who do more dps with slaughter than rest with +15. But take your average lfg party and let's see how many hours it would take, unless only one of them wearing slaughter and rest is +15. A player who is only aiming for slaughter is most likely a new player, without much knowledge about class/glyphs/rotations etc - you have to differ it from an alt of a veteran player who just doesnt want to pay for one more +15 char.

    Or someone like me who never bothered with the +15 shenanigans. :)
  • XaioliXaioli ✭✭
    Xerray wrote: »
    With a full party of alts ye, +12 slaughter can clear it. We all know several exceptional players who do more dps with slaughter than rest with +15. But take your average lfg party and let's see how many hours it would take, unless only one of them wearing slaughter and rest is +15. A player who is only aiming for slaughter is most likely a new player, without much knowledge about class/glyphs/rotations etc - you have to differ it from an alt of a veteran player who just doesnt want to pay for one more +15 char.

    I join random LFG's on MT that can do it in +12 and do alright dps. Perhaps it may vary by server but I dunno, I've seen it done before w/ casual players.
  • HysphericalHyspherical ✭✭✭
    edited September 2016
    This hard \o/
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