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ENMASSE really the brains swam

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  • TiraniTirani ✭✭
    Magraal wrote: »
    Tirani wrote: »
    Magraal wrote: »
    Tirani wrote: »
    BioTheme1983 wrote: »
    Yes its slaughter. I've already used more than 1500 premium alk,and all without success...
    I guess I won the prize "loser of the month"?

    if you used that much premium alk and still failed all those times then you must be using the lowest FS amount possible per try there's no other reason you would fail that many times.. for chest pieces it'll allow you to select to use 3, 6, 18, or 36 feedstock per try, you should be selecting 36 everytime for all rolls above +6

    I actually use the minimum possible to get to +5, then the second lowest option to get to +8/9. Usually requires less than about ~300 feedstock for me to +9 any piece of Slaughter gear. From there I hit auto and let the game do its thing to hit +12, 90% of my Slaughter so far has required less than 1000 feedstock to reach the full +12. The value of doing this varies by the current feedstock price (T9 alks aren't free) but it's a clear example of how people can create their own 'rng'.

    i understand you can use less and still get the rolls, i do the same thing for most of my alt gears, but when someone has 1 succeed and 40 fails using only premium alks, which not only have higher chance of success but greatly increase the enchanting correction %, then they are doing something wrong, thats why i specifically said HE should be using the max amount for above +6 because HE will see much better results. ive never had a piece of gear go higher than 15% corection rate before getting the next enchant.. 40fails with prem alk is apx 40% correction rating.. definitely something wrong there.

    Premium Alkahest only have a slightly higher chance of success than Masterwork Alkahest, their biggest advantage is in the greater correction rate upon failure. Extensive Alkahest has a much higher chance of success than either Masterwork or Premium Alkahest, and is what I use for any piece that has gone over 1000 feedstock.

    ok.. so exactly what i just said..
  • AetonaAetona ✭✭✭
    Tirani wrote: »
    Magraal wrote: »
    Tirani wrote: »
    Magraal wrote: »
    Tirani wrote: »
    BioTheme1983 wrote: »
    Yes its slaughter. I've already used more than 1500 premium alk,and all without success...
    I guess I won the prize "loser of the month"?

    if you used that much premium alk and still failed all those times then you must be using the lowest FS amount possible per try there's no other reason you would fail that many times.. for chest pieces it'll allow you to select to use 3, 6, 18, or 36 feedstock per try, you should be selecting 36 everytime for all rolls above +6

    I actually use the minimum possible to get to +5, then the second lowest option to get to +8/9. Usually requires less than about ~300 feedstock for me to +9 any piece of Slaughter gear. From there I hit auto and let the game do its thing to hit +12, 90% of my Slaughter so far has required less than 1000 feedstock to reach the full +12. The value of doing this varies by the current feedstock price (T9 alks aren't free) but it's a clear example of how people can create their own 'rng'.

    i understand you can use less and still get the rolls, i do the same thing for most of my alt gears, but when someone has 1 succeed and 40 fails using only premium alks, which not only have higher chance of success but greatly increase the enchanting correction %, then they are doing something wrong, thats why i specifically said HE should be using the max amount for above +6 because HE will see much better results. ive never had a piece of gear go higher than 15% corection rate before getting the next enchant.. 40fails with prem alk is apx 40% correction rating.. definitely something wrong there.

    Premium Alkahest only have a slightly higher chance of success than Masterwork Alkahest, their biggest advantage is in the greater correction rate upon failure. Extensive Alkahest has a much higher chance of success than either Masterwork or Premium Alkahest, and is what I use for any piece that has gone over 1000 feedstock.

    ok.. so exactly what i just said..

    I don't see anything about extensive alk in your responses at all.
  • ImakattImakatt ✭
    @Tirani No reason to get so mad at other people's posts, if you get like this on forums i can't imagine how you are irl. But yeah I do agree that the op must be doing something wrong I've never seen that much failures that's so sad sowwy about that, make sure you use a good amount of feedstock and not just the minimum if that's what you were doing x.x
  • TiraniTirani ✭✭
    Imakatt wrote: »
    @Tirani No reason to get so mad at other people's posts, if you get like this on forums i can't imagine how you are irl. But yeah I do agree that the op must be doing something wrong I've never seen that much failures that's so sad sowwy about that, make sure you use a good amount of feedstock and not just the minimum if that's what you were doing x.x

    this guys continually posting behind me basically saying all the same stuff i did but trying to make it seem like i hand't already said it.. its annoying, appologies if your offended by it.
  • SylvietteSylviette ✭✭✭
    Do not use auto enchant ever ever ever ever ever ever ever
    If you fail a few times in a row, make some minor changes like using other kind of alkahest, relog, change location, etc.

  • TiraniTirani ✭✭
    Sylviette wrote: »
    Do not use auto enchant ever ever ever ever ever ever ever
    If you fail a few times in a row, make some minor changes like using other kind of alkahest, relog, change location, etc.

    yea i dont really trust the auto-enchant either, not that its really bad but i just prefer to tell the game when to use up my mats.. not let it suck them down at its own will xD
  • Deleted UserDeleted User
    Sylviette wrote: »
    Do not use auto enchant ever ever ever ever ever ever ever
    If you fail a few times in a row, make some minor changes like using other kind of alkahest, relog, change location, etc.

    How would that help? Superstitious BS

  • TiraniTirani ✭✭
    Mythogunner wrote: »
    Sylviette wrote: »
    Do not use auto enchant ever ever ever ever ever ever ever
    If you fail a few times in a row, make some minor changes like using other kind of alkahest, relog, change location, etc.

    How would that help? Superstitious BS

    i agree it is superstitious but hey whatever works.. back in the old days (original tera) i had different spots all over the world for specific things just because they were lucky spots.. always got what i wanted when i was in em.. so yea superstitious.. but superstitions exist for a reason..
  • BanimBanim ✭✭✭
    edited September 2016
    From +9 to +12 I use premium alkahest and the minimum amount of feedstock until I hit about 4% correction. Then go all out with MWA or Extensive and max feedstock. Most pieces will +12 with no trouble this way, and you save a lot of feedstock. Multiple times I successfully enchanted before hitting 4% and with min feedstock amount.
  • Deleted UserDeleted User
    If you want superstition...

    I fail enchanted my sf+12 gloves ~15 times before my lil skin switched to a duckie swimsuit with a chilly cloud over my head and blasted Katy Perry while doing a little dance for Forvarth... +15 in 20 tries after that c:

    Seriously though, for + 1-9 on my main I auto enchanted, and +10 -12 I switch between mwa, personal extensive alkahest, and personal premium alkahest.
  • Based12Based12 ✭✭✭
    Having so many people on starfall and imperator around, making slaughter shouldn't be this hard. Specially at this point where its about to grow old.

    Also, any new player would quit when trying to +12 slaughter.
  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Based12 wrote: »
    Having so many people on starfall and imperator around, making slaughter shouldn't be this hard. Specially at this point where its about to grow old.

    Also, any new player would quit when trying to +12 slaughter.

    Agreed. I'd dare say more than 50% of the end game community is using VM and a huge part of it has +15 as well, when said gear was supposed to be the rarest. It doesn't help that way too many players can't (or don't care to) get good use of mid tier gear thus it gets the reputation of being worthless trash. Heck, the other day I was on while waiting for the login rewards and I had these two talking next to me, saying they had +15 imperator throwaway alts..... wat?

    So yeah. I'd vouch for mid tier to get higher enchant rates. Not low tier rates, but at least something a bit better. The current workaround is to farm more pieces, at least 8 of each part, and use same-gear enchant. +1 to +8 are 100% chance, so that leaves you with only +9 to +12 to deal with. Unless those chances were only buffed for low tier? Though I'm almost sure they are for all BoP same gear enchant.
  • frenchbulldogfrenchbulldog ✭✭
    edited September 2016
    Even though alliance is dead, the one good thing to come out of it is the alliance enchanter. Seriously. It's still available to use, yet the headquarters are deader than dead. Not a single soul visits the area. You'd think there would be someone at least using the bronze enchanter.

    Since there's no gold enchanter, I decided to test out the bronze. For the first attempt, I chose to enchant my slaughter weapon with no help from bronze . Using MWA, +10 took 11 attempts. Then I used the bronze enchanter for +11 and +12. +11 took 3 attempts using MWA. Went with extensives for +12 and that took 2 attempts. All using the recommended feedstock. 1152 total feedstock used.

    Yeah, it's slaughter, it's just one piece of the set, and it's just me, but my point is: take advantage of the alliance enchanter.

    Just for poops and giggles, I enchanted some dreadnaught gloves using bronze enchanter. I don't know if it was made easier to enchant at some point. I thought I read something about it, but can't find it now.

    Using only MWA

    +10=1 attempt
    +11= 3 attempts
    +12= 2 attempts
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