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I'm not afraid of being wrong
1: The buff if utterly useless and only helps out a small percentage of the time in open world where you can mount/dismount or just never really works.
2: The buff is really good, and in order to gain that advantage people have to either buy from the broker or the cash shop.
If it's one, then this is pointless and never should have been implemented because it just incites controversy. It'd basically be an oversight on Blueholes part, which is not all that surprising.
In case of two, this would be a problem because it'd lead to pay to win scenarios. I disagree with people who say if it's available on broker, then it's fine because the inherent problem with P2W models is that money has to be paid. Just because you don't pay for it doesn't matter. Money was paid for that. The problem with that is the supply of the mount/material/whatever is taken out of the game's hands. That particular server will only have as many as people will pay for, and this creates a lot of frustrating situations and potentially make people feel forced to just buy it with real money. The problem doesn't come from having to pay money, people do that every day without a second thought in Tera, it's about the implications of something that affects combat being in the cash shop and the way those repercussions make players feel.
When effects like this come out, they should be mitigated to be available in game. Not because this one instance of something that is ambiguously p2w might completely break the game, but because actions like this set precedents. It was okay this time. How many 'a little maybes' until it becomes 'a lot'? We don't know. No one does, and EME has shown it's against what they want to do to include things like this. Examples like level up scrolls and things like that only affect non-dungeon, non-combat places of the game. I kinda like it the way it is, and I hope EME chooses to continue with that kind of decision making.
The issue here is that the mount will be accessible to those with the resource (buying EMP via real money or stocked up gold), so it's little effort to obtain a mount that literally gives you a large DPS boost. Imperator isn't hard to get, considering how easy it is to obtain the mats and design. While Quatrefoil requires you to grind a long time but it's not hard to get either (dailies and more character = more tears per day) and the mats itself is cheap in the market. Alternatively, it should be like a Smoulder which is dropped like a few have recommended to be in the upcoming 30-man.
But I prefer it not come to our region at all and stay exclusive in KTERA.
As long as it doesn't affect PvP then I am fine with it.
Who cares about getting more crit when if you are at that stage where you are nearly critting 100% of the time on your main skills and having that will only mean that you do slightly higher dps on your non main skills? Having that can be good to boost dps but it only shaves you a few seconds off the farm at best.
Crusade isn't even here anymore so there is no point worrying about score runs. If others have the mount for PvE and I don't, so be it! I enjoy a faster run with them having those mounts.
The only problem this item can face is when it comes to competitive (ie PvP). Since it doesn't give the bonus crit against players, it is safe against abuse in that scenario.
I don't really care if they're obtainable from the cash shop or in game, I just don't want this passive. Tera has lots of rng already.
Aaaand that's not the point. The affordability of the mount is not the issue. It's the source of the mount if it ends up being cash shop only.
It's a good thing they are aware them being cash shop only wouldn't be good. To me personally, this settles the issue. I'm still not happy about this kind of passive existing, but that's another topic.
It's ok, me and multiple people have explained why it would be an issue if it was cash shop only. Thankfully, it isn't gonna be, because even EME knew it would be an issue so they are making some available in-game. If you don't understand it, that's fine.
As for your assumptions, they are completely unnecessary. Did I ever resort to insulting you? I've bought elite with my credit card before, and I also buy EMP for gold from other players from time to time. I have no issue paying a few hundred ks of gold for an item. My only issue was the source for the item. Tera never had combat stats locked behind a paywall ONLY, offering ways to get it ingame, and thankfully it's gonna remain that way so far.
As for what I add to the game, that's not your concern, but I know I've contributed positively to this community in multiple ways.
And yes, saying I add nothing to the game, or implying I'm cheap, or that I contribute nothing, is an insult.
Exactly what I said before, but much better explained. Thank you.
Though since EME's post cleared it, I don't feel that sense of dread I had before.
You're not understanding his point at all. Let me ask you this: how can this item be obtained by yourself alone without ever spending a single copper or EMP?
I would buy them with gold if there was no other way, and likely still will even if they are also available through in-game means, because I play more than one character and I foresee the in-game method not being very easy. I'm just happy there's an in-game method at all.
If my concern was so wrong, then why was in EME's plans in the first place to make the mounts and their passive skills obtainable in-game? They knew if the only source to produce mounts in-game was only the cash shop, it'd go against their cash shop model so far, and mine and other people's worries were that that model was gonna be compromised. The issue has been clarified and settled by Treeshark and I'm happy with EME's decision. So I see no more reason to continue replying to your posts that keep misunderstanding and twisting my point, assuming things about me, questioning my involvement and contribution to the game, or my spending habits.
Good day to you.
If you don't see how this is potentially bad for the game and the longevity of the game, then we can't help you, no one can help you.
Either way, all this is a moot argument since the announcement was made that the item will be available both in-game and through cash shop. I don't know about Gameforge, but I will continue believing and trusting in Enmasse to make the fair choices.
You didn't read. I clearly said "yourself alone without ever spending a single copper or EMP?"
Meaning, how can yourself alone obtain this without spending such resources that has direct or indirect relationship with another person?