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Class Change Vouchers?

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  • You make the choice, so don't regret since it come with a price - time and money.
  • TWMagimayTWMagimay ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2016
    Anyway, I do certainly agree with the overall point that they want you to create more characters for the new classes. The fact that achievements are character-bound and take time is also what gets people to play more as they want to explore more classes.

    How many people do you know who have champion laurel on multiple chars/classes? I bet it's far less than the amount of people I know who don't even bother with gold. The ridiculous grind for char-bound achievements is not a good thing that entices players to go hunting. It's a detriment to most. If achievements were account-based...more people would go after them as it'd be something that lasts.
    Also, it doesn't promote exploring more classes, it has the exact opposite effect.
  • Nightx wrote: »
    Why do you want to class change after investing that amount of time/ gold / effort to think of changing to another class. I start to question your motives.

    If its a new class you're basically in the same shoes as everybody else, you start over...

    I have 4 priests and the one I would want to change to another class has costumes on it and I don't really want to lose the costumes.

    Why do you have 4 priests...
  • Aetona wrote: »
    Nightx wrote: »
    Why do you want to class change after investing that amount of time/ gold / effort to think of changing to another class. I start to question your motives.

    If its a new class you're basically in the same shoes as everybody else, you start over...

    I have 4 priests and the one I would want to change to another class has costumes on it and I don't really want to lose the costumes.

    Why do you have 4 priests...

    Because I hate healing
  • MoeBunny wrote: »
    this is actually something i was discussing with someone

    For Example: I have a priest with tons of titles, laurel & achievements, costumes, mounts, memories, etc on it. So a class change voucher would be nice since i can keep all that stuff on that character, I wont lose all the things i worked hard for (titles, laurel & achievements, costumes, mounts, etc) instead of leveling up another class that wont have all that.

    Make another and gain everything. Class voucher can effect the game negatively. You ran everything as a dps, you are experienced at many dungeons, ppl rely on that but you changed to a healer now, no one knows that and that [filtered] gonna effect many runs.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2016
    MoeBunny wrote: »
    this is actually something i was discussing with someone

    For Example: I have a priest with tons of titles, laurel & achievements, costumes, mounts, memories, etc on it. So a class change voucher would be nice since i can keep all that stuff on that character, I wont lose all the things i worked hard for (titles, laurel & achievements, costumes, mounts, etc) instead of leveling up another class that wont have all that.

    Make another and gain everything. Class voucher can effect the game negatively. You ran everything as a dps, you are experienced at many dungeons, ppl rely on that but you changed to a healer now, no one knows that and that [filtered] gonna effect many runs.

    How is that any different than buying a level 60 scroll for a priest, or being carried to 65 through dungeons (since no heals are required) for about 8 hours of game play and then instantly putting it in VM? It's funny how many people argue that the leveling process "teaches" you how to play the game, no, it does not do such a thing, it never even has. Experience with the class is what teaches you anything. Even back when it was slow people still complained about others being bad with their class. The leveling process is nothing more than an introductory to your abilities, but most people don't even read what the ability does as they unlock them anyways (or the tool tip lacks information or provides the incorrect information). The early level dungeons lack everything the mid and end game dungeons have as well, and most of the "bosses" early on are just BAMs. There's also the fact you can level through pvp and have no clue how to do any of the dungeons. Now, you could argue that your profile will show as "rookie" instead of "skilled", however, a class change could have that reset just as easily.

    The same goes for new classes, the same way level scrolls were disabled for them upon release, a class change would be disabled. It also wouldn't impact the dynamics of lower level ques, because class changes tend to cost a lot anyways, and would probably cost a lot more than the level 60 scroll; meaning only a small group of people would be able to even afford it, and as such, would only be used if they made heavy investments into the character's appearance and achievement, otherwise it would be a loss.

    There are reason for not having class change, but are any of these it? No.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2016
    ye make reaper and level up her to 65 and use class change voucher B)
    Nightx wrote: »
    Why do you want to class change after investing that amount of time/ gold / effort to think of changing to another class. I start to question your motives.

    If its a new class you're basically in the same shoes as everybody else, you start over...

    I have 4 priests and the one I would want to change to another class has costumes on it and I don't really want to lose the costumes.

    and what about weapon and armor, so your character walk naked ?
  • Yamazuki wrote: »
    MoeBunny wrote: »
    this is actually something i was discussing with someone

    For Example: I have a priest with tons of titles, laurel & achievements, costumes, mounts, memories, etc on it. So a class change voucher would be nice since i can keep all that stuff on that character, I wont lose all the things i worked hard for (titles, laurel & achievements, costumes, mounts, etc) instead of leveling up another class that wont have all that.

    Make another and gain everything. Class voucher can effect the game negatively. You ran everything as a dps, you are experienced at many dungeons, ppl rely on that but you changed to a healer now, no one knows that and that [filtered] gonna effect many runs.

    How is that any different than buying a level 60 scroll for a priest, or being carried to 65 through dungeons (since no heals are required) for about 8 hours of game play and then instantly putting it in VM? It's funny how many people argue that the leveling process "teaches" you how to play the game, no, it does not do such a thing, it never even has. Experience with the class is what teaches you anything. Even back when it was slow people still complained about others being bad with their class. The leveling process is nothing more than an introductory to your abilities, but most people don't even read what the ability does as they unlock them anyways (or the tool tip lacks information or provides the incorrect information). The early level dungeons lack everything the mid and end game dungeons have as well, and most of the "bosses" early on are just BAMs. There's also the fact you can level through pvp and have no clue how to do any of the dungeons. Now, you could argue that your profile will show as "rookie" instead of "skilled", however, a class change could have that reset just as easily.

    The same goes for new classes, the same way level scrolls were disabled for them upon release, a class change would be disabled. It also wouldn't impact the dynamics of lower level ques, because class changes tend to cost a lot anyways, and would probably cost a lot more than the level 60 scroll; meaning only a small group of people would be able to even afford it, and as such, would only be used if they made heavy investments into the character's appearance and achievement, otherwise it would be a loss.

    There are reason for not having class change, but are any of these it? No.

    if you read me correctly you understand the difference from level 60 scroll and class voucher. With level 60 scrolls you won't be skilled at all dungeons all of a sudden with a healer, but with class change voucher you will be, and that is some [filtered].
  • I'd just like to tell this story, it could have relevance, maybe not, but here goes.

    A while back, my friend and I were playing and decided "Hey let's make new characters" So we did, and since she liked the maid outfit that was out, I bought her one. (don't question my motives pls) but she used it and once she reached level 15 realized that she didn't like the playstyle of the class and wanted to reroll. She remade the character as a different class and the costume was bound to the first character she made, so she contacted a GM and explained what happened. The GM told her "The items in this game are not only bound by character name, but by class" Saying that each and every bound item in the game has a class ID that is either incredibly difficult or impossible to change, while gender race are easier.
  • WitchyGirlWitchyGirl ✭✭
    edited September 2016
    Hi guys
    sorry i didnt know there was this thread here and i started another one yesterday about this topic too.
    so i am closing my thread and putting what i said here

    here's what i said:
    How about a Class Change Voucher...that makes you Level 1 again?

    There are people who are against class change because switching from one class to another to have the same level would produce a lot of people not knowing their new classes.

    What if the class change voucher lets you keep your name and costumes and mounts (because thats unrelated to your class),

    But makes you level 1 again and even erase your achievements too (because you didnt earn it with the new class).

    So you have to level up and learn the class.
    I think that would be fair.

    This should help people from abandoning their characters.
    Make people use their abadoned character more with playtime....more motivation to buy elite to level up again or spend money/ sell emp to get the gears. .......and having players motivated to play the game itself is valuable because it encourages Other people to play too because no one wants to play an empty server. and more people in tera = more players to spend money.

    And with the recent *Merger*, people might have the TOO much of same classes from the different servers combined. Dont need 3 sorcs or 4 tanks...etc but don't want to delete them because of the items on those characters....

    there are gender vouchers and race vouchers already in the shop
    so lets say you are a Male Human Mystic and you want to be a gunner
    you would use a combination of gender and race voucher changes to get to your goal of a female elf , then use class change.
    and so you basically have to buy a bunch of vouchers using $$$$. and enmasses would like us to spend money. so it works out

    so enmasses can still make money from this race change
  • I whole heartedly agree with this needing to be a thing. There are dozens of characters I've deleted that had a ton of cosmetics. But I definitely don't want people to be lvl 65 immediately even after switching, so I love the idea of starting at lvl 1 again. Probably should let people keep achievements, but it's not that important IMO.
    I realize sending a ticket to EME usually helps out saving some of them... but I honestly think it's a bother for both parties.
  • the only reason people want this is because ''Muh costumes and laurel''

    Whats the point in having cash shop costumes if people are just going to buy them once and then never have to buy new ones because they can just class change to a new class.

    What will you do about gear? will it transfer over aswell? So my berserker with a weapon worth maybe 500k can class change to a ninja and just resell my weapon for 3-400k profit and then maybe change back again and keep this going till im richer than Kamizuma?

    There are solid reasons why this should never be a thing, and only reason people want it to be a thing is because they dont play the game enough, or are too jewish to buy new costumes or gear up alts
  • If a company introduce Class Change voucher, you gotta leave that game because no MMO developer in their right minds do that.

    Also, why delete a char? you can buy char slot, each server 16, also you can do add on other servers. I have around 40 chars now, around 20 of them got mounts and costumes. that is the biggest example why class voucher won't happen and should happen.
  • Class change voucher is possible in p2p mmorpg but it going come with limitation.
    Something like level reset, some title/achi remove etc.
    ( when you class change, some title/achi earn by the class sure would be gone too... maybe only those traveling achi would be stay )
    Costume would be depend on the company on p2p, but for f2p... business is about money...

    When come to spend money and people going against it?
    Make a new char for another class going spend more money on costume and such... I not sure who against spend more money now ~
  • Why does there even need to be a thing about class change vouchers.

    Honestly, just do what FFXIV does and your weapon determines your class. You swap weapons, you swap classes, each levels up individually.
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