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Dragon Mounts info release

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  • DeathologistDeathologist ✭✭✭
    generalderpy014 wrote: »
    Deathologist wrote: »
    that is exactly P2W, use that mount or no boost dps for you.

    By that logic
    >Using Niveots boost dps
    >Niveots are P2W

    EME remove all niveots please, they are more P2W than this mount cause its effect is not a chance proc but permanent. It don't matter that niveots can be obtained through in game means, its still P2W.

    Why are you bringing gears to this? is mount a gear to you? if yes, then I have nothing to discuss.
  • DeathologistDeathologist ✭✭✭
    Mythogunner wrote: »
    Deathologist wrote: »
    Mythogunner wrote: »
    Deathologist wrote: »

    You don't even read the reasons, don't say something that no one was even referring to, P2W here means you ride that mount and you get a dps benefit from it which is too much and you can't have the benefit from other mounts. if you wanna reply or defend something, think about why ppl are using the phrase, I was never using P2W, but in this case I do, cause it is, it doesn't matter how you obtain it, it is the benefit you get by riding a simple mount.

    Calling mount passive P2W while mount itself can be obtained for free by playing the game.

    Use different terminology here if you don't like the passive.

    that is exactly P2W, use that mount or no boost dps for you.

    Very twisted logic here. VM procs are P2W cause of reasons.

    Why are you bringing gears to this? is mount a gear to you? if yes, then I have nothing to discuss.
  • EllieChuEllieChu ✭✭✭
    Its a random proc, you cant decide when it will proc at all. I bet you, you will never see it during shadow reaping, or when you fire avalanche. or when you're buffed up. The duration is so small that you will get off 1 - 5 skills depending on what class you play. Take my class. A berserker will maybe get a TS off. If i have flurry of blows up i might get a cyclone off aswell. Now like i said earlier, its a chanced proc, so chances are i will never see this passive activate when i have flurry of blows up, or when a lancer adrenaline rushes. Its not even that huge of a buff, its like using a slaying crystal for 5 seconds. My TS wont go fro 7-10m to 20m or anything like that. I might do 6m more damage than i should have. In a dungeon like DSU where, take queen, has 2 billion HP.

    Its literally nothing, and its a free mount from playing the game. Anyone that thinks this mount will be a requirement for anything needs to just leave right now, cus you obviously dont like the game as it is, and is only looking for a reason to leave.
  • DeathologistDeathologist ✭✭✭
    Partyblast wrote: »
    P2W doesn't apply here since paying doesn't make you win in any way even if it does give you a DPS benefit buff. As mentioned in the news post this mount doesn't give you any advantages in PVP battlegrounds or open world aside from the fact it's a 290 mount (but 10 movement speed isn't a huge thing to worry about), since the crit power buff only applies to monsters.

    Also you don't even need to ride this mount for it's benefits if I'm understanding the post correctly since it states the passive skill applies even when not riding the mount, so just farm it out, learn the book and never ride it if the looks are unappealing to you. Having another source of a DPS boost is only going to improve dungeon runs, there's a very slim chance of being excluded for the fact that you don't have a RNG passive that may or may not work at all during a run, especially since there are no more score runs with the removal of Crusades. If you do get kicked from the run for the sole reason that you don't have a mount and it's not because you're bad at your class or improperly geared then congratulations you've met the elite 4 of your server that agreed to a kick, go back to LFG or create your own group. The only LFGs you'll see REQUIRING this mount will be joke LFGs all because you cried out that people are going to be mean and exclude you.

    If you are OK with the passive, say I am OK with it, I am gonna ride it for the passive, don't give some logic that doesn't add up, I have had this [filtered] in most of my thread and in the end it showed who was right and who was not.
  • Deleted UserDeleted User
    Will both mounts (royal and regular versions) be availabe for free? I don't care the skin.
  • ObsObs ✭✭✭
    edited September 2016
    Deathologist wrote: »
    Mythogunner wrote: »
    Deathologist wrote: »
    Mythogunner wrote: »
    Deathologist wrote: »

    You don't even read the reasons, don't say something that no one was even referring to, P2W here means you ride that mount and you get a dps benefit from it which is too much and you can't have the benefit from other mounts. if you wanna reply or defend something, think about why ppl are using the phrase, I was never using P2W, but in this case I do, cause it is, it doesn't matter how you obtain it, it is the benefit you get by riding a simple mount.

    Calling mount passive P2W while mount itself can be obtained for free by playing the game.

    Use different terminology here if you don't like the passive.

    that is exactly P2W, use that mount or no boost dps for you.

    Very twisted logic here. VM procs are P2W cause of reasons.

    Why are you bringing gears to this? is mount a gear to you? if yes, then I have nothing to discuss.

    It's pretty much gear at this point. You'll need to get one or two for all your characters. A 20-40% damage boost with a 4-8% uptime is 1.8% overall damage boost. People spend a ton on VM gloves, Etch 3s, 16 to 20 Crit, 3%ing, and other things. This gives more of a bonus than pieces of actual gear. It's like Inner Armor at this point.
  • HirokoTakashiroHirokoTakashiro ✭✭
    Mythogunner wrote: »
    Deathologist wrote: »
    Mythogunner wrote: »
    Deathologist wrote: »

    You don't even read the reasons, don't say something that no one was even referring to, P2W here means you ride that mount and you get a dps benefit from it which is too much and you can't have the benefit from other mounts. if you wanna reply or defend something, think about why ppl are using the phrase, I was never using P2W, but in this case I do, cause it is, it doesn't matter how you obtain it, it is the benefit you get by riding a simple mount.

    Calling mount passive P2W while mount itself can be obtained for free by playing the game.

    Use different terminology here if you don't like the passive.

    that is exactly P2W, use that mount or no boost dps for you.

    Very twisted logic here. VM procs are P2W cause of reasons.

    You can't buy VM from the cash shop, bad comparison.
  • EllieChuEllieChu ✭✭✭
    HirokoTakashiro wrote: »
    Mythogunner wrote: »
    Deathologist wrote: »
    Mythogunner wrote: »
    Deathologist wrote: »

    You don't even read the reasons, don't say something that no one was even referring to, P2W here means you ride that mount and you get a dps benefit from it which is too much and you can't have the benefit from other mounts. if you wanna reply or defend something, think about why ppl are using the phrase, I was never using P2W, but in this case I do, cause it is, it doesn't matter how you obtain it, it is the benefit you get by riding a simple mount.

    Calling mount passive P2W while mount itself can be obtained for free by playing the game.

    Use different terminology here if you don't like the passive.

    that is exactly P2W, use that mount or no boost dps for you.

    Very twisted logic here. VM procs are P2W cause of reasons.

    You can't buy VM from the cash shop, bad comparison.

    you can buy and resell EMP for gold and buy VM from the broker. Just like you can buy the mounts from the shop, or get them through ingame means in 3 ways. Killing bams, PvP, or buying them off the broker
  • HirokoTakashiroHirokoTakashiro ✭✭
    EllieChu wrote: »
    Its a random proc, you cant decide when it will proc at all. I bet you, you will never see it during shadow reaping, or when you fire avalanche. or when you're buffed up. The duration is so small that you will get off 1 - 5 skills depending on what class you play. Take my class. A berserker will maybe get a TS off. If i have flurry of blows up i might get a cyclone off aswell. Now like i said earlier, its a chanced proc, so chances are i will never see this passive activate when i have flurry of blows up, or when a lancer adrenaline rushes. Its not even that huge of a buff, its like using a slaying crystal for 5 seconds. My TS wont go fro 7-10m to 20m or anything like that. I might do 6m more damage than i should have. In a dungeon like DSU where, take queen, has 2 billion HP.

    Its literally nothing, and its a free mount from playing the game. Anyone that thinks this mount will be a requirement for anything needs to just leave right now, cus you obviously dont like the game as it is, and is only looking for a reason to leave.

    This is something else that bugs me, if this was wow i could have a mod that wans me when the proc would be up,but here it would be a pain to watch for while not getting killed..well in HM dungeons that is.
  • TWMagimayTWMagimay ✭✭✭✭✭
    HirokoTakashiro wrote: »
    EllieChu wrote: »
    Its a random proc, you cant decide when it will proc at all. I bet you, you will never see it during shadow reaping, or when you fire avalanche. or when you're buffed up. The duration is so small that you will get off 1 - 5 skills depending on what class you play. Take my class. A berserker will maybe get a TS off. If i have flurry of blows up i might get a cyclone off aswell. Now like i said earlier, its a chanced proc, so chances are i will never see this passive activate when i have flurry of blows up, or when a lancer adrenaline rushes. Its not even that huge of a buff, its like using a slaying crystal for 5 seconds. My TS wont go fro 7-10m to 20m or anything like that. I might do 6m more damage than i should have. In a dungeon like DSU where, take queen, has 2 billion HP.

    Its literally nothing, and its a free mount from playing the game. Anyone that thinks this mount will be a requirement for anything needs to just leave right now, cus you obviously dont like the game as it is, and is only looking for a reason to leave.

    This is something else that bugs me, if this was wow i could have a mod that wans me when the proc would be up,but here it would be a pain to watch for while not getting killed..well in HM dungeons that is.

    Watch for it why exactly?!
  • HeruvimHeruvim ✭✭
    Jesus christ people, 8 pages of arguing about some proc buff, who the [filtered] cares about that [filtered], i'm just happy we get flying dragon mounts lol, some of you ppl needs to get a life
  • HirokoTakashiroHirokoTakashiro ✭✭
    TWMagimay wrote: »
    HirokoTakashiro wrote: »
    EllieChu wrote: »
    Its a random proc, you cant decide when it will proc at all. I bet you, you will never see it during shadow reaping, or when you fire avalanche. or when you're buffed up. The duration is so small that you will get off 1 - 5 skills depending on what class you play. Take my class. A berserker will maybe get a TS off. If i have flurry of blows up i might get a cyclone off aswell. Now like i said earlier, its a chanced proc, so chances are i will never see this passive activate when i have flurry of blows up, or when a lancer adrenaline rushes. Its not even that huge of a buff, its like using a slaying crystal for 5 seconds. My TS wont go fro 7-10m to 20m or anything like that. I might do 6m more damage than i should have. In a dungeon like DSU where, take queen, has 2 billion HP.

    Its literally nothing, and its a free mount from playing the game. Anyone that thinks this mount will be a requirement for anything needs to just leave right now, cus you obviously dont like the game as it is, and is only looking for a reason to leave.

    This is something else that bugs me, if this was wow i could have a mod that wans me when the proc would be up,but here it would be a pain to watch for while not getting killed..well in HM dungeons that is.

    Watch for it why exactly?!

    To keep up with it when it procs so you could activate a class buff to go with it,although if it only last 5 secs i guess even a mod wouldn't help.
  • TWMagimayTWMagimay ✭✭✭✭✭
    HirokoTakashiro wrote: »
    TWMagimay wrote: »
    HirokoTakashiro wrote: »
    EllieChu wrote: »
    Its a random proc, you cant decide when it will proc at all. I bet you, you will never see it during shadow reaping, or when you fire avalanche. or when you're buffed up. The duration is so small that you will get off 1 - 5 skills depending on what class you play. Take my class. A berserker will maybe get a TS off. If i have flurry of blows up i might get a cyclone off aswell. Now like i said earlier, its a chanced proc, so chances are i will never see this passive activate when i have flurry of blows up, or when a lancer adrenaline rushes. Its not even that huge of a buff, its like using a slaying crystal for 5 seconds. My TS wont go fro 7-10m to 20m or anything like that. I might do 6m more damage than i should have. In a dungeon like DSU where, take queen, has 2 billion HP.

    Its literally nothing, and its a free mount from playing the game. Anyone that thinks this mount will be a requirement for anything needs to just leave right now, cus you obviously dont like the game as it is, and is only looking for a reason to leave.

    This is something else that bugs me, if this was wow i could have a mod that wans me when the proc would be up,but here it would be a pain to watch for while not getting killed..well in HM dungeons that is.

    Watch for it why exactly?!

    To keep up with it when it procs so you could activate a class buff to go with it,although if it only last 5 secs i guess even a mod wouldn't help.

    If you are holding whatever class buff you have until a random proc comes, you'll end up losing dps instead of gaining it. Unless you are the luckiest beep ever. Match your class buffs on guaranteed boosts like enrage, contagion, even hurricane or on specific burn phases. Not on a buff that might proc or might not proc at all during the fight. This is something on the side, for cool damage screenshots or that one time when it'll proc at the exact right moment and save the run through sheer luck. It's definitely not something to centre your dps around.
  • ElureElure ✭✭
    generalderpy014 wrote: »
    @Elure The Iron and Crimson dragon mounts can be purchased with special tokens that will drop from Level 65 BAMs and PvP battlegrounds. The Ghost and Diamond dragon mounts will be available from the TERA Store.

    Dragon mounts come in four color schemes—Iron, Crimson, Ghost, and Diamond—and all four colors come in both regular and royal varieties:

    Do you even english? Read the official page ffs.

    English is hard men
    English-is-Hard_o_121684.jpg

    thanks for pointing things out tho :)
  • DeathologistDeathologist ✭✭✭
    Heruvim wrote: »
    Jesus christ people, 8 pages of arguing about some proc buff, who the [filtered] cares about that [filtered], i'm just happy we get flying dragon mounts lol, some of you ppl needs to get a life

    We are happy about the mounts, but we shouldn't make mounts as part of gears, that is the problem and it is a big problem.
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