EME: Please listen to player concerns and remove the crit power passives from the new dragon mounts

Kreuziger · September 2016

This topic should be closed. But i want to see someone trying to get this buff to kill bosses in HM also waiting the CD.

Vesporax · September 2016

inb4 you get kicked for not having the mount. Rip new players. Have to make them grind or pay up before they can participate in any content.

THEPG · September 2016

I never understood why people care if more dmg is added to PvE.
I mean,its not like someone will lose something because suddenly you or someone else will deal more damage than usual.
Its a win-win scenario.No one loses and people gain from it.
Elitists will be elitists,having this or not won't really change anything in that perspective.

Aokamui · September 2016

Tarentino wrote: »

yea because a 6 second buff is soo OP, you do know you can also get it in game right without having to spend money.

Say that when archer revamp comes in. That 6 sec for archer gives them enough time to rotate a few skills that basically do an insane amount of damage, like a normal 9mil TB turned into 12.87mil TB and just think about if you ran slaying which gives and extra +1.77 crit multiplier. Which basically have you end up with 14.8mil TB with that. Now add a buffed/pretty strong Final Salvo (hits 40% more than using a full salvo pre-revamp), ROA (hitting 10% more) and an op RF(30%+20% extra from glyph overall damage increase) within that 6 seconds timeframe since you are doing 34.9% (13.41/9.94=1.349) more damage with slaying.

You're underestimating how big these damage buff from the dragons are for classes that are revamped. And the issue is not the accessibility here, as the subject has been discussed, it's the power creep that was mentioned when the dragons buff were FIRST introduced (meaning this issue was actually talked about) and what this thread is about.

Vesporax · September 2016

THEPG wrote: »

I never understood why people care if more dmg is added to PvE.
I mean,its not like someone will lose something because suddenly you or someone else will deal more damage than usual.
Its a win-win scenario.No one loses and people gain from it.
Elitists will be elitists,having this or not won't really change anything in that perspective.

Someone tries to recommend tera to friend:
"Yo dawg, I herd u lieked mmos, so try tera out. It only takes 1 day of grinding to get max level and is f2p"
"Whoa, that's awesome dude, where do I sign up?"
*friend levels up to max level*
"Bro, people keep kicking me saying I need a dragon mount or I'm just deadweight"
"Yo dawg, u nid to grind those bams for a couple of weeks before you can play with people. Did I not tell u that?"
"Oh ok"
*friend grinds for a couple of days*
"Bro, bams don't drop sheet"
"Yo dawg, I forgot to tell u it's cash shop only 4 now. They said it's coming soon, 3 weeks ago."
*friend quits*

Aokamui · September 2016

Tirani wrote: »

so by this logic all VM weps should lose their random proc's as well? QQ less.. get a [filtered] dragon and be on par with everyone else...

Because VM procs doesn't give you 43% damage increase for that few seconds while the dragon buffs does and it cd off ~40sec. Also, Blacksmith hammer doesn't work on boss and Imperator's VM proc doesn't contribute much. So...your point?

Yamazuki · September 2016

THEPG wrote: »

I never understood why people care if more dmg is added to PvE.
I mean,its not like someone will lose something because suddenly you or someone else will deal more damage than usual.
Its a win-win scenario.No one loses and people gain from it.
Elitists will be elitists,having this or not won't really change anything in that perspective.

More damage becomes irrelevant when things are given more hp to compensate and then it means you now have to get said extra damage. Sure, you see bigger numbers, but from a percentage standpoint it's the same thing.

TWMagimay · September 2016

Vesporax wrote: »

THEPG wrote: »

I never understood why people care if more dmg is added to PvE.
I mean,its not like someone will lose something because suddenly you or someone else will deal more damage than usual.
Its a win-win scenario.No one loses and people gain from it.
Elitists will be elitists,having this or not won't really change anything in that perspective.

Someone tries to recommend tera to friend:
"Yo dawg, I herd u lieked mmos, so try tera out. It only takes 1 day of grinding to get max level and is f2p"
"Whoa, that's awesome dude, where do I sign up?"
*friend levels up to max level*
"Bro, people keep kicking me saying I need a dragon mount or I'm just deadweight"
"Yo dawg, u nid to grind those bams for a couple of weeks before you can play with people. Did I not tell u that?"
"Oh ok"
*friend grinds for a couple of days*
"Bro, bams don't drop sheet"
"Yo dawg, I forgot to tell u it's cash shop only 4 now. They said it's coming soon, 3 weeks ago."
*friend quits*

I'm really finding it hard to care if that one single guy in an entire server quits because he's the only one without a dragon mount.

Proio · September 2016

First of all the buffs don't stack. So only 1 can be active at any time. It's RNG, and lasts 5-6 seconds. If you plan on waiting for a proc before using your best moves, you'll be missing out on a good chunk of dps. I highly doubt this is going to change PVE scene. Stop making such a huge deal about it. The mounts have only just been released and we're still waiting for in-game versions.

Wait a month or so and see what happens before making posts like these to try and scare people. As far as I know, nothing has changed yet. No LFGs asking for Dragon mounts or anything of the sort.

AEA6CM3C56 · September 2016

don't get me wrong instead of complaining to EME, instead spam them on BHS, something like head to their web/fb and complain as the game is designed by them and EME are in contract with BHS all the changes, nerfed, buffed, bugs, then the guild bank system are all up to BHS. it's BHS ruining the game tho.

AEA6CM3C56 · September 2016

as EME could relay the complains to BHS, BHS haven't given a [filtered] yet to any changes according to NAtera complains/opinions/database so yeah, rather than depending on EME you guys could work it out as well and flood them with what they should be doing. i may be wrong tho, don't eat me

PlagueFWC · September 2016

BHS had no issue screwing over people that bought felicity back when they decided to change stuff in gathering a while back. So saying "people payed money" doesn't matter. They've already shown they don't care about that.

Draqsko · September 2016

007Austin wrote: »

EDIT: Since some people are asking about my numbers, I go into detail here: http://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/comment/66329/#Comment_66329
Basically to see the damage boost from the dragon proc, take your old crit power + the boost from the dragon procs, and divide that by your old crit power. For a dps, this is (8.14+2+1.5)/(8.14) = 1.4299, a 42.99% damage increase on critical hits compared to not having the procs. Again, this is against an enraged boss, if the boss is unenraged the boost is even higher since you don't have the crit power from your focused crystal.

The buffs don't stack, the royal buff supercedes the regular one, so the most you can get is +2 which is 24.57% increase on crits in your example. It also has a 25% uptime (5 second duration on a 20 second lockout) but only if it has a 100% chance to proc otherwise the uptime will be lower.

SaphirKanzaki · September 2016

I'm too long here at NA Tera to fall into panic. We had the same discussion when innerwear was introduced, we had he same when Elite buffs were introduced, people even cried out "P2W" when Ghiliglade was limited.

As far as the math goes of OP, he calculates crit booster in this. I highly doubt they are counted in, however I don't have any information about this myself. Besides that, the dragons are a PROC. So you don't walk around and guaranteed one-hitting BAMs.

Relax, sit back and wait some weeks.

Draqsko · September 2016

SaphirKanzaki wrote: »

I'm too long here at NA Tera to fall into panic. We had the same discussion when innerwear was introduced, we had he same when Elite buffs were introduced, people even cried out "P2W" when Ghiliglade was limited.

As far as the math goes of OP, he calculates crit booster in this. I highly doubt they are counted in, however I don't have any information about this myself. Besides that, the dragons are a PROC. So you don't walk around and guaranteed one-hitting BAMs.

Relax, sit back and wait some weeks.

The royal dragon proc is +2 crit power for 5 seconds, on a 20 second lockout. Regular is +1.5 crit power.

Want to bet the OP gets the proc every time he has to move off the boss? RNGesus is a vicious god.

Edit: The procs don't stack.

EME: Please listen to player concerns and remove the crit power passives from the new dragon mounts

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