[TERA PC & Console] En Masse is closing, but TERA lives on! We will continue to support TERA PC (NA) and TERA Console until service is transferred. Stay tuned for more information.
[TERA Console] The Grotto of Lost Souls update (v85) is now live! Read the patch notes here: https://bit.ly/TERACon_v85
[TERA PC] The 64-bit update (v97) is now live. Check out all the changes delivered on August 11 here: https://bit.ly/tera64_patchnotes
[TERA PC & CONSOLE] Summerfest Part 2: The Beach Bash is on from August 11 until September 1! Participate in event activities to earn tokens redeemable for costumes, consumables, mounts, and more! Details: https://bit.ly/tera_sf20
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THANK U ALL PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT TERA!!! I AM HAPPY MANY OF U GOT THESE NICE DRAGONS. U DESERVE FOR IT FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
No, it's an RNG buff that procs very easily roughly every 40 seconds in a fight. And our concerns are not about this dragon mount making the game p2w, it's about the precedent this type of thing sets. Costumes and cash-shop items should NEVER be able to put credit-card warriors above other players. Now it's just dragons, but later on what will we get?
Besides, it's also YET ANOTHER expensive and RNG-based thing end-game players need to get to stay competitive.
competitive for what lol
I was thinking the same thing. If by chance there really was a problem with releasing the in-game version dragons then EME probably thought it was a blessing in disguise. Gave them a perfect excuse to release the EMP ones first. They could have waited and released them together on Thursday instead.
There are so many fallacies in that statement. Once he used the word "Fair" he made his argument moot.
- Not fair for those who didn't want a Diamond or Ghost dragon
- Not fair for those who can't afford to buy them (hence the in-game version)
- Not fair for those who have been promised that they would be released
That decision made it much more unfair to the vast majority of the people. The "Fair" thing to do was to wait and release them together at the same time instead of using it as an excuse for the blatant money grab.Thing is I don't really mind them releasing the EMP ones first. They should make money. I just had to call out on the blatant money-grab move disguised as an excuse to make it "Fair".
gr8 argument bro 10/10
I'll be the Devil's Advocate in this thread
TERA is P2W
The mere fact that you can sell Dragonlord boxes and purchase high gear is making it pay to win. Normally, farming for Imperator (VM7) gear would take at least a week even with a supportive party, but break out a hundred bucks to sell boxes and BAM, you got it in like 2 hours from someone selling it.
Same with other gear. Crit innerwear? Check. Niveots? See method mentioned previously. Gear rolls and enchantments? Again see method mentioned previously.
TERA is NOT P2W
Yeah, you gotta learn how to play the game. It's not like games like Dragon Nest, Elsword, Mabinogi, and Maplestory where having the gear/item sets allows you to faceroll even end-game bosses. You guys need to play an ACTUAL P2W game and then come back to TERA.
Plus, the staff needs the player's support in server management costs. Even if you guys scream that the servers for NA suck and such, it still allows your ungrateful behinds to play on an NA server instead of being forced to migrate to European, Korean, or Japanese servers. Players who buy EMP or Elites keep the game free for the people who don't seem to remember Tera was a Pay2Play game (in KTera at least). Players who fail to realize that server costs aren't cheap and cannot sympathize with EME are ignorant
Its fair, they're spending real money for something they want, and people would still be complaining on forums because getting a dragon:
-Its too much grind
-Its stupid if you have # of alts
-Tokens are too damn rare to drop (Even if they're not)
-EMP Dragons have a better buff than farmed ones (And THIS is the real reason on the non-EMP Dragons delay)
If you're going to take all EME's statements, you'll notice that they've told us that, store dragons we're too much out of balance against farmed dragons, so they're delaying farmed ones to give them a better buff and not give store dragons the P2W label.
I'm serious. What is there to be competitive for? Bragging that you can do 2.5 mil dps instead of 2.4 mil??? You're going to find that if you stop caring about what other people do in this game and just focus on yourself, you're going to have a much better game experience.
Some people like competing with others for dps. Just because you like to play the game a certain way doesn't mean that everyone else should be locked into your idea of how tera should be played.
right and those high end top tier players somehow are unable to afford a 300k mount???
Then that's the way you have chosen to play, deal with it because getting the highest dps is not only matter of skill(even if in Tera skill is way more important at the end than gear) but having BiS, if you are supposed to get BiS for min-maxing, then you have gold enough to afford everything in game.
If you can't afford it, then instead of thinking about being "competitive" in pve, think about how to efficiently play this game and that's something that Kamizuma can tell you better than me.
For now I'm grinding on 4 alts, for around 150-180 minutes a day. 2 alts doing low level IOD dailies and mobbing Northern Arun vanguards. My other 2 alts doing all IOD vanguards.
My rewards end up being 5k raw gold, 16 Colluva Ores, around 340 T10 feedstock, 340 MWA, 2-5 SE scrolls, 30-50 Fashion Coupons, and 4-5 Goddess Tears on a daily basis without using EME, but elite status.
I'm not pvping at the moment, just to solely focus on grinding to enjoy both aspects of the game, PVP and PVE later. In the long run you gotta pick your poison to get a return out of something in MMOs.
Either you grind up alot of your free time or you can use real money to avoid grinding for long periods of time.
How would a ninja be able to take full advantage of it anyway when all of the endgame dungeons have boss areas that are approximately 20 seconds away from each other unless you're running Channelworks. By them your chi would deteriorate making the 3rd avalanche hit useless. If anything probably a zerk, brawler or gunner would be taking full advantage of it.
Just like the op said, if they try to proceed it they would lose dps. Same thing goes for me when I use DFA on my warrior to get the speed buff to fight the IOD BAM. Those 15 seconds I sometimes waste for DFA could be used for me to get them at half health by then.
Seraphrose made a good statement about games being P2W or just giving too much of an edge to paying players. I've played both Dragon Nest and Maple story.
Maplestory's gotta be the worst out of all of the 3 MMOs he mentioned due to multiple items you have to buy for at least 10-12 equipment items to make them powerful enough for you to even do any damage. Maplestory's Market system is a Pay for Convenience system which Dragon Nest and Tera have for free, but the only thing those 2 games offer as a pay for Convenience option for their market system is just more listings with reduced or no listing fees. In Maplestory's you have to pay to trade things passively, if you buy a permit, you have to afk and do nothing in order to sell your stuff. You have to buy a Hired Merchant (which is much more expensive and expires more quickly than the cheapest permit)to get out of that and neither of those are permanent to make it worse on top of them being so expensive.
Dragon Nest on the other hand is P2W in the fact that costumes and accessories actually boost your stats and they release stronger costumes that you cannot buy in the Marketplace, but you must pay for and go through an RNG wall to get all the pieces for the costume set. If anyone is crying about Hello Kitty costumes being limited time RNG costumes, Dragon Nest is much worse with doing the same thing. Dragon Nest's market system is better than Maplestory's, but falls short because of limited listing you must use wisely as you only have 30 of them per character until their weekly Saturday resets. Simultaneous listings are much more limited than in Tera, space and expiration wise on both the free side and paying side. To make the comparison easier to comprehend I'll make a list of it.
Tera vs Dragon Nest free and paying player market system
Tera:Unlimited Listings, 10 simultaneous listings, fees are heftier than Dragon Nest's
Dragon Nest: 30 Listings per week regardless of item being sold or expired, 5 simultaneous listings. Fees are lighter than Tera's.
Paying Side
Tera : 50 Simultaneous Listings, Unlimited listings, No Listing Fees
Dragon Nest: 20 Simultaneous Listings, Unlimited Listings, Halved Listing Fees
Tera on the other hand is one of the least P2W games I've played so far, innerwears are the only stat boosting items you have to pay for which can be purchased through the broker or obtained as a free player. Almost every cash shop item is tradable in the broker.
Costumes are just for cosmetics just like for Maplestory, but Maplestory's costumes are only temporary making it completely obsolete in general.
Now if you mind, y'all should consider the position that other MMOs are in compared to TERA. Calling TERA is a mere joke, when other MMOs have a more P2W cash shop system only available for paying players.
I'm sorry but these dragons aren't a game changer and what exactly do you mean by competitive? Stay competitive with who or what? Seriously, there's no competition here. We do the most damage when bosses are enraged. Lets say you start a fight and tank enrages the boss, you hope for a proc but it doesn't happen.
Now you have to not only have your best skills on CD, the boss has to be enraged and your low chance RNG passive has to proc for you to take advantage of it for all of 5 seconds. I hope you're starting to realise why this isn't a game changer. I really doubt there are many people buying dragon mounts solely for some 5 seconds passive. I want one because it looks very cool. Plan and simple the passive does not give credit-card players any sort of real advantage over others.
It's RNG box but you can simply get one off the broker. If you're the kind of player who has to do the most amount of dps for whatever reason, then certainly you must have the best gear and surely you have enough money to buy the mount from trade broker.