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Best tank?
If I play again I'm only doing PvE, and only tanking. What's the best tank currently? Don't give me that =^_^= pick your favorite garbage. What's the best by the numbers and ability to hold aggro?
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brawler, it is alway party with crystal meth when you use brawler =^_^=
Not sure what they were doing to lower your fps, although in dungeons if you're with a Brawler that can keep Growing Fury for the entire run around 90 seconds of it being up with constant attacks it will cause everyone's fps to drop down to nothing in some dungeons. If you encounter this ask the Brawler to stop attacking for ~2 seconds or if you're the Brawler then do that.
off-topic, but is there proof of this? ive played brawler for a while now and i havent heard something so concrete as this
never lag bc of another characters skillz
think some ppl just run potatoes I mean a 2008 laptop Asus can play this game 4-5 settings
2. War and zerker tankers dps is weak. Lancer party and Brawler party clear dungeon faster than zerker/ War
3. At +12 gear, brawler party clear faster than lancer.
4. At +15 gear, brawler same as lancer party.
5. lancer requires some low ping.
6. War tank has worst agro.
7. Brawler/ lancer solo faster than war/ zerker tank. It means, they clear dungeons faster.
8. Lancer got the worst iframe among all classes. Lancer's backstep iframe time is already shortest and it gets even shorter with higher attack speed. Lancer is all good excpet 2 things. One is the backstep with very short iframe time. 2nd is, when FPS becomes low, Onslaught skill + shield bash combo pass through boss body.
9. Brawler problem is - lack of 2nd dodge skill. Originally, 1st punch + counter skill was another good way to dodge attack. It's been nerfed and it's not even better than walking now. 2nd problem is perfect defense. Many brawlers don't care and use perfect defense. It's like lancer who nvr use any support skills in dungeon party. Brawler needs to learn how to use perfect defense.
10. Lancer/ Brawler use lots mana pots. Lancer uses more. Don't try to save mana pots. It's cheap.
Here's one thread of people complaining about it, where someone else also says if the Brawler stops attacking it will stop-> http://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/comment/50413
While clears maybe faster as brawler, I rather heal zerker and lancer tanks that block like a tank should. Ony a few brawlers tank properly in IMS, most runs I do with brawlers that I really enjoy are with friends that know how to time blocks and counters properly likemost lancers and some zerkers do. Less need to focus on healing the tank and more time focusing on debuffs and healing the fragile ninjas...
Therefore, for me the best tank is a well played tank that knows how to time blocks properly and doesn't take insane amounts of damage expecting to be healed every second.
Lancer > Brawler > Warrior >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zerker
Unskilled team-
Brawler > Lancer > Warrior = Zerker
Warrior is the hardest to tank well with, requires a very specific build, and doesn't make up for the difficulty with anything rewarding. Zerker doesn't have infuriate which auto-disqualifies Zerk tanks from any hardmode or serious endgame run.
TL;DR of this entire thread: pick Lancer or Brawler.
That only applies to those persons who are elitist to the extreme, and it also happens in every single mmo where you have multiple classes.
Anyways, a lot of people already gave some good answers about the question at hand. I personally consider that Lancers are superior tanks, but that is just because i main a Lancer and have tried Brawler too, but it was not what i was expecting.
If you wanna be the Tank that support the party with both offensive and defensive buffs, and is extremely durable, then your choice will be Lancer.
If you however want to deal MORE damage (as of right now) than any pure DPS, roll your face on the keyboard and still be good, be the cancer of PvP, and overly feel like you are pro even tho all you do is use 3 skills out of like 15, without any extra effort and no gratification feeling that you did a good job, then you can go play Brawler. (my image of Brawlers is pretty damn low as of right now, sorry)
Gotta warn you, Lancers takes more skill to play than Brawler, but many will disagree with me, specially those who main a Brawler. Brawlers ability to block while attacking makes em in my opinion too easy to play. Lancer is also depends a lot from low ping to play right.
In the hands of a good player however, Lancers are superior. Even if you are a not so good player, or if you do not spend countless hours refining your skills, as long as you keep your priorities right, and do just basic skill rotation, you will be perfectly fine (at Brawler release, many of them totally dumped their role as a tank, and went full DPS just to be at the top of the DPS meter and increase their epeen, leading to wipes)
They dont have infuriate.
But imho, its negligible when pugging. I mean, how many pugs u've seen had enraged dmg crystals and rolls?
I dont even infuriate unless the pug party specifically asked for it. Or I asked them first if they enraged-ready.
Because before this, most of the time when i force enrage the boss in pug run, we got wiped. Enraged boss is extra stronk boss.
Its different when LFG or guild run, because we'll be going in prepared, geared up and armed to the teeth.
People are mostly talking about when the classes are played by experienced players with low ping, even though 99% of the player base aren't going to ever achieve those results anyways, and as such the advantage a class might have becomes meaningless anyways... Then again, the whole copy the "pros" has been an issue for a long time in most games. Picking the 'best' class for any role kind of loses its meaning when you're not with a static group also doing the same thing or geared as well, so I honestly don't see why people won't just stick with what they enjoy, or what works for them.