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So this is it? We will never get the free dragons?

EME how much longer do we have to wait? Tomorrow's maint wont bring the free token dragons i'm sure of it i just lost all hope. EME didnt you get enough money already from all these people buying the emp dragons? The boxes are stupidly expensive, so arent you satisfied yet? How many weeks will you make us wait for the free dragons? I'm starting to think that we will never get them at all...
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  • They're focusing on the current conection issues, please have some patience. Managing a game like this isn't easy, specially when you address so many issues in a single patch that you have no rights to fix by yourself.
  • BHS veto'd their release plan at the last minute, they're negotiating a new plan. Can't release them via in-game methods until the higher ups agree with their delivery method.
  • My main question is why are people so adamant about getting stuff for "Free"? I understand free is good, and I understand the argument of "Why pay for something that's overpriced when there's other issues that need to be fixed". I myself am happy with the mount I got at 65, and I'm happy with Sparky. I don't see the need of having a passive ability that might not even make that much of a difference. But, that's my opinion..
  • voidyvoidy ✭✭✭✭✭
    So the dragons were too imbalanced for people to get for free by playing the game, but not imbalanced enough for swipers to get for money?
    Like, is that basically what happened here? Am I missing part of it?
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2016
    Zyrrios wrote: »
    My main question is why are people so adamant about getting stuff for "Free"? I understand free is good, and I understand the argument of "Why pay for something that's overpriced when there's other issues that need to be fixed". I myself am happy with the mount I got at 65, and I'm happy with Sparky. I don't see the need of having a passive ability that might not even make that much of a difference. But, that's my opinion..

    It's not really free though, just because you didn't spend cash on it doesn't mean it's free. Free would mean no cost at all. The issue with it being IM only is it provides stats, and EME obviously think it's a good idea to have it be farmed anyways.
  • Yamazuki wrote: »
    Zyrrios wrote: »
    My main question is why are people so adamant about getting stuff for "Free"? I understand free is good, and I understand the argument of "Why pay for something that's overpriced when there's other issues that need to be fixed". I myself am happy with the mount I got at 65, and I'm happy with Sparky. I don't see the need of having a passive ability that might not even make that much of a difference. But, that's my opinion..

    It's not really free though, just because you didn't spend cash on it doesn't mean it's free. Free would mean no cost at all. The issue with it being IM only is it provides stats, and EME obviously think it's a good idea to have it be farmed anyways.

    And I'm comparing the difference between the "Free" ones for tokens vs the Tera Store Exclusives. Technically, from what I've heard, the free one is going to be free in the terms you don't have to spend gold or money, but tokens from your every day life in Tera. Yes, I understand, you'll look like a bad*** riding a dragon, because reasons. But I've seen people complaining, not you per say, but in game, I've seen people freaking out like, "OMG No free dragon's end of the world" kind of thing. Like someone above said, it does take time. I've done some Developing for a private server of a game as a 3D modeler. The way I had I to do things was just as above said.
  • Gotta love how they keep calling it 'free'. Wonder if people will call it p2w if it's on the level of quatrefoil grind... I mean, it's also free, and yet you don't see everyone and they grandmas with it.
  • voidyvoidy ✭✭✭✭✭
    Virtualoid wrote: »
    Gotta love how they keep calling it 'free'. Wonder if people will call it p2w if it's on the level of quatrefoil grind... I mean, it's also free, and yet you don't see everyone and they grandmas with it.

    When I called it free earlier, I meant that you could acquire it in game by spending time instead of physical cash. In that context quatrefoils are also free, because grinding the materials for them -- while time consuming as HELL -- doesn't actually ask the community to swipe their credit card in the same way that limiting stat-boosting mounts to the cash shop does.
  • Zyrrios wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Zyrrios wrote: »
    My main question is why are people so adamant about getting stuff for "Free"? I understand free is good, and I understand the argument of "Why pay for something that's overpriced when there's other issues that need to be fixed". I myself am happy with the mount I got at 65, and I'm happy with Sparky. I don't see the need of having a passive ability that might not even make that much of a difference. But, that's my opinion..

    It's not really free though, just because you didn't spend cash on it doesn't mean it's free. Free would mean no cost at all. The issue with it being IM only is it provides stats, and EME obviously think it's a good idea to have it be farmed anyways.

    And I'm comparing the difference between the "Free" ones for tokens vs the Tera Store Exclusives. Technically, from what I've heard, the free one is going to be free in the terms you don't have to spend gold or money, but tokens from your every day life in Tera. Yes, I understand, you'll look like a bad*** riding a dragon, because reasons. But I've seen people complaining, not you per say, but in game, I've seen people freaking out like, "OMG No free dragon's end of the world" kind of thing. Like someone above said, it does take time. I've done some Developing for a private server of a game as a 3D modeler. The way I had I to do things was just as above said.

    1. Some people REAAAALY like dragons,

    2. The dragon mounts are pretty much the dracolith and kaiator flight taxi models/animations recycled as player mounts. The issue isn't even development time; it's distribution method.


  • 1. Some people REAAAALY like dragons,

    2. The dragon mounts are pretty much the dracolith and kaiator flight taxi models/animations recycled as player mounts. The issue isn't even development time; it's distribution method.[/quote]

    I really like dragons,and want the free version over store one cause i think it looks better imho.
    correct me if im wrong but aren't these now the fastest land mount 290 speed since the alliance mount,and have the highest stam for flying so longer flying than any other mount too?add on the crit passive and its looking like they will just sell it in store till were all blue in the face asking when can we get it for free.
    It should of been released just as a cosmetic,not with all those extra stats...
  • It certainly isn't free to EME, The community that play this game is EME's bread & butter and the longer they delay the 'free' dragon mounts and say nothing the longer they borrow against the true value of this commodity. A wise business would know better. I personally wish more people would press EME for answers as I believe they are making a mistake by keeping us in the dark.
  • ShikineShikine ✭✭✭✭
    Magraal wrote: »
    BHS veto'd their release plan at the last minute, they're negotiating a new plan. Can't release them via in-game methods until the higher ups agree with their delivery method.

    I feel relly upset about this. They shouldn't have released the cash shop mount either if they are not working on bugs or anything, but basically has to make a new plan from scratch.

    It has too many benefits to not release them in-game, while its a reskined dragon again... it is purely cash grabbing...
    I am utterly disappointed in EME.
  • edited September 2016
    Shikine wrote: »
    Magraal wrote: »
    BHS veto'd their release plan at the last minute, they're negotiating a new plan. Can't release them via in-game methods until the higher ups agree with their delivery method.

    I feel relly upset about this. They shouldn't have released the cash shop mount either if they are not working on bugs or anything, but basically has to make a new plan from scratch.

    It has too many benefits to not release them in-game, while its a reskined dragon again... it is purely cash grabbing...
    I am utterly disappointed in EME.

    If you read into the politics, that likely wasn't their choice either. BHS approved for them to release the cash shop dragons according to the plan, but rejected the in-game method. In that situation, holding back the cash shop dragons until BHS agrees to the in-game proposal would be seen as holding revenue hostage (like a bargaining chip), and wouldn't put EME in a good position to continue discussing/negotiating the in-game method they want to offer. Given that EME is a sister company to BHS, the shared owners/investors could just intervene in that case, and it wouldn't go in EME's favor. (It looks like Gameforge also wants to offer these in-game and BHS put them on hold too.) So, in this circumstance, it's the best negotiation tactic they have, despite the way it appears to the players at the moment. It's better for them to eat crow for now in the hopes that, eventually, they can make good on their promise (rather than being forced to outright renege on their promise).

    Basically, business politics don't always go the way you want. (But this situation does actually teach us an awful lot about the political structure that TERA publishers operate in; publishers can only make decisions within the boundaries that BHS allows, or they'll get vetoed. EME clearly didn't think they needed to get clearance for this, and found out the hard way that they did.)
  • MagraalMagraal ✭✭✭
    edited September 2016
    Shikine wrote: »
    Magraal wrote: »
    BHS veto'd their release plan at the last minute, they're negotiating a new plan. Can't release them via in-game methods until the higher ups agree with their delivery method.

    I feel relly upset about this. They shouldn't have released the cash shop mount either if they are not working on bugs or anything, but basically has to make a new plan from scratch.

    It has too many benefits to not release them in-game, while its a reskined dragon again... it is purely cash grabbing...
    I am utterly disappointed in EME.

    I'm more inclined to look in Nexon's direction, personally. They seem to be taking a very hands-on approach to their publishing rights in Korea.
  • Squishies wrote: »
    Zyrrios wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Zyrrios wrote: »
    My main question is why are people so adamant about getting stuff for "Free"? I understand free is good, and I understand the argument of "Why pay for something that's overpriced when there's other issues that need to be fixed". I myself am happy with the mount I got at 65, and I'm happy with Sparky. I don't see the need of having a passive ability that might not even make that much of a difference. But, that's my opinion..

    It's not really free though, just because you didn't spend cash on it doesn't mean it's free. Free would mean no cost at all. The issue with it being IM only is it provides stats, and EME obviously think it's a good idea to have it be farmed anyways.

    And I'm comparing the difference between the "Free" ones for tokens vs the Tera Store Exclusives. Technically, from what I've heard, the free one is going to be free in the terms you don't have to spend gold or money, but tokens from your every day life in Tera. Yes, I understand, you'll look like a bad*** riding a dragon, because reasons. But I've seen people complaining, not you per say, but in game, I've seen people freaking out like, "OMG No free dragon's end of the world" kind of thing. Like someone above said, it does take time. I've done some Developing for a private server of a game as a 3D modeler. The way I had I to do things was just as above said.

    1. Some people REAAAALY like dragons,

    2. The dragon mounts are pretty much the dracolith and kaiator flight taxi models/animations recycled as player mounts. The issue isn't even development time; it's distribution method.

    Like, I don't mean to sound like a [filtered], personally. And trust me, I love dragon's. I took up drawing just so I could paint them on my bedroom wall when I lived with my parents some 10 years ago.

    But as Shikine said, "They shouldn't have released the cash shop mount either if they are not working on bugs or anything, but basically has to make a new plan from scratch." Since I came back to Tera, which has been about a week, I've noticed players, like in Kumas specifically, that are just cancerous in chat when things aren't going their way, and start blaming every person they can. I myself have tried reporting their abusive chat, however, every time I hit "Submit", the box greys, and does nothing. This makes me feel that the reporting system doesn't work. All in all, there's bugs that need to be fix with the game, as well as the mounts, yes. In my opinion, those should be top priority, not dishing out as much content as possible with or without bugs, and hope people forget about prior patch issues.
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