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Close but no Cigar - The People's Voice
Hello everyone,
We have come across a new patch and some brand new exciting content. However while many of us believe that the concept of this content is interesting, there needs to be a few tweaks here and there to make it a true "Guilded Age" experience. Similar to our success in https://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forums/general-discussion/topics/Dreadspire-II-The-Anticlimactic-Loot-Pinyata?page=1, we must provide our feedback in a civil and constructive manner. We also acknowledge that many of these changes are simply not possible for a publisher to accomplish, however we do feel that EME can act as a mediator of the peoples voice to Bluehole Studios. So lets cut straight to the point here. Below will be listed a number of ideas which we feel could make this patch great again! Each idea will have a corresponding straw poll which the people can speak through.
1. Completely bypassing recent content in favour of older content
The guild quests need to include Manglemire and Kumas Royale. Naturally we understand that there are a number of people who dislike this content, however the same can also be said about FINM x25, KDHM x25 and a few others. Worst case scenario, guilds who dislike this content can bypass it. But more options and variety is ALWAYS better.
*Solo Que 3s may also be viable.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11331777
2. Reduce the timer to spawn the Rally BAM
Any content which gives an opportunity for one guild to waste up to 2 hours of the whole server needs to be seriously looked at. We want to produce content that is fun, engaging and full of action. The matter of fact is, guilds will often purposely delay summoning this bam for the first hour or so because they know that they have complete control, and people will get sick of waiting. This needs to be reduced to 1 hour.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11331783
3. Restructuring the Rally BAM kill credit
If you are not the guild which gets the rally quest, the motivation to actually participate basically becomes 0. The reason why is because currently only the top 3 raids get loot, and quite often loot doesnt even drop for 1-2 of those raids (excluding insignificant gold drops). On the off chance your raid is lucky enough to get loot, you are still rolling between 19 other people!!! We propose that the top 3 raids should also ALL get the experience & contribution, however each guild can only get this once even if they have multiple raids. Of course the guild needs to have a quest available to obtain this reward. This kind of system may very well actually encourage PvP which is the intended purpose.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11331796
4. Removing dungeons before adding in new ones
The removal of Dreadspire was absolutely detrimental to the PvE scene. Many PvE'rs have now gone AFK as a result of this. A few months ago, JTera added ABHM as a special event (before ABHM was revamped to 65). We believe a similar thing can be achieved on NA with adding in RG as a special event. Why RG? Back in VM4 days, there were many people who had hundreds and thousand of RG runs. Its simple enough for the casuals, and engaging enough for the hardcore players to compete on DPS. We feel RG will fill the gap which occurred when Dreadspire was removed (not to mention being 100x more interesting than CW!)
http://www.strawpoll.me/11331839
5. Minimum Level to Accept Rally Quest
Currently it is possible for 1 man alt/bank guilds to claim the Rally quest. The whole point of this patch was to encourage team play in a guild. There needs to be a minimum level required to accept and complete the rally quest to prevent this abuse.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11331868
If anyone has anymore good suggestions, please feel free to advise.
Much love
Pomchi
We have come across a new patch and some brand new exciting content. However while many of us believe that the concept of this content is interesting, there needs to be a few tweaks here and there to make it a true "Guilded Age" experience. Similar to our success in https://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forums/general-discussion/topics/Dreadspire-II-The-Anticlimactic-Loot-Pinyata?page=1, we must provide our feedback in a civil and constructive manner. We also acknowledge that many of these changes are simply not possible for a publisher to accomplish, however we do feel that EME can act as a mediator of the peoples voice to Bluehole Studios. So lets cut straight to the point here. Below will be listed a number of ideas which we feel could make this patch great again! Each idea will have a corresponding straw poll which the people can speak through.
1. Completely bypassing recent content in favour of older content
The guild quests need to include Manglemire and Kumas Royale. Naturally we understand that there are a number of people who dislike this content, however the same can also be said about FINM x25, KDHM x25 and a few others. Worst case scenario, guilds who dislike this content can bypass it. But more options and variety is ALWAYS better.
*Solo Que 3s may also be viable.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11331777
2. Reduce the timer to spawn the Rally BAM
Any content which gives an opportunity for one guild to waste up to 2 hours of the whole server needs to be seriously looked at. We want to produce content that is fun, engaging and full of action. The matter of fact is, guilds will often purposely delay summoning this bam for the first hour or so because they know that they have complete control, and people will get sick of waiting. This needs to be reduced to 1 hour.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11331783
3. Restructuring the Rally BAM kill credit
If you are not the guild which gets the rally quest, the motivation to actually participate basically becomes 0. The reason why is because currently only the top 3 raids get loot, and quite often loot doesnt even drop for 1-2 of those raids (excluding insignificant gold drops). On the off chance your raid is lucky enough to get loot, you are still rolling between 19 other people!!! We propose that the top 3 raids should also ALL get the experience & contribution, however each guild can only get this once even if they have multiple raids. Of course the guild needs to have a quest available to obtain this reward. This kind of system may very well actually encourage PvP which is the intended purpose.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11331796
4. Removing dungeons before adding in new ones
The removal of Dreadspire was absolutely detrimental to the PvE scene. Many PvE'rs have now gone AFK as a result of this. A few months ago, JTera added ABHM as a special event (before ABHM was revamped to 65). We believe a similar thing can be achieved on NA with adding in RG as a special event. Why RG? Back in VM4 days, there were many people who had hundreds and thousand of RG runs. Its simple enough for the casuals, and engaging enough for the hardcore players to compete on DPS. We feel RG will fill the gap which occurred when Dreadspire was removed (not to mention being 100x more interesting than CW!)
http://www.strawpoll.me/11331839
5. Minimum Level to Accept Rally Quest
Currently it is possible for 1 man alt/bank guilds to claim the Rally quest. The whole point of this patch was to encourage team play in a guild. There needs to be a minimum level required to accept and complete the rally quest to prevent this abuse.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11331868
If anyone has anymore good suggestions, please feel free to advise.
Much love
Pomchi
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Comments
Excellent idea.
Added it as #5
It is more agree to eliminate this quest, has hurt the feelings of my guildy other well, we were Top1 1 week without Rally quets, to come other and just do 2 Rally quets climbed to Top3, that served to make many instances, if a simple mission you're going to climb many positions, is more'm sure in all server always take the Rally quest the Top1, and said by the way, all speculate they do with bot's or macros, it is so unfair that, and I think if you take away those points Quets Rally to those guild assure you that neither asomarian the Top10, since only come to take the Quest Rally and disconnected, add nothing to Tera, enter [filtered] more than anything.
Regarding to the topic, and for we can make a healthy discussion i will just to counter arguments (MY PESSOAL OPINION IS IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSALS, not what i will write below) .
5. Minimum level for rally quest is kinda difficult, since if the level is too high, it will create a gap between the first guild to hit the level and the low active players. If is too low i will be really easy to alt guild get this level.
4. Dreadspire removal was kinda sad. But you need remember that dreadspire had the concept of staying for like 1-2months in the begin. Not like 4-5 months (expected for next pacth). The problem is that people burn through content so fast, that after 1-2months they say there is no other things to run (maybe if people didn't do 8-12 runs of SSHM a day in the begin of the patch, they wouldn't find SSHM boring now).
3. The rally quest exp is a great issue. But if you distribute the exp for the top raid/guild, the guild with less people will not have the change to get that jump in the exp, i will completely remove the interest in these guilds to do these quests.
2. Wasting 2hrs of several people are kinda annoying, bu need remember that guilds with low population get the quests but just 1 person is online, and he probably wants to call his guilds for RL duties in order to kill the BAM.
1.I don't have counter arguments for these
in my personal opinion, I wish to eliminate this Rally Quest
Can we add 3s in there too? Would probably slightly help in making it pop too.