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Dragons Update (9/30/16)

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  • NanahiraNanahira ✭✭
    edited September 2016
    Wait wait

    "
    - The regular varieties restore 1 percent of your max HP and MP per second, have a flight and ground movement speed of 290, and have a flight duration of 694. Regular flying dragon mounts also grant you the passive skill Dragon Master, which grants a chance to increase your Crit Power at random against monsters by a factor of 1.5, even when you are not mounted.

    - The royal varieties restore 2 percent of your max HP and MP per second, have a flight and ground movement speed of 290, have a flight duration of 928, and provide a +10 increase to ground movement speed to you and all party members within 30m. Royal flying mounts also grant you the passive skill Draconis Rex, which grants a chance to double your Crit Power at random against monsters, even when you are not mounted."

    So the dragons we'll getting soon in game only have the 1.5x crit power?

    So if i want more damage (2x) ,i'll have to pay with emp ? if yes then its 100% p2w
  • Spacecats wrote: »
    Ketoth wrote: »
    so dragons with the new dungeons only ...

    And what you mean with dedicated players`?

    Those who play all the time. Players who are looking forward to earning the dragons through in-game means.

    Also, they're not tied to any new dungeons or content updates.

    During the stream, you talked about the number of tokens that people needed to get a dragon. It was 5-7 tokens per battleground win if you get a jackpot match, and you needed something silly like 600 or 800 to buy a dragon? Are you still going to have that implementation or do you plan to scrap it for another one? From this it sounds like playtime will be a factor?
  • EndevaEndeva ✭✭✭✭✭
    Spacecats wrote: »
    Ketoth wrote: »
    so dragons with the new dungeons only ...

    And what you mean with dedicated players`?

    Those who play all the time. Players who are looking forward to earning the dragons through in-game means.

    Also, they're not tied to any new dungeons or content updates.

    During the stream, you talked about the number of tokens that people needed to get a dragon. It was 5-7 tokens per battleground win if you get a jackpot match, and you needed something silly like 600 or 800 to buy a dragon? Are you still going to have that implementation or do you plan to scrap it for another one? From this it sounds like playtime will be a factor?

    Original distribution of in-game dragons was scrapped for some reason, En Masse hasn't said why yet... we can only speculate.
  • narkfestmojonarkfestmojo ✭✭✭
    edited September 2016
    @Nanahira
    unless they changed something, the greater and lesser variants of the mount will both be available in game as both iron/crimson mounts.

    EDIT - Please don't discuss forum moderation. It just derails the conversation. Thank you! -Spacecats
  • Idi0ticGeniusIdi0ticGenius ✭✭✭✭✭
    When KTERA GM note released info about dragon on 9/28 (technically 9/29 in korea), they said that they too have it planned for in-game release on later October. BHS is probably just planning to release it in both KR and NA region at the similar time.
  • EndevaEndeva ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2016
    EDIT - Please don't discuss forum moderation. It just derails the conversation. Thank you! -Spacecats
  • KetothKetoth ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2016
    EDIT - Please don't discuss forum moderation. It just derails the conversation. Thank you! -Spacecats
  • @spacecats
    Spacecats wrote: »
    Stricera wrote: »
    " dedicated players " I've been playing just about nonstop everyday for 3 years. I hope I get a dragon

    I hope you do too. You're exactly the kind of player we want to make sure has an excellent shot at one.

    an excellent shot at one????? does that mean it will some sort of potion shop, lottery, bam hunt that drops the rng letters, or will it still be obtainable by farming level 65 and above bams and getting token drops..??? please explain.
  • SpacecatsSpacecats ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nanahira wrote: »
    Wait wait

    "
    - The regular varieties restore 1 percent of your max HP and MP per second, have a flight and ground movement speed of 290, and have a flight duration of 694. Regular flying dragon mounts also grant you the passive skill Dragon Master, which grants a chance to increase your Crit Power at random against monsters by a factor of 1.5, even when you are not mounted.

    - The royal varieties restore 2 percent of your max HP and MP per second, have a flight and ground movement speed of 290, have a flight duration of 928, and provide a +10 increase to ground movement speed to you and all party members within 30m. Royal flying mounts also grant you the passive skill Draconis Rex, which grants a chance to double your Crit Power at random against monsters, even when you are not mounted."

    So the dragons we'll getting soon in game only have the 1.5x crit power?

    So if i want more damage (2x) ,i'll have to pay with emp ? if yes then its 100% p2w

    That text is explaining is that two dragon versions exist. Normal and Royal. There will be more details once we're ready to release in-game methods for getting dragons.
  • I would like to get some idea about what was wrong with the original plan?
    Spacecats wrote: »
    Ketoth wrote: »
    so dragons with the new dungeons only ...

    And what you mean with dedicated players`?

    Those who play all the time. Players who are looking forward to earning the dragons through in-game means.

    Also, they're not tied to any new dungeons or content updates.

    During the stream, you talked about the number of tokens that people needed to get a dragon. It was 5-7 tokens per battleground win if you get a jackpot match, and you needed something silly like 600 or 800 to buy a dragon? Are you still going to have that implementation or do you plan to scrap it for another one? From this it sounds like playtime will be a factor?

    If this was the original plan then it sounds like it probably wasn't grindy enough, ~100 FWC victories is casual AF, need something that is almost a 2nd job. If you have seen the sun today then no dragon for you. Pee jar next to your computer and sitting on 12 empty pizza boxes, that is the way.
  • SpacecatsSpacecats ✭✭✭✭✭
    Spacecats wrote: »
    Ketoth wrote: »
    so dragons with the new dungeons only ...

    And what you mean with dedicated players`?

    Those who play all the time. Players who are looking forward to earning the dragons through in-game means.

    Also, they're not tied to any new dungeons or content updates.

    During the stream, you talked about the number of tokens that people needed to get a dragon. It was 5-7 tokens per battleground win if you get a jackpot match, and you needed something silly like 600 or 800 to buy a dragon? Are you still going to have that implementation or do you plan to scrap it for another one? From this it sounds like playtime will be a factor?

    Sorry, no details to give. Everything I explained during the stream was our original plan, which is no longer happening. Players will have to wait a bit longer to know the new plan.
  • PKthebirdPKthebird
    edited September 2016
    Ginjitsu wrote: »
    Spacecats wrote: »
    We’ve had very long and intense conversations with Bluehole on the best way to go about this, and we’re almost at a resolution. It’s these discussions which are contributing to a longer delay than we’d initially hoped. At the moment, we’re aiming to have a final plan in place for in-game drops starting in October. While I would love it to be early October, realistically it will most likely be later October. At that point we’ll also be releasing iron and crimson dragons in the TERA store, but not until they are earnable through in-game means. As many of you know the diamond and ghost dragon mounts were never intended to be available through in-game means, which is why we felt it made sense to add them to the store with the Guilded Age launch. Iron and Crimson dragons, on the other hand, were set aside as a way for dedicated players to earn an awesome piece of TERA history, and that’s still our goal as our conversation with Bluehole continues.

    I’ll follow up with another announcement in October when a plan has been agreed upon. In the meantime, I know a lot of you are anxious for the release of these mounts, and I appreciate everyone’s patience in all of this as we work things out.

    Thanks,
    Spacecats

    Talk is cheap, specially when past discussions with Bluehole takes more than 3 months to implement!

    >.< I still get horrible flashbacks from bad balance issues/fixes with Healers being completely unscored and daft in DreamStorm/Nexus or tera gridiron. It just get sweep under the rug and they change subjects to the next patch or push for more really unbalance pay2win feature. I stop by to visit.

    I still cringe at the previous Whiteknights that defend bad changes:

    https://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forums/general-discussion/topics/Upcoming-changes-to-support?page=2
  • SpacecatsSpacecats ✭✭✭✭✭
    @spacecats
    Spacecats wrote: »
    Stricera wrote: »
    " dedicated players " I've been playing just about nonstop everyday for 3 years. I hope I get a dragon

    I hope you do too. You're exactly the kind of player we want to make sure has an excellent shot at one.

    an excellent shot at one????? does that mean it will some sort of potion shop, lottery, bam hunt that drops the rng letters, or will it still be obtainable by farming level 65 and above bams and getting token drops..??? please explain.

    No details are available yet, allofspaceandtime. I know it's easy to read into responses and try to look for more answers. Everyone wants to know how the dragons will be obtained. Honestly, it's just a matter of time before that info is decided upon and announced. Please avoid speculation as we don't want to accidentally spread rumors.
  • allofspaceandtimeallofspaceandtime ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2016
    edited due to it being responded to while I was typing lol
  • Zoknahal wrote: »
    Stricera wrote: »
    Spacecats wrote: »
    Stricera wrote: »
    " dedicated players " I've been playing just about nonstop everyday for 3 years. I hope I get a dragon

    I hope you do too. You're exactly the kind of player we want to make sure has an excellent shot at one.

    Will people like me still have to p2w for a higher chance or do we still have to do a ton of work for a small CHANCE of getting something we were cough promised cough at some point?

    I will be called "White Knight" for this, but you do not need to P2W for anything in TERA. You just gotta dedicate yourself to get something, and you will get it eventually. That or you can sell EMP and then use the gold to buy one from another player, if that can be called and remotely close to the actual definition of "Pay to Win".

    ill join you... Everytime EME does something, someone in forum say this.. this game its not P2W.. you dont need to have a dragon...you can do ALL the content WITHOUT a dragon....
    I think there is nothing in Tera that you NEED to buy with cash.. and yeah, of course they are doing it like this so they can earn money.. this is not a fking charity institution....

    I HATE them when they say they will release something and then just "nah, I dont care anymore".. i HATE the lack of communication, HATE the servers that keep laggin... EME and BH are bad in a lot of things... i do agree, but come on... they NEED to earn money.. they need to SELL stuff...

    and if the dragons are easy to get, why would anybody want one? Just like the damn Noble Moon.. cool mount... but now is more common than aids.. so nobody gives a [filtered] about it anymore... so yeah, i want dragons to be not that easy to get... so when i get one i will be happy as hell.. and not just another person with a damn moonmoon mount...
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