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eme/bhs does need to make money. I never had nor do I now have a problem with that. ever since I heard about flying dragons, ive been saving to buy one from the store, not lootboxes, and hopefully an account bound one. as far as the passives that they give and everyone calling it p2w, I don't care. I remember the first time I rode the kiator flying dragon to dragonfall years ago. I fell in love with it. I told my friends I wish they would have these as a mount. then when you could go from kaitor straight to velika, I would keep doing that so the new people coming in from iod would see me come up on it. it was so great seeing the dragon flying into velika. so I don't care if they have passives or not. I want to have that same experience and feeling everyday I play like I had back then.
Explain to me how does a x2 crit power buff that triggers randomly and only last 5 seconds can give you a superior edge over other players, specially in PvP, because mind yoiu, the term of P2W originated in PvP when other games tarted to sell actual gear or progression items in their shop, while in game you had to go through a endless and mindless grind for the same item.
I hardly doubt you will have the time to mount up and wait for the RNG buff to trigger to land your best attack. Is your party gonna wait for that to happen? Are you willing to throw away all the DPS you can do in the time you are waiting for your dragon buff to trigger? Does the Dragon gives you an unfair advantage over other players? Does the dragon is available exclusively to the shop, without the ability to be able to trade it in game? Have you asked yourself all of those questions before jumping into a biased definition of Pay to Win? I am sorry but to me, you just butthurt that you cannot get your dragon in game just yet while others spend the money (in my opinion bad spent) to get a confetty covered shiny dragon.
Some wallet warriors who play Game-X says their game is not Pay2win, because in comparison players from Game-Y can pay cash for power ups and gift boxes. Game-X doesn't sell power up and gift boxes. So they do not count as Pay2win like Game-Y, because they aren't as bad.
Other players who enjoy Game-Y retort back and think buying power up is okay, and is not as evil compared to Game-Z because they have an abusive real money auction house. Game-Z is the real Pay2win!
Then players from Game-Z insist their game isn't Pay2win because they claim their real money auction house has a balance limited supply, but Game-X cash store you can buy gear and speed ups as much as you want. Therefore they are Pay2win game.
It's basically the same shop but different packaging when it comes to free to play games/pay to win games. There's just varying degree to how much you can spend on certain advantages. I know that phase "pay to win" seems to be a dirty word that game companies will bend over backwards to distance themselves from that label because it will alienate users from their shops or even trying their games...and you want a guilt free shopping...er I mean gaming experience.
I'll take your questions one by one.
Q: Is your party gonna wait for that to happen? Are you willing to throw away all the DPS you can do in the time you are waiting for your dragon buff to trigger?
A: You do not need to mount for the buff to trigger. Just need to know the skill. It's like a VM proc.
Q: Does the Dragon gives you an unfair advantage over other players?
A: At the moment, it gives paying players (lucky paying players, mind you) an unfair advantage, yes.
Q: Does the dragon is available exclusively to the shop, without the ability to be able to trade it in game? Have you asked yourself all of those questions before jumping into a biased definition of Pay to Win? I am sorry but to me, you just butthurt that you cannot get your dragon in game just yet while others spend the money (in my opinion bad spent) to get a confetty covered shiny dragon.
A: It's available exclusively in the shop, but it's tradeable. Here's the thing though: Abysmal chance to get it from the box paired with the high EMP price of the boxes results in the dragons being ridiculously overpriced. You are expecting people to grind 500k (the lowest price of a dragon on my server) which takes a huge amount of time. This is understandable for things that don't give you an edge in-game, such as costumes. Grinding like mad is understandable for in-game things like VM gear. But having to grind 500k for an item that gives a buff skill while others can simply (with a little luck) buy it, is in fact, "pay to win"
Yeah check your inbox, thanks
[thick headed reinforcement for the stubborn peeps]
The only way a dragon makes it into the game is by loot box. Loot box is not a guarantee, p2w excuse fails. No direct store purchase gets you a dragon.
I totally agree with this, i've played tera since it became free to play and almost all of my friends would talk non-stop about how cool it would be if we got dragon mounts that flew. I've saved up enough emp to get an account bound one, but was pretty saddened to hear we wouldn't get account bound ones, NOW I have some hope we might, since i'm now a full time college student, I can't grind and play all the time like I used to...I still want a equal chance to get one for all the years I've waited patiently.
Thank you @Spacecats for keeping us updated, this stuff helps a lot and you're calming down the community and giving us some closer that Bluehole won't go pay to win on us like most games
i play from the beta
Not being salty but....
By reading it, basically this is what I understood..
> the dragons passive bug was just a hoax, they were never bugged
> the ghost and diamond dragon were meant to be implemented before to get full income possible (otherwise they'd be released as mounts, not just lootboxes with very low chance, costing a lot of money for such low chance), because you knew people will love the passive and the dragons, and such hype was perfect for money making...
> the iron and crimson dragons will still be milking machines because only 1% of people - the "dedicated players" (read "the choosen ones") will be able to get them so people will still be forced to buy them from store to keep them "exclusive" as in means of being "respectful" to the design...
Right?
Correct me if I am wrong...
I thought you've always believed in a balance between purchasable and earnable ways of getting stuff... that's not how it works..
I'm fine to farm it untill my fingers bleed, just bring it.
That's some contradicting mental gymnastics. Just because a pay2win feature is landry doesn't demise the fact it still is. If you bought a box of dragon steroids and there was a low% to get them to work or to actually contain steroids. It's still a box of dragon steroids. If you had deep pockets and just swipe your credit card repeatedly that low % chance just melts away. It's not a matter of skills but how much you spend at that point. Hence pay to win. Compound that with exclusive loot boxes in a shop, that's even further proves that point.
go play archeage and then come back and tell me again how u hate loot boxes and the gear upgrade system
and loot boxes are horrible