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Island of Dawn and Keening Dawn Motes.

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  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    WolfieYu wrote: »
    @counterpoint Definitely Not debatable Anyone would agree that finishing a Vanguard IOD Bam Task in less time is more rewarding. No one want's to spend 6hrs hunting bams on over 7 alts. The faster we get it done the better.

    IOD bams are the con of my day.

    I think you misunderstood. They get less rewards than we do, so they kill them quicker. Where as we get more rewards so we kill them slower. It also only takes ~15 minutes to finish all 3 higher tier bam vanguards with Slaughter and basic consumables like charms/scroll/nostrum. That means 1 hour is 4 characters making 7 characters less than 2 hours.

    Also, if you really kill BAMs slow, you can duo the quest with someone even if you're doing it legitimately and killing double, you'll probably still finish sooner than if you soloed.

    As for my personal opinion on the matter... I don't think there should be motes at all and the BAMs simply be re-balanced with them not as a possibility. Although, seeing as that most likely won't happen, I don't think they should be 100% for us. While yes, you will kill them faster, but the rewards will completely lose its value anyways and then the dailies become pointless to do.

    If you want effortless VGs, just do CW+KC.
  • The way it is now is fine. Otherwise it will be as mindless as TAR farming... And if u were to use unfavourable DPS class to farm, it's you finding trouble for yourself. Cos u gotta admit, classes like brawl and ninja solo them much faster. Just grab a few brawl and ninja alts and be done with it instead of whining...
  • mollyyamollyya ✭✭✭
    Giants, Firmbrisk should drop more keen motes because they are a pain to deal with.
  • HLK76PFWXTHLK76PFWXT ✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    In the NA region they reduced the minimum ilevel requirements for the vanguard requests so that you could kill harder-tier BAMs with a lower ilevel, and they also doubled the items and credits earned from the vanguard quests; as a result, the keening dawn motes were left as is. In EU, they did not change the ilevel requirements or the vanguard credits (at least they didn't at the time, unless they made another change more recently), but instead increased the drop rate for keening dawn motes so it would go faster. Given that vanguards are capped per character per day, I would say that keeping the double credits is preferable, but I guess it's debatable.

    This is actually the reason as of why i started this thread: the items and credits had a certain price when the double bonus happened some four months ago and it was just fine but right now the market value dropped so much that the items and credits are at "half" the value compared to when they got doubled so in other words they are actually not doubled anymore. Is it understandable? They are doubled but they have half the value so they are actually normal.

    Now, is it fine to use this argument anymore with the items and credits being doubled even if their value dropped so much to have the keening dawn mote at 1/9 rate? Right now, we have to either improve the value of the vanguard quests or make the keening dawn mote drop a bit more often ( 100% drop rate is too broken but then again 10% is not nice either so what about 25% drop rate for the mote ).

  • i personally like how the mote drop rate is now... I see it like a gift...if you get lucky you can speed up ur run... but you should not count on them...
    25% seems kinda high... with only 1 mote you can kill AT LEAST 4 mobs... if u increase the drop rate to 25%, you will probably get another another mote... 4 mobs more... another mote.....
  • feazesherofeazeshero ✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    Sometimes it's like so RNG when I farm on my lancer and takes me around 10-12 minutes to do the hydra, giant and naga depending on keen emote and bams' closeness. There are days where the keen emote drops only after I finish the 10th bam of that respective quest lol and I'm like oh really now you give me keen emote. This has occurred to me a few times, which I find odd but rng is rng.

    The mid tier bams like fimberlisk, rock bam and the one eyed one, usually they drop keen a bit more than the high tiered ones; at least that's what I noticed.

    Yesterday I had keen emotes dropping 4 or 5 times in each high tier bam quest, which was really rare I guess. It can be so random at times.

    (Full adrenaline rush + Guardian Shout + keen emote + full 10 stacks = kill bam in 3 seconds :open_mouth: )
  • feazeshero wrote: »
    bams' closeness
    THIS... this is more annoying than NOT having motes.
    they are all so damn far from each other... ):
  • feazeshero wrote: »
    bams' closeness
    THIS... this is more annoying than NOT having motes.
    they are all so [filtered] far from each other... ):

    I know how you feel lol. That moment when I want to make use of keen emote and realize the next bam is so far away.
  • PixelatorPixelator ✭✭✭✭
    feazeshero wrote: »
    feazeshero wrote: »
    bams' closeness
    THIS... this is more annoying than NOT having motes.
    they are all so [filtered] far from each other... ):

    I know how you feel lol. That moment when I want to make use of keen emote and realize the next bam is so far away.
    You can thank the incompetents who get them stuck in cliffs.
  • 100% drop rate please. Just look at EU, you can kill high+mid tier in less 30 mins with any alt using DN weapon. They reduced ilvl like us too, long ago.

    I can only do bam on alt with imp+15. Anything else is torture.
  • VirtualON wrote: »
    100% drop rate please. Just look at EU, you can kill high+mid tier in less 30 mins with any alt using DN weapon. They reduced ilvl like us too, long ago.

    I can only do bam on alt with imp+15. Anything else is torture.

    you're doing it wrong
  • DesuBeanDesuBean ✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    I would prefer a 33.3% drop rate chance, that seems nice.
  • VirtualONVirtualON ✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    @BusinessCat How are you doing it correctly? Show me your DN priest killing every high-tiered BAm in 20s.
  • VirtualON wrote: »
    @BusinessCat How are you doing it correctly? Show me your DN priest killing every high-tiered BAm in 20s.

    if you're doing it with DN priest, you are already doing it wrong lol
  • Some classes in DN can kill it faster than others in Slaug, this shouldn't be a secret for some people here, classes that have lots of crit glyphs like Brawler and Ninja have a big advantage. My Brawler still on Lucid +12 and can kill some T3 bams in like 40 - 50 seconds.
    I don't mind if EME nerf the crit power from the motes and increase the drop rates, but we certainly need a better drop rate or a better balance between the classes.
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